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Opinion Zone

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Mike 1967, Sep 16, 2005.

  1. Mike 1967

    Mike 1967 New Member

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    So what is up with this Opinion Zone thing lately ?

    I had two threads moved there and I'm trying to figure out why.

    Why aren't half of the threads currently listed on the Main Board considered "Opinion Threads" ?

    Any thread that does not simply share a Press Article is an "Opinion". And if you want to get right down to it 95% of the press articles are Opinions !

    This smacks of Mod Favoritism.
  2. Seven

    Seven Messenger to the football Gods

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    Yep. I placed an apology to another poster for me being an idiot on The Zone via a thread and they shelved me in seconds. I had asked in the thread if they would keep it on The Zone just for awhile. Another poster, several months later, does the same thing and it's left on "the zone" for hours. Sometimes I have to wonder.
  3. Rack Bauer

    Rack Bauer Federal Agent

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    I can't speak for the mods here, but I do know that mods don't catch everything right away. They're human beings, not machines. Sometimes they miss stuff.
  4. Mkyle

    Mkyle Benched

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    Mike, let me fill you in on something, OK?

    "You are not supposed to question what the Mods do in public"! That what was sent to me!

    Wait till your post just "vanishs" into thin air...never to be seen again! Or, better yet, wait till a post of yours get, ummm, "modified"!

    It takes a Village...or does it? :confused:

    one thousand one, one thousand two, one thousand three, one thousand four...(till this post is gone)...
  5. Mike 1967

    Mike 1967 New Member

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    I understand

    But I started two threads yesterday...and both were moved.

    Coincidence
  6. Nors

    Nors Benched

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    Its an effort to move "lively" threads to the pasture. Kinda subjective but after a day its try and find Waldo - it gets moved somewhere.

    I understand fully what the intention is - I personally don't like it but hay. Thats the way it is now. So be it.
  7. Mkyle

    Mkyle Benched

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    It would be cool if the Mods would at least let the orginal poster know what went down!

    "I deleted it">
    "I moved it">

    Nope! Thin air...gone, never to be seen again...Oh, well, poo-poo happens....

    :confused:
  8. CrazyCowboy

    CrazyCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Don't feel bad......same thing happen to me.......the Mod's are just doing their job and keeping this board professional.......and you got to admit......it is THE BEST!
  9. blindzebra

    blindzebra Well-Known Member

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    This was all explained when it started happening.

    The forum has a lot of volume, and many posters use the Zone for getting news.

    So by keeping the main forum clear of the same topics over and over, it is more user friendly.

    Perhaps if some posters did not feel the need to start multiple threads covering the exact same thing, we would not need multiple forums to handle the overflow.;)
  10. Juke99

    Juke99 ...Abbey someone

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    You're not serious are ya?

    Do you have any idea how hard the moderators work here to keep the board organized? They have a TON of stuff to do, every day, gratis.

    We posted a thread a few weeks ago about how we were going to be much more strict once the season began regarding threads being on-topic for the forum in which they appear.

    Yes, I'm sure on occasion, a judgement call is going to be made that will ruffle some feathers...but to suggest it's "Mod Favoritisim" is unfair to the moderators who bust their butts here making this place what it is. And I'm not talking about me when I write that.

    With regard to the "Opinion Zone"...the description is as follows, "For discussions based on opinions by users about players and teams." So, while even the articles are mostly opinions, the authors aren't users.

    In fact, there's a posting guideline that states..All content should be posted in the appropriate forum. If you are unsure in which forum a particular topic should be discussed, use the Off-topic forum. Violating this guideline could result in your post being deleted and/or your account being suspended or banned.

    That a moderator moved a thread, is about as benign as it gets...especially in light of the above guideline.

    Mike, what it comes down to is, we're never going to make everyone happy. As the site has grown, it's become imperative that we organize stuff so that someone doesn't have to sift through tons of threads to find stuff that interests them. In doing so, on occasion, we'll probably upset someone. That isnt the intent.

    So while I understand your concerns..and even disappointment...please try not to see it as moderators playing favorites.

    Thanks.
  11. Outlaw Heroes

    Outlaw Heroes Active Member

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    Just a thought, Juke: there used to be a little arrow icon signifying that a thread had been moved to another forum (and I think the thread would appear in the forum in which it was originally posted for a bit, with the icon, before disappearing entirely). Haven't seen that icon on the threads that have gone missing lately. Might be useful to bring that system back. I have to tell you, sifting through pages of threads isn't nearly as annoying, in my experience, as having a thread you've been following vanish into thin air and not being able to locate it.
  12. Nors

    Nors Benched

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    So any Dallas thread that has an opinion should not be in the Zone? Looking for clarification. What then can be posted in the zone? Thanks
  13. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Normally it is when a thread falls to a page three status.

    If you notice on the main forum it will show no more then 3 pages of threads.

    At one time we had to move literally thousands of threads. There was a time when mods got to do nothing but move threads the whole time they were on the board, once that task was completed we are doing our best to keep on top of that situation.

    It may only take a few hours for a thread to fall off the first page and then move to the 3rd page, depending on the activity of the board that day and the number of new threads....some days it will be faster other days it will last longer and it also will depend on how much activity a individual thread has as it may stay on the front page.

    Threads containing items that point to extreme skins and a thread of something along the lines of how stupid some members of extremeskins are...may last on the main page for a little while or they may be moved very quickly.

    I have no desire for people from extremeskins seeing those threads on the main page and then feel the need to come over here to troll....just as I am sure they do not want people going there to just troll.

    Futhermore if I see a thread that says....I got banned at extremeskins because of (insert reason here) I will move it to the opinion section asap.

    Also one has to realize that there are only so many zones we can move threads too once they fall off to the 3rd page....sometimes we have to make judgement calls to which one they are moved to, sometimes mistakes are made when moving large numbers of threads.

    This is nothing personal to any member on here...I speak for myself, but I am sure other mods feel the same, we are not finding a thread to move just because it is by a specific user.

    However if there are threads that talk smack about extremeskins and may get some of them to come over here to troll...chances are it will be moved quicker.
    If there is a thread where some users are starting to get personal with other members then chances are it will be moved quickly.
    If there is a thread that says something like...I was right and the rest of you suck (in other words baiting users) then chances are it will be moved quicker.

    Trust me when I say it is not very fun when you have to move a multitude of threads daily, nor is it fun to see people post the same thread (article) 2-4 times when it is already on the same page.

    I would like to PM people each time a thread is moved or merged, and at one time I did indeed do that with everyone. However with the number of threads that are moved on a daily basis now it is a little harder to PM everyone everytime.

    Thanks :cool:
  14. Cbz40

    Cbz40 The Grand Poobah

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    Other reasons a thread may be moved:

    Apparently some of you did not read the notice posted by Reality, which was at the top of the page in "The Zone" for a week". All of the above questions were answered and explained in that notice.

    I will summerize:

    When a thread reaches page 3 of "The Zone" we as mods move the thread to the appropriate Zone. This allows the thread to stay alive rather than letting it die in the depths of the archives. We felt that alot of good threads were falling by the wayside and by moving them to another Zone they would at least be given a second life.

    A thread may also be moved to the appropriate zone if it is deemed inappropriate to the main forum. Such as....an advertisement, an announcement, selling tickets, giving away tickets, Fantasy Football, gaming, Tech questions......etc.

    A thread may also be moved or deleted if it contains material, pictures, or language that may interupt the integrity of the board.

    Since some of you refuse to read posting guidelines........I will post one of them for your convenience. Please read.

    Paragraph 3: Our guidelines and how we enforce them are not open to public discussion. If you question or disagree with our policies please feel free to send a private message (PM) to any of the staff members to discuss it privately. We may not agree with your concerns but we will respect your right to discuss what you disagree with as long as it does not disrupt this site and is done so with equal respect. If you cannot accept the following guidelines, please logout and avoid visiting this site.

    Rule 7) Publicly posting messages attacking, questioning, ridiculing or insulting the moderators or the site itself is not allowed. Publicly posting private messages sent to or received from the moderator staff is not allowed. Violating this guideline will result in your account being suspended or banned.



    It is also very obvious that some of you have not bothered to read "The Posting Guidelines". There are several of you in violation of Rule #7 at this very moment.


    I strongly suggest The above Rule be adhered too……

    We as moderators do our best to treat each and every member with respect; therefore, I do not think it is asking too much to be treated with equal respect.
  15. Dave_in-NC

    Dave_in-NC Well-Known Member

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    Can you guys move this to the rule zone or something? Im sick of reading it. :cool:
  16. Cbz40

    Cbz40 The Grand Poobah

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    I think it is best we keep this thread on the main board for a few more minutes.
  17. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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  18. dargonking999

    dargonking999 DKRandom

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    Mod's you do a great job, and i really have to hand it to your guys, to be albe to keep such a great family, freindly enviorment with all of these differnet personalities, and firey subjects, to be able to regulate and control things, ya'll do a great job.Jsut wish all boards where handled with this much respect to the members, but of course not all boards are like this one, which is why i'm here not at the others:D
  19. BigDFan5

    BigDFan5 In Tebow I Trust

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    Anyway we can get a nors zone so we will know what we are getting into when we click a thread he is in? lol
  20. Nors

    Nors Benched

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    I was just questioning - at one point it was mentioned posting in wrong thread was bannable. I was just trying to clarrify what gets posted to opinion zone or Zone? Still not clear but it appears Opinion is where a thread goes when it reaches page 3. Maybe that should be an archive?

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