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Offensive lineman rankings...

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by MichaelWinicki, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    They've come a long way. And I've been a subscriber for years. Their raw statistics are fantastic. But their formulas (and their purely subjective stats) are almost worthless.
  2. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    They are garbage.

    Who cares if there's another rating system? It doesn't validate their ratings.

    Why do you need one anyway? You can't tell if a guy can play by watching the games?
  3. tomson75

    tomson75 Brain Dead Shill

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    :laugh2:
  4. Bluestang

    Bluestang Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, the raw data they collect is great.
  5. Doomsay

    Doomsay Well-Known Member

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    I see that you posted the pass blocking efficiency (22nd), does PFF rank the run blocking efficiency? Just interested in the differential.
  6. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Gotcha.

    No, they don't, but doesn't the NFL do some of that on their site?
  7. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Why is the guys that complain the most about PFF never have anything they can offer as an alternative?
  8. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    I need to create meaningless OL rankings in order to tell you their rankings are worthless?

    Again, why do you need them? Do you actually believe Doug Free is the 60th best tackle because they just said so? Can't you tell Free isn't good enough on your own? You base your opinions on players off of a stat compilation website?
  9. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    I can tell Free isn't having a good season.

    But compare Free with:

    Wayne Hunter or Erik Pears or Breno Giacomini or Tyler Polumbus.

    How does he compare and why?
  10. dwmyers

    dwmyers Well-Known Member

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    Free is bad because his first four games were bad.
    Smith is bad because his first two games were bad.
    Bern's first four games were much worse than his later ones.
    Nate Living's worst game was in the third week of the season.

    See a pattern developing here?

    Ryan Cook had one bad game, week 8, otherwise has been ordinary.

    There is *distinct improvement* in the PFF ratings over time.

    Is it possible that our "awful" offensive line is being slowly coached up?

    D-
  11. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

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    That's like saying I used the same scale to measure every player's weight. It might be consistent but if it says that Montrae Holland weighs 54 lbs every time he hops on, it does not accurately reflect reality.
  12. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Who cares? He's not good enough here. Next.
  13. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    No. They looked just as bad to me against the Eagles as they did against the Seahawks.
  14. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    Why do fans feel the need to compare players? Free is hurt this team this year. He is not playing well and the offense is hurting because of it. I don't care about any rankings. I care about the fact that he is not doing his job. He could be ranked as the best in the league, but his play is hurting the team. I don't care about other players, or the comparisons made to Cowboy players. I only care about his contributions to forming a winning team.
  15. Bluestang

    Bluestang Well-Known Member

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    I thought Smith had his worse game of the year.

    He had trouble handling Trent Cole all night.
  16. TheSport78

    TheSport78 The Excellence of Execution

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    You gotta check your math.
  17. Sarge

    Sarge Red, White and Brew... Staff Member

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    Exactly. It's as if we're suppose to be happy because Free isn't the worst tackle in the league. Makes no sense whatsoever.
  18. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    that doug free contract has to be one of jerry jones' worst.
  19. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    I don't think there's a post here that says anyone is happy with Free's season Sarge.
  20. Dallas4ever

    Dallas4ever Active Member

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    I'm not sure that I can recall seeing a guy get driven backwards as often as Free does. As far as expectation, he's clearly the biggest disappointment on the line.

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