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Obama panel warns: Swine Flu may kill 90,000

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  1. MetalHead

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    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a8_2nrwYD1kM

    Swine Flu May Cause 90,000 U.S. Deaths, Report Says (Update2)




    By Tom Randall and Alex Nussbaum
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    Aug. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Swine flu may infect half the U.S. population this year, hospitalize 1.8 million patients and lead to as many as 90,000 deaths, more than twice the number killed in a typical seasonal flu, White House advisers said.
    In a report by the President’s Council of Advisers on Science and Technology, President Barack Obama today was urged to speed vaccine production and name a senior member of the White House staff, preferably the homeland security adviser, to take responsibility for decision-making on the pandemic. Initial doses should be accelerated to mid-September to vaccinate as many as 40 million people, the advisory group said.
    Seasonal flu usually kills about 36,000 Americans, said Tom Skinner, a spokesman for the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Swine flu, also called H1N1, causes more severe illness needing hospitalization among younger people than seasonal flu, while leaving people 65 and older relatively unscathed, said Mike Shaw of the CDC.
    “This isn’t the flu that we’re used to,” said Kathleen Sebelius, U.S. Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services. “The 2009 H1N1 virus will cause a more serious threat this fall. We won’t know until we’re in the middle of the flu season how serious the threat is, but because it’s a new strain, it’s likely to infect more people than usual.”
    Data from clinical trials to assess the safety and effectiveness of swine flu vaccines will start to become available in mid-September, health officials reported Aug. 21. Full results from the two-dose trials won’t be available until mid October.
    Mid-October Vaccine
    “We are making every preparation effort assuming a safe and effective vaccine will be available in mid-October,” Sebelius said today at the CDC’s Atlanta offices.
    According to what the advisory report describes as a “plausible scenario,” 30 percent to 50 percent of the country’s population will be infected in the fall and winter. As many as 300,000 patients may be treated in hospital intensive care units, filling 50 percent to 100 percent of the available beds, and 30,000 to 90,000 people may die, the report said.
    Peter Gross, chief medical officer at Hackensack University Medical Center in New Jersey, said if the group’s scenario comes true, “I think every hospital in America is going to be in a crunch. We’ll be hard pressed to deal with those predictions,” he said.
    Predictions ‘Overblown’
    The predictions seem “overblown,” Gross said, given that swine-flu outbreaks in 1968 and 1957 failed to cause as many deaths, even with medical technology and disease surveillance less advanced than today.
    “Influenza, you can make all the predictions you want, but it’s more difficult than predicting the weather,” Gross said in a telephone interview today, after the advisory report was made public. “If influenza was a stock, I wouldn’t touch it.”
    The 775-bed hospital is planning for an outbreak, upping its order of flu medications and discussing where to put patients if the worst occurs, Gross said.
    The President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology is chaired by John Holdren, the director of the White House Office of Science and Technology, Eric Lander, the head of the Broad Institute of Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and Harold Varmus, the chief executive officer of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York.
    The 21-member group of scientists and engineers, created by Congress in 1976, advises the president on policy involving scientific matters.
    Four Months
    H1N1 has already reached more than 170 countries and territories in the four months since being identified, the Geneva-based World Health Organization said. Swine flu causes similar symptoms as seasonal strains. It has so far resulted in worse than normal flu seasons, with increased hospitalizations and cases of severe illness, the WHO said in an Aug. 12 release.
    The median age of those with the pandemic virus has been 12 to 17 years, the WHO said on July 24, citing data from Canada, Chile, Japan, U.K. and the U.S.
    “People who get infected with this strain happen to be the healthiest members of our society,” said Shaw, associate director of laboratory science at the CDC’s flu division, in a presentation today, also at the agency’s offices.
    The H1N1 strain is genetically related to the 1918 Spanish Flu strain that killed an estimated 50 million people. Variations of the Spanish Flu strain circulated widely until around 1957, when they were pushed aside by other flu strains. People whose first exposure to a flu virus was one of those Spanish Flu relatives may have greater immunity to the current pandemic, Shaw said.
    To contact the reporters on this story: Tom Randall in New York at trandall6@bloomberg.net;
    Last Updated: August 24, 2009 16:38 EDT


    I thought it was only the Bush administration that engaged in fear mongering.
    90,000 US deaths???
    :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

    FEAR!!!!!!!
  2. jrumann59

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    That number while large is only double that of regular flu. The only people that really have to worry are the young, elderly and anyone else that has a weak immune system. 99% of Americans have nothing to worry about. I feel this administrations harping on a "deadlier" flu is nothing more than fear mongering with hope of pushing Obamacare through. I talked to my doctor about the vaccines and he told me I wouldn't need it and if the gov't mandated everyone to get one I would be on the bottom since I only get sick once a year.
  3. MetalHead

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    I see you have your eye on the ball.
  4. TheRat

    TheRat The Silly Willy

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    Obama's death panel?
  5. Temo

    Temo Active Member

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    We all know it's to cover up the planned mass killings of conservatives.
  6. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    Possible but I found it curious that at the height of the supposed pandemic and then fall to last page news Obamacare was in its infancy then 4 weeks later the CDC started making the claims that this years flu season will be rife with the swine flu and then low and behold Obamacare started polluting the air waves.
  7. Kangaroo

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    I never get the flu shot and I only had it once in my entire life

    Funny in a 3 week stretch my son got the flu, my daughter got the flu right after my wife got strep throat and me I kept on trucking even thow I was exposed to that stuff everyday for 3 weeks.

    I mean I have had the flu once in 37 years

    I have one main thing I battle with and it is sporadic and that is Migraine headaches
  8. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    I get the flu once a year it lasts for a day and my wife then gets it and it takes her out for 3 days and she gets the flu shot every year.
  9. CowboyMcCoy

    CowboyMcCoy Business is a Boomin

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    Shoot, I'm going to invest in whichever company makes the vaccine.
  10. DaBoys4Life

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    oh noes scare tactics 101.
  11. Hoofbite

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    What if it does?

    If that swine takes off, it could get ugly quick.

    I haven't gotten a flu shot in years but am considering it this year.
  12. daschoo

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    doesn't sound much like scare tactics to me. i'm surprised the projections are so low to be honest. over here we're being told that 65,000 may die of it.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8159488.stm
    of course it may very well be and hopefully is that that is also scaremongering but sureley obama is fairly poor at scaremongering if he is stating roughly one in every 3400 will die while the country he is being accused of basing his health care reform on is projecting 1 in every 685

    edit: those figures may not be 100% as i got the populations from wikipedia but they will be accurate enough that the point i've made is correct.
  13. BigWillie

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    Australia is suffering through their own flu season right now and swine flu is showing a weakened state as their flu season goes on. In places like Victoria they are even showing an extreme downturn in the number of infections.
  14. StanleySpadowski

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    For all the liberal bashing of "big" drug companies and ObamaCare backers blaming those companies for out of control health care costs, I think it's only fair that those people are the last ones in line to get the vaccine being produced by the Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline's of the world.
  15. Hoofbite

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    So because people are unhappy with getting bent over in one way, they should be bent over in another to even things out?

    Good idea!
  16. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    If you are not with us, you are against us?:D
  17. JBond

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_swine_flu_outbreak

    The 1976 swine flu outbreak, also known as the swine flu fiasco, or the swine flu debacle, was a strain of H1N1 influenza virus that appeared in 1976. Infections were only detected from January 19 to February 9, and were not found outside Fort Dix.[1] The outbreak is most remembered for the mass immunization that it prompted in the United States. The strain itself killed one person and hospitalized 13. However, side-effects from the vaccine caused 25 deaths.

    On February 15, 1976, an army recruit at Fort Dix said he felt tired and weak. He died the next day and four of his fellow soldiers were later hospitalized. Two weeks after his death, health officials announced that swine flu was the cause of death and that this strain of flu appeared to be closely related to the strain involved in the 1918 flu pandemic. Alarmed public-health officials decided that action must be taken to head off another major pandemic, and they urged President Gerald Ford that every person in the U.S. be vaccinated for the disease. The vaccination program was plagued by delays and public relations problems, but about 24% of the population had been vaccinated by the time the program was canceled. Only one person, the Fort Dix army recruit, died from the flu.[2]

    There were reports of Guillain-Barré syndrome, a paralyzing neuromuscular disorder, affecting some people who had received swine flu immunizations. This syndrome is a rare side-effect of modern influenza vaccines, with an incidence of about one case per million vaccinations.[3] As a result, Di Justo writes that "the public refused to trust a government-operated health program that killed old people and crippled young people." In total, less than 33 percent of the population had been immunized by the end of 1976. The National Influenza Immunization Program was effectively halted on December 16.

    Overall, about 500 cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), resulting in death from severe pulmonary complications for 25 people, were probably caused by an immunopathological reaction to the 1976 vaccine. Other influenza vaccines have not been linked to Guillain-Barré syndrome, though caution is advised for certain individuals, particularly those with a history of GBS.[4][5]
  18. TheCount

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    lol, did you just say "possible" to the idea that it's a cover up for the mass extermination of conservatives?
  19. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    :laugh2:
  20. burmafrd

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    Not worried. Unlike libs we conservatives are way too smart to just line up and be exterminated. Plus we have most of the guns, too.

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