1. Welcome to CowboysZone!  Join us!  Come on!  You know you want to!

News: Quick cap update (8/15/07)...$13,045,204

Discussion in 'News Zone' started by AdamJT13, Mar 1, 2007.

  1. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

    14,935 Messages
    309 Likes Received
    Update (5/18/07) -- After signing our UDFAs and releasing Brock Berlin and Carlos Martinez, we're now $12,338,571 under the cap.

    Here are the signing bonuses for the 15 undrafted free agents we signed. Bartel and Paulescu signed one-year contracts, and the rest signed three-year deals --

    QB Matt Moore $15,000
    WR Jerard Rabb $15,000
    NT Ola Dagunduro $12,000
    DE Marcus Smith $10,000
    RB Alonzo Coleman $9,000
    TE Rodney Hannah $9,000
    LB Alex Obomese $7,500
    RB Jackie Battle $7,000
    LB Dedrick Harrington $5,500
    S Jasper Johnson $5,500
    LB Blair Phillips $5,500
    WR Mike Jefferson $5,000
    C Steve Rissler $5,000
    QB Richard Bartel $0
    P Sam Paulescu $0
  2. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

    8,947 Messages
    660 Likes Received
    Adam, we were discussing in another thread how Robert Turner is not listed among our UDFAs.

    You said he chose to sign with the Jets, but the Cowboys have him listed on their official roster and have assigned him a number.

    Now, that's possibly just a mistake by those that run the site, because the Jets also have him listed on their roster. But it does make me curious.

    A google search gives both credit for signing him, so can someone provide more concrete information on this.
  3. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

    14,935 Messages
    309 Likes Received
    He apparently agreed to sign with us, but then changed his mind and signed with the Jets.
  4. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

    8,947 Messages
    660 Likes Received
    What info do you have on that signing?

    The main thing that's puzzling me is him being listed with a number on DC.com. Numbers for players aren't issued until after they sign and report, so I could understand them messing up and putting his name on the roster, but the number part is throwing me.
  5. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

    14,935 Messages
    309 Likes Received
    He signed a three-year contract with the Jets on March 15, and it was approved by the league March 16. He got a $2,000 signing bonus.


    My guess is they assigned his number when he said he'd be coming to sign with us.
  6. Gryphon

    Gryphon Merge Ahead

    3,389 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    by AdamJT13

    Here are the signing bonuses for the 15 undrafted free agents we have signed. Bartel and Paulescu signed one-year contracts, and the rest signed three-year deals --

    QB Matt Moore $15,000
    WR Jerard Rabb $15,000
    NT Ola Dagunduro $12,000
    DE Marcus Smith $10,000
    RB Alonzo Coleman $9,000
    TE Rodney Hannah $9,000
    LB Alex Obomese $7,500
    RB Jackie Battle $7,000
    LB Dedrick Harrington $5,500
    S Jasper Johnson $5,500
    LB Blair Phillips $5,500
    WR Mike Jefferson $5,000
    C Steve Rissler $5,000
    QB Richard Bartel $0
    P Sam Paulescu $0
    __________________
    for more updates visit http://gryphononcowboys.blogspot.com/
  7. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

    14,935 Messages
    309 Likes Received
    Update (5/31/07) -- Matt Baker signed a one-year extension last week and pocketed a $17,000 signing bonus. He's now signed through 2008. Including this and Nate Jones' standard workout bonus being added to our salary cap, we're now $12,312,231 under the cap.
  8. fortdick

    fortdick Well-Known Member

    5,412 Messages
    35 Likes Received
    Too bad you can't carry over from one year to next. Kinda like a cell phone plan.
  9. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

    14,935 Messages
    309 Likes Received
    You can, you just have to use one of the loopholes in the rules. Last season, at least 23 teams pushed leftover cap room into this year, including us.

    The easiest way is to add an unreachable incentive to a player's contract near the end of the season (when you know how much will be left over). By rule, it automatically counts against the cap that season. And because it's not earned, it automatically gets credited back to the team for the next season.

    Here are the 23 teams that used the loophole last December, with player names and amounts --

    Jacksonville -- Kenneth Pettway, $8.46 million
    Kansas City -- Kawika Mitchell, $8,256,000
    New Orleans -- Jay Bellamy $7.7 million
    Houston -- David Anderson, $7,646,065
    San Francisco -- Anthony Adams, $5,525,000; Keith Lewis, $1,135,473
    Cleveland -- Clifton Smith, $4,096,020
    Seattle -- Will Heller, $3.3 million
    New England -- Troy Brown, $350,000; Antwain Spann, $2,913,410
    Carolina -- Brett Basanez, $1.6 million; Steven Jackson, $1.6 million
    Dallas -- Abram Elam, $3.1 million
    Buffalo -- Shaud Williams, $3 million
    Detroit -- Claude Harriott, $1.61 million; Dave Pearson, $635,000
    Baltimore -- Matt Katula, $2.1 million
    Minnesota -- Wendell Mathis, $1.19 million
    Indianapolis -- Matt Ulrich, $1 million
    N.Y. Giants -- Chase Blackburn, $570,000
    Oakland -- Derek Miller, $557,700
    Denver -- Damien Nash, $539,788
    Philadelphia -- Shawn Barber, $500,095
    Green Bay -- Noah Herron, $500,000
    Chicago -- Cameron Worrell, $400,000
    Washington -- Ade Jimoh, $265,215
    Tennessee -- Drew Bennett $250,000
  10. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

    8,947 Messages
    660 Likes Received
    I figured you'd have the official information.

    Your next task is to straighten those people at DC.com out, although that might be asking too much.
  11. ravidubey

    ravidubey Active Member

    4,864 Messages
    11 Likes Received
    Who in Hell is Kenneth Pettway, and why on earth is that contract number legal? Sheesh, Deion Sanders signs with Dallas and the Commish freaks out about breaking the "spirit" of the salary cap and warns of paying a below-market value deal-- and then crap like this goes on.

    At least most of the teams listed below Dallas one your list are using the rule for what it was intended. Those above Dallas (and heck, including Dallas) are brazenly skirting the intended purpose and have truly made it a rule worthy of the term "loophole".

    Are there any "rollover" limits?

    For example, suppose a team's cap limit was raised 5 million higher than what was standard in 2006 because they rolled over 5 million from 2005. Then say that team spent exactly 5 million under their new limit in 2006 (IOW they spent the standard cap limit) could they by similar loophole carryover that 5 million into 2007?

    It seems like by doing so, teams could save cap space over four-five years in an attempt to buy a Superbowl over a two year window-- and they'd do so without risking a single signing bonus.
  12. Double Trouble

    Double Trouble Well-Known Member

    8,475 Messages
    244 Likes Received
    Teams have been doing it for years, it's within the rules, and every team has the opportunity to do it.

    What's the problem?
  13. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

    25,350 Messages
    808 Likes Received
    Except for the simple fact that "buying" a superbowl through free agency is a strategy that pretty much never works. The best players get re-signed by the own teams.
  14. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

    41,437 Messages
    1,457 Likes Received
    Well figure that we are going to spend about a million or so cap money this year on our rookies. Maybe 2. So odds are that we are going into the season with over 10 mill in space. enough to sign Romo, and maybe JJ if he shines.
    Of course if Romo comes out of the box on fire and is leading the league halfway through the season Jerrah will have to sign him and it will be EXPENSIVE.
  15. ravidubey

    ravidubey Active Member

    4,864 Messages
    11 Likes Received
    Beyond acquiring free agents, it would also allow you to keep more of the 2nd tier role players that want to go elsewhere.

    It costs major bucks and risk of injury in the form of signing bonuses to be able to borrow cap space from future years. But a loophole allows teams to bypass (or worse, supplement) that strategy and instead borrow from past years at no risk.

    Yes it's legal, but why make it a loophole then? Just allow teams to rollover cap space indefinitely.
  16. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

    14,400 Messages
    2,124 Likes Received
    I think the Deadskins have proved that you cant "buy a SB".

    Yet those retards keep trying!!!

    :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
  17. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

    25,350 Messages
    808 Likes Received
    I think what you miss is that EVERY team can do this -- you only get an advantage if you are the ONLY team doing something.
  18. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

    25,350 Messages
    808 Likes Received
    Newman's agent indicated they would be talking about a new deal
  19. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

    14,935 Messages
    309 Likes Received
    Not yet.

    To do that, they'd have to spend less than most teams each season leading up to their big season. And remember, the cap goes up each season, so the same amount of money actually would be worth less in future years. If you save $5 million when the cap is $107 million, push it forward a few years and decide to spend it when the cap is $135 million, it went from being 4.67 percent of the cap to 3.7 percent of the cap.
  20. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

    118,488 Messages
    1,732 Likes Received
    Is TO's roster bonus already accounted for in the cap room you are currently reporting Adam?

Share This Page