Oklahoma State WR coach Gunter Brewer feels wr Bryant has 'Moss type talent' Hmm!

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  1. cowboyjoe

    cowboyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Oklahoma State WR coach Gunter Brewer feels receiver Bryant has 'Moss type talent'
    March 24th, 2010 By Special to DraftNasty
    Three years ago, I called up an old coach of mine from Marshall University that was coaching at Oklahoma State as the wide receivers coach. I called to ask Gunter Brewer about a kid from my hometown named Adurius Bowman, who a number of people considered the best wide receiver in college football. Coach Brewer told me that Adurius Bowman was one hell of a player, but he kept talking about this freshman named Dez Bryant that he said had 'Randy Moss-type ability'. I must tell you that Coach Brewer was Randy’s position coach at Marshall and got an up close look at the Super Freak everyday.

    Fast forward to 2010, and I call up Coach Brewer. Like always he says, "Timmy Martin, what's going on?" I said, "Coach Brewer, how good is this kid Dez Bryant?" I couldn't believe what I heard come out of Coach Brewer's mouth.

    Coach Brewer said, "Timmy, he's better than Moss. I never thought I would see someone that could track the ball better than Randy when it's in the air, but this kid can. He's fearless on the football field and doesn't mind one bit to roam the middle of the field.

    Dez is a very smart football player and loves to watch film and learn about the game. He has a very high football IQ and picks up the game very easy.

    Coach what are your thoughts on his football future?

    I believe in the correct situation, at the next level, you could see the 'Super Freak 2'.

    -DraftNasty insider Tim Martin reporting

    While a receiver at Marshall
    During the 1995 season, QB Chad Pennington threw for nearly 2,500 yards and 15 touchdowns. With the transfer of Florida transfer Eric Kresser to the school in 1996, Pennington was able to recoup the redshirt season he had lost in the prior year and sit out the campaign.

    In 1996, Kresser went on to establish an incredible rapport with several Marshall wideouts. Two of those receivers had particularly impressive seasons. Redshirt freshman Randy Moss caught an incredible 28 touchdowns, including four in the national championship game. Tim Martin added 868 yards and five touchdowns. The pair recorded 78 and 74 receptions, respectively.

    Martin, who led the team in punt returns four straight seasons, set a Thundering Herd record with 49 returns during the national championship run.

    Pennington returned to action in 1997 and eventually posted 35 wins to only four losses as the team's starting QB. He won two Motor City bowls, three MAC titles and led the team to three straight bowl appearances from 1997-99.

    Tim Martin, a former standout wide receiver at Marshall University, won two national championships during his career with the Thundering Herd during the early to mid nineties. Martin went on to sign with the Detroit Lions in 1997. He also knows what it takes to be successful as an NFL athlete. Martin has been the Assistant Strength & Conditioning coach at the University of Wyoming (1999) and the Head Football Strength & Conditioning coach at UT-Chattanooga (2001)...

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  2. SDogo

    SDogo Not as good as I once was but as good once as I ev

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    If Moss played like Roy Williams.

    Seriously, how can you not watch Dez and see Roy Williams?
  3. Cover 2

    Cover 2 Pessimists Unite!!!

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    How many games did you watch of Dez? He was an electrifying player. He's better than Okung who will go ahead of him. Also I hear people saying he's going to run a 4.55. Well every time I watched him play he looked like a 4.4 flat guy to me.
  4. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    Are yo sure that he said that he loved studying the game because according to everyone here hes just late to meeting and practice.
  5. SDogo

    SDogo Not as good as I once was but as good once as I ev

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    A lot, I see a player that takes a while to get going, runs lazy routes and has hands that fail him at times when he actually uses them and not his body to trap the ball.

    Sorry, I dont see any resemblance to Moss but not everyone is going to see the same thing.
  6. Cover 2

    Cover 2 Pessimists Unite!!!

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    No problem. I've been wrong before about prospects, and I'll be wrong again.

    He reminds me a little of Dave Boston before his body started breaking down. But because he's not on the roids I think he'll have a much more productive career.
  7. SDogo

    SDogo Not as good as I once was but as good once as I ev

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    Preaching to the choir brother. lol
  8. DFWJC

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    We seem to agree a lot on draft related stuff...but not here.

    I think Dez Bryant will be a multiple Pro Bowl receiver. He's very good. He's still not Moss.

    That does mean I'm 100% on board with us taking him....but in the end, I would pull the trigger if he was there at 27 (which he will not be).
  9. SDogo

    SDogo Not as good as I once was but as good once as I ev

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    If it makes you feel better I believe Jerry also agrees with you and would pull the trigger at 27 (if Iupati and ET is gone)
  10. SLATEmosphere

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    Ya, I don't see the Moss comparison.

    Moss is 6"4 with elite get up speed.

    I think Dez is more like a Boldin type player.
  11. DFWJC

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    I'm not sure it does make me feel any better...that's the problem. I'd prefer to not use our 1st pick on a WR this year, but he would be awfully hard to pass up value-wise.
  12. speedkilz88

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    Moss is 6-4 and runs like a deer. I don't see that player from what I've seen. Doesn't mean he won't be great, he just isn't another Moss imo. If the Cowboys think he is though, they better take him.
  13. ThreeSportStar80

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    I don't see the comparison myself.... Moss was a James Lofton type of player with elite speed coming out of college. Bryant is a T.O. type of receiver very big and explosive after the catch.
  14. cowboyjoe

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    i just posted what the article said Fuzzy, the coach and the writer said that, I didnt.

    I do know he is very elite when he wants to be and cant be stopped when dez puts him mind to it.

    Yet, like another article i posted, no other NFL Team has scheduled a private workout with him except for the cowboys, why?

    And need I remind you, I would love to root for this kid since he is from my hometown Lufkin, but more than one gm and scout has said, you will have to hold his hand at meetings, practices and away from the game. I didnt say that they did.

    And why wasnt dez ready to run at the combine, he had from last week of september to february to be ready. Just look at article by mickey spagnola.

    We just have to be sure and hit on this first round draft choice or if we trade down some to get some extra picks and load up in 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds because after the 23rd pick in first round, thats where the meat of this draft is from the 2nd round to the top of 5th round.
  15. CanuckCowboysFan

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    You guys are mis understanding the article. I don't think he's comparing him to moss, either then the fact that they both go up and attack the ball or w.e way he put it, he just thinks he's a better pro and is a better college prospect. Not once did he compare there speed and overall skill set. When he says 'super freak two' I think he means he has the skill set to match what moss has done, not that they play the same way.
  16. Dough Boy

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    I agree, and read the article the same way. Ball skills is what the coach was referring to in my opinion. The WR with the best ball skills today is Fitz in Zona. Is Fitz as fast as Moss? Nope. Does Fitz have the ball skills of Moss? Yup and maybe even better. The question, will Bryant have similar ball skills. His position coach thinks so.

    We all get caught up on WR timed speed. I will point out two facts, Irvin and Rice to not break any stop watches while being timed, but both had great ball skills and a hughe desire to win. An even greater desire to not fail. Will, Bryant bring that to the table? If so, he has the right mix.
  17. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    Bryant is a steal at 27 talent wise. Only people in the know can tell you if he's going to be a head case or not.
  18. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    Yeah he is a faster Boldin. Kinda like TO. Doesn't do much leaping on the football field.

    He has a lot of upside but if he weren't a headcase he wouldn't make it out of the top 10.

    I won't cry if we get him but with what is already in place here I would wait until the 3rd round. There will be a ton of value @ receiver in the 3rd.
  19. CanuckCowboysFan

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    I agree, about the Fitz thing. And think the same about the timed speeds. Arguably three of the best WR's in the NFL ran 4.6 and over. Welker, Fitz, and Boldin ran a 4.7and that didn't stop him from tearing up the league, and same with the otheer two. Not to mention the great ones like Irvin and Rice. That didn't stop Fitz from getting drafted high, and the same with Boldin. If a team passes on Dez just because he ran a 4.55-4.6, there stupid.

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I agree with this. No question in my mind that Bryant is by far the best player on the board at 27 if he were there, talent wise. What's going on in his head is always a bit of a gamble, with any player. Heck, what was going on in my head when I was that age was often a mystery to me so I don't know how anybody can be sure of what's going on in these kids heads.

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