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Obamas approval rating below Bush 2001

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  1. ajk23az

    ajk23az Through Pain Comes Clarity

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    Obama's Poll Numbers Are Falling to Earth

    By DOUGLAS E. SCHOEN and SCOTT RASMUSSEN

    It is simply wrong for commentators to continue to focus on President Barack Obama's high levels of popularity, and to conclude that these are indicative of high levels of public confidence in the work of his administration. Indeed, a detailed look at recent survey data shows that the opposite is most likely true. The American people are coming to express increasingly significant doubts about his initiatives, and most likely support a different agenda and different policies from those that the Obama administration has advanced.

    Polling data show that Mr. Obama's approval rating is dropping and is below where George W. Bush was in an analogous period in 2001. Rasmussen Reports data shows that Mr. Obama's net presidential approval rating -- which is calculated by subtracting the number who strongly disapprove from the number who strongly approve -- is just six, his lowest rating to date.


    Overall, Rasmussen Reports shows a 56%-43% approval, with a third strongly disapproving of the president's performance. This is a substantial degree of polarization so early in the administration. Mr. Obama has lost virtually all of his Republican support and a good part of his Independent support, and the trend is decidedly negative.

    A detailed examination of presidential popularity after 50 days on the job similarly demonstrates a substantial drop in presidential approval relative to other elected presidents in the 20th and 21st centuries. The reason for this decline most likely has to do with doubts about the administration's policies and their impact on peoples' lives.

    There is also a clear sense in the polling that taxes will increase for all Americans because of the stimulus, notwithstanding what the president has said about taxes going down for 95% of Americans. Close to three-quarters expect that government spending will grow under this administration.

    Recent Gallup data echo these concerns. That polling shows that there are deep-seeded, underlying economic concerns. Eighty-three percent say they are worried that the steps Mr. Obama is taking to fix the economy may not work and the economy will get worse. Eighty-two percent say they are worried about the amount of money being added to the deficit. Seventy-eight percent are worried about inflation growing, and 69% say they are worried about the increasing role of the government in the U.S. economy.

    When Gallup asked whether we should be spending more or less in the economic stimulus, by close to 3-to-1 margin voters said it is better to have spent less than to have spent more. When asked whether we are adding too much to the deficit or spending too little to improve the economy, by close to a 3-to-2 margin voters said that we are adding too much to the deficit.

    Support for the stimulus package is dropping from narrow majority support to below that. There is no sense that the stimulus package itself will work quickly, and according to a recent Wall Street Journal/NBC poll, close to 60% said it would make only a marginal difference in the next two to four years. Rasmussen data shows that people now actually oppose Mr. Obama's budget, 46% to 41%. Three-quarters take this position because it will lead to too much spending. And by 2-to-1, voters reject House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's call for a second stimulus package.

    While over two-thirds support the plan to help homeowners refinance their mortgage, a 48%-36% plurality said that it will unfairly benefit those who have been irresponsible, echoing Rick Santelli's call to arms on CNBC.

    And although a narrow majority remains confident in Mr. Obama's goals and overall direction, 45% say they do not have confidence, a number that has been growing since the inauguration less than two months ago. With three-quarters saying that they expect the economy to get worse, it is hard to see these numbers improving substantially.

    There is no real appetite for increasing taxes to pay for an expanded health-insurance program. Less than half would support such an idea, which is 17% less than the percentage that supported government health insurance when Bill Clinton first considered it in March of 1993.

    While voters blame Republicans for the lack of bipartisanship in Washington, the fact is that they do not believe Mr. Obama has made any progress in improving the impulse towards cooperation between the two parties. Further, nearly half of voters say that politics in Washington will be more partisan over the next year.

    Fifty-six percent of Americans oppose giving bankers any additional government money or any guarantees backed by the government. Two-thirds say Wall Street will benefit more than the average taxpayer from the new bank bailout plan. This represents a jump in opposition to the first plan passed last October. At that time, 45% opposed the bailout and 30% supported it. Now a solid majority opposes the bank bailout, and 20% think it was a good idea. A majority believes that Mr. Obama will not be able to cut the deficit in half by the end of his term.

    Only less than a quarter of Americans believe that the federal government truly reflects the will of the people. Almost half disagree with the idea that no one can earn a living or live "an American life" without protection and empowerment by the government, while only one-third agree.

    Despite the economic stimulus that Congress just passed and the budget and financial and mortgage bailouts that Congress is now debating, just 19% of voters believe that Congress has passed any significant legislation to improve their lives. While Congress's approval has increased, it still stands at only 18%. Over two-thirds of voters believe members of Congress are more interested in helping their own careers than in helping the American people. When it comes to the nation's economic issues, two-thirds of voters have more confidence in their own judgment than they do in the average member of Congress.

    Finally, what probably accounts for a good measure of the confidence and support the Obama administration has enjoyed is the fact that they are not Republicans. Virtually all Americans, more than eight in 10, blame Republicans for the current economic woes, and the only two leaders with lower approval ratings than Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are Republican leaders Mitch McConnell and John Boehner.

    All of this is not just a subject for pollsters and analysts to debate. It shows fundamentally that public confidence in government remains low and is slipping. We face the possibility of substantial gridlock along with an absolute absence of public confidence that could come to mirror the lack of confidence in the American economy that the Dow and the S&P are currently showing.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123690358175013837.html
  2. Angus

    Angus Active Member

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    Buyer's remorse is everywhere!

    :(
  3. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    Obama is going to be responsible for the biggest kool aid hang over ever, and I didn't think that was possible.
  4. sbark

    sbark Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    ....old enough to remember America’s euphoria at escaping from Jimmy Carter in 1980....... I get the feeling that by 2012, voters will be trying to remember how Obama got elected at all........

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    The Founders Wanted Presidents to Fail if They Deserved To!
    They designed a system of checks and balances with separation of powers. They gave us a president with two coequal branches of government, not a king---Rush
    ......funny how china might end up being a check/balance....
  5. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    I knew popularity would wear off

    no more "yes we can" chants to rally the masses
  6. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Gallup has Obama at 62% favorable today.


    What is interesting from the article is that while Obama's approval numbers have fallen back to Earth, the people have not turned to the Republicans. In fact, the article states that 80% of Americans blame the Republicans for the mess we are in.


    It appears that the Americans that have lost faith in Obama are not turning to the Republicans, they are just losing faith altogether in Government.

    This does not equate to Republican votes in the next election, most of these people will just stay home and not vote if they have lost faith in Obama but still blame the Republicans for the mess.
  7. sbark

    sbark Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    agree to some degree: Its like when the GOP is in there, they fully expect some control and responsibility in govt in a mature format.....

    it did not happen under GW and non-Newt Congress the last 8 yrs

    .....but when Democrats are in there.....they fully accept the vagrants have control, they expect that stupid things will happen and be said and done.

    .......but what they have underestimated this time, vrs. the past---is that the Frat boys have control of all 3 branches......FOOOODDD Fight !!!
  8. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Of course they do. One, they hate Bush and always have. The truth of the matter is that had they supported him, we would not have the mess we have today with the Democratic majority so strong that nothing can be done to kill bad legislater. Two, every day we hear that Obama inherrited this huge problem, which is really not the case. Yes, he inherrited a down ward economic trend but he made it much worse by spending us poor and killing the market. Three, the large majority of the people voted for this guy. Now, they are faced with the facts that they have to dance to the music. Nobody wants to admit they are wrong so they will blame those of us who did not vote for him. Pretty typical stuff down through history and let me just say that bad things do result from it. It's time for people to start realizing what's going on and take personal responsability for it. The Conservative Party should take it's share of the blame and I think we are. However, those of you who voted for this can't skate. You put him in and now we all will have to make the best of it.
  9. CowboyWay

    CowboyWay If Coach would have put me in, we'd a won State

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    Its funny to see how people are saying Obama is falling back to earth. And while that might happen in time, to compare it to Bush in 2001 is ridiculous.

    Bush's ratings were through the roof after sept 11, 2001. Everyone stood behind him as he went on the offensive in Afghanistan.

    Also, Obama took office in the middle of the worst recession since....well, since Bush senior left office (shocker). Obama has been forced to make some really nasty decisions spending a TON of money in the process.

    So now his numbers dip, and people are comparing it to Bush II in late 2001??

    Ridiculous.

    Now please, carry on.....
  10. Viper

    Viper Active Member

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    You do understand that March 2001 is BEFORE Sept 2001, right?:D
  11. adamc91115

    adamc91115 New Member

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    Bush was elected in a disputed election, he was already not very popular. Also, March is before September, and its not considered late in the year.

    Its not a good sign for Obama considering how overwhelmingly popular he was just 2 months ago.
  12. CowboyWay

    CowboyWay If Coach would have put me in, we'd a won State

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    I think the writer of this piece is using the term "analogous" very loosely. I would much rather him be more specific about the timetable of Bush's rankings.

    Even if I'm wrong about the date, my second point is still valid. If it was an analogous period of time for Bush and Obama, Bush took over after Clinton, and lets be honest here, times were pretty good. Just coming out of the booming 90's, people had no reason to be upset with thier President.

    Contrast that to when Obama took over, and the state of this country is in the crapper. Obama has to spend a ton and make some decisions that simply won't please alot of people. No wonder his approval rating is lower than Bush's. Bush was in Crawford enjoying the high life that Clinton set up for him.
  13. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    The country was in a recession when Bush came into office as well. It was not all Boston Cream Pie and hot and cold running chocolate.
  14. CowboyWay

    CowboyWay If Coach would have put me in, we'd a won State

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    You can't seriously compare the two. If what we're in now could just be called a "recession", I'd be dancing in the streets naked.

    Apples and Oranges.
  15. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    If anybody is taking responsibility for anything, I missed it.
  16. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Perhaps the differentiator here is that Former President Bush did not spend 1.5 Trillion Dollars on specail interest projects.

    Their is no doubt that President Obama has deepened this recession with all the money he has spent on things not central to helping our economy improve in the short term.
  17. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Not surprising. I find this to be the case much of the time when a person doesn't want to see what is in front of them.
  18. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Good points, I think the 2010 midterms will really be a good barometer on what Americans think of Obama and the job he is doing.

    If Dems gain seats in Congress, I think this is a sign that most Americans approve of his performance and the direction he is taking the country.

    However, if the Republicans can take seats away from the Dems and shrink the majorities the Dems now enjoy, it will be a very telling sign that most Americans do not like the direction Obama is taking the country.


    2010 midterms will be very interesting.
  19. CowboyWay

    CowboyWay If Coach would have put me in, we'd a won State

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    I think this is a little premature ABQ. How many weeks has it been? This type of spending frightens me too, but to declare the recession "deepened", just a few weeks in, isn't fair at all.
  20. sbark

    sbark Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    and yet the CBO, under the thumb of Democrat Congress since 2006, flately stated we would be comeing out from this recession by the end of 2009 if the govt just did nothing.........

    really, then no worse than the Clinton recession that GW inherited...

    recessions are a natural phenon: they bring bad business decisions to light and give better mngr's the opportunity to take over the bad wood.

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