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Twitter: Phil Costa retires from NFL

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by WoodysGirl, Apr 21, 2014.

  1. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    Brewster? high effort and over performer? Pause. lol

    Generally speaking, I'm a glass half full person, but at some point, you have to acknowledge when you're going round and round in circles in a discussion. At some point, you kinda know when the discussion has reached that point where you guys will never agree on a topic, that's when you should move on. This thread is case in point...
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  2. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    i am sorry but this is patently false
  3. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    It's not one sided, I'm countering your argument, because THAT is the view of the other side. Your comment, "usual suspects blindly praising everything the FO does" is ridiculing other posters. Do you not see that that's what you're doing or no?
  4. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    I disagree and if I had no life, I'd certainly try to google up posts to support my point. But me and the CZ search are not friends.
  5. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    got it

    i will quote a person smarter than i am and stop there

    "At some point, you kinda know when the discussion has reached that point where you guys will never agree on a topic, that's when you should move on."
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  6. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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  7. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    I cant believe this topic has this many responses. Draft cant get here fast enough.
  8. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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  9. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Brewster was an example of the opposite of a high effort player. The idea was that he was a high pick that underachieved, and I'm not a fan as a result.

    I know it's not for everybody, but I think threads like this one are great. They do have a tendency to be great, right up to the point where they've jumped the shark and are annoying to everybody. But in a long off-season, I think they're mostly a welcome distraction until they devolve.

    Re: Costa's tweet...it's interesting. There still might be more to the story, but it sounds like the breakup and the retirement were largely unrelated. Strange timing, though, before any of the rigors of the season actually started. Maybe one of his injuries was chronic, and he wanted the full offseason to see if he'd get any better?
  10. CowboyStar88

    CowboyStar88 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't call "HOPE" as going through life constantly waving Pom poms. It's actually sad that some people would rather live some miserable life. Me I would rather enjoy life and have a little "hope". I don't see one person here up in arms or upset that Costa retired. The response is in the people who just have a need to thump their chest and show the world they were right.
  11. Primetime42

    Primetime42 Well-Known Member

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    Scrub or not, he absolutely would have made the team. They're putrid at the position and his out-of-left-field decision screws them big time.
  12. CowboyStar88

    CowboyStar88 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry but this post is full of nonsense and garbage. I would expect better of you. The only person who is showing the ability to not think for themselves is you. You hang on every post by RS like is the gospal. You my friend are the definition of what you are complaining about.


    P.S. You gotta a little brown spot on your nose you might want to wipe that off.
  13. honyock

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    It may be just what he says. But I'd imagine that the physical rigors would seem a little harder to deal with when your personal life isn't in order, and you're having to start over in a new city, new team, coaches, etc.
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  14. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    So Jerra is not the sizer-up-of-talent we all thought he was?
  15. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    I'm sure. I was really expecting something like depression or anger management to surface. It would seem more likely for him to have stayed a backup in Dallas another year if the question was about being physically able to play.
  16. CowboyStar88

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    There is more to the story IMO. While it doesn't appear the breakup is a real big issue I think it played a part mentally. JMO of course. He was a nice guy so I wish him the best and hope he was smart with his money.
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  17. McLovin

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    My point was the contract $ and length are irrelevant - across the nfl. The barometer is guaranteed money. In this case, $450K is less than a vet minimum. The contract was a no risk contract. If the Colts drafted a T Fred and Costa didn't beat out the current C for the Colts - he could very easily be cut. He wasn't given a starter contract by any stretch.

    I agree with your point that something must be wrong with him in the head. You don't walk away from half a yard of money for at worst 5 months of working out
  18. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    We're basically on the same page on the contract, even though we're going back and forth on it. It was the sort of contract you give a young veteran with starting experience at a position where you think he might start for you in a pinch, but that you're looking to upgrade at the same time. The years and the amount above the vet minimum makes it obvious that it's more than the sort of vet minimum deal you offer to a guy to round out your roster, and the fact that it's not larger makes it clear that he wasn't signed to be a clear-cut long term starter. It was a low risk signing to give the team an option at a position of need prior to the draft.

    That's all fine, though, because the fact that one NFL team extending him, and the other signed him for more than a year at more than the minimum proves the point. It's not like there were two sides on Phil Costa...one saying he's an all pro and another saying he doesn't belong in the league. The sides were saying he's a walk-on player who's capable of giving you starting snaps and the other saying he doesn't belong in the league at all. It really hasn't been a debate from the time Dallas extended him.

    In any event, my first post in the thread was 'lol,' because his abrupt retirement basically means there won't be any chance for either side to really feel vindicated. Phil Costa, starting any games at all for the Colts would have been pretty amusing. As would 'Phil Costa, cut by Indianapolis in the cut down to 53,' I have to admit. I think I like him just up and retiring before the start of camp best, though, given all the back and forth about this particular player. It feels sort of like the ending of Lost.
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  19. Eric_Boyer

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    sorry to change the subject, but I knew Bo Jackson was a scrub that would never make it in this league.

    turns out I was right all along.
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  20. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Personally I was never put much time or effort into the whole Costa crap. Found it amusing that both sides of the argument were so diehard in their postings and knew one side or the other would be sure to be patting themselves on the back with one hand and pounding their chest with the other sooner or later.

    With that said...you got it bad for Risen...

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