1. Welcome to CowboysZone!  Join us!  Come on!  You know you want to!

Redsk*ns ask refs how to protect RGIII

Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by Idgit, Aug 3, 2013.

  1. Rogah

    Rogah Well-Known Member

    3,845 Messages
    117 Likes Received
    Um, those 4 quarterbacks you mentioned have almost 40 years of experience among them. So that's 4 major injuries in 40 seasons for those guys, compared to 1 major injury in 1 season for RG3.
    Newsflash: No one is saying injuries can't happen to pocket passers. All I am saying is that RG3's style is far riskier than the classic pocket quarterbacks.
    I like RG3. And it's because I like him that I hope the powers-that-be in Washington are far wiser than you are in how they utilize him.
  2. SkinsHokieFan

    SkinsHokieFan Well-Known Member

    2,253 Messages
    45 Likes Received
    You have been looking in the mirror of late? Nice :)

    Considering the way the Redskins steamrolled the division teams in the 2nd games each time, I feel even better about this season.

    A one legged RG3 ran for over 10 yards a carry in the division championship game. The time he had 2 legs against Dallas he had his best game as a passer.

    Pick your poison.
  3. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

    33,080 Messages
    807 Likes Received
    You will when your QB has his next knee surgery within 6 months.
  4. SkinsHokieFan

    SkinsHokieFan Well-Known Member

    2,253 Messages
    45 Likes Received
    When your only hope is praying for injuries, you know you are in a world of trouble.
  5. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

    32,007 Messages
    7,753 Likes Received
    Let's. I'll put our DEs against your FBs any week. And not worried about chops anymore, either. We can beat your blitz if you want to rely on that.

    Let the best and deepest team win. That was you in week 17. I don't believe it'll be the case more often than not.
  6. muck4doo

    muck4doo Well-Known Member

    2,008 Messages
    92 Likes Received
    The Brady rule?
  7. SkinsHokieFan

    SkinsHokieFan Well-Known Member

    2,253 Messages
    45 Likes Received
    1) I like Darrel Young going up against your 30 year old+ DE's. It worked like a charm in week 17 with our QB at 50% at best

    2) You couldn't beat our blitz at all, in particular in week 17, and this with no Orakpo or Carriker as well as the weakest secondary the Redskins have fielded in years. In the NFL Networks "Game of the week" you hear Romo constantly talk about how he has no protection against the blitz. The fake blitz is what killed him on the Rob Jackson INT

    3) The Redskins were the better team on Thanksgiving, the better team in week 17 and going into this season will be the better team, in particular if Griffin is fully healthy. If not, I have full faith and confidence in Cousins with Alfred Morris behind him, and I have tons of confidence in the scheme, in particular the use of the pistol formation
  8. Reality

    Reality Administrator Staff Member

    11,867 Messages
    1,683 Likes Received
    Reminds me when I was young playing pickup football where there would be that one kid screaming "Timeout" over and over each time he was about get tackled .. that just made everyone want to tackle him more. :D
  9. Vtwin

    Vtwin Power and Performance

    1,960 Messages
    112 Likes Received
    This style of play is going to force the NFL to look at the rules regarding protecting the QB. Assuming G-cubed actually makes it through the season.

    If your game relies on confusing the defense as to who is going to end up running the ball with late fakes and option type plays you have to give the defense the same latitude in hitting the QB which they have in hitting the RB who doesn't have the ball after a well executed play action fake. This game most definitely takes advantage of the QB protection rules that weren't enforced to this degree twenty years ago.

    It will be interesting to see if marketing wins out over logic and reason or vice versa.
  10. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

    3,052 Messages
    1,086 Likes Received
    Funny how foreskin fans come out after last years season. Where were they before? Where will they be one the burn up Griffin?
  11. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

    33,080 Messages
    807 Likes Received
    You are the one threatening to turn the NFL into hockey if your fragile QB gets sacked.
    1fisher likes this.
  12. Rogah

    Rogah Well-Known Member

    3,845 Messages
    117 Likes Received
    I don't see anyone in here doing this. In general, people rarely pray for something which is inevitable. For example, I don't pray for the sun to rise in the east tomorrow morning.
  13. Califan007

    Califan007 Well-Known Member

    1,223 Messages
    131 Likes Received
    Wait, all I ever heard around here was how Skins fans were always here declaring themselves the next SB champs...now it's that Skins fans were never here until now?

    You guys need to get your smack talking points straightened out lol...
  14. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

    32,007 Messages
    7,753 Likes Received
    This isn't last season. I don't know why you Sk*ns fans put stock in thinking that a two game stretch constitutes an irreversible trend. It obviously doesn't work like that in the NFL. We're the better team overall at full strength.

    But it's nice to hear how much confidence you have in your untested backup and that the rest of the league wont counter the pistol fairly quickly. Good luck with that. We'll see how it works out for both of us, soon enough.

    Darrel Young, lol.
  15. Califan007

    Califan007 Well-Known Member

    1,223 Messages
    131 Likes Received
    Sacked? No...but that's not the plan being promoted, is it lol..."sacked" means he was in the process of trying to throw. What's been advocated on this thread and for months on this site is slamming RG3 as hard as possible whether he's passing or not, whether he even has the ball or not, even if it means taking penalties--which means you're fully aware that what you're suggesting could be against the rules but you don't care.

    What SHF said earlier was right: treating that as a viable defensive tactic means every defense and team in the league can and should use it. Want the 49ers defense purposefully slamming Romo into the turf whenever possible, even if its illegal, simply because they can't stop him any other way?
    SkinsHokieFan likes this.
  16. Califan007

    Califan007 Well-Known Member

    1,223 Messages
    131 Likes Received
    You have THAT much confidence in your O-Line to stop blitzes? Really?

    I have more confidence in Cousins w/Shanahan at the controls than I do in the Cowboys O-Line neutralizing disguised blitzes.
  17. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

    7,506 Messages
    409 Likes Received
    The Run, Pass Option worked last year but is not long for the NFL, QBs are going to get destroyed this season......RGIII is fantastic, love the guy but any Team running their QB down the field is just flirting with disaster.
  18. Bizwah

    Bizwah Well-Known Member

    5,987 Messages
    216 Likes Received
    Your player wasn't the only one at 50%. Ware was playing with basically no arms. He couldn't lift or push off with either one.


    You may have fielded a week secondary, but we had essentially run out of Wrs the last game. Austin left both games early. Dez hurt his back early in the second game and didn't finish. In fact Romo had one healthy Wr at the end of the game. Had we won, there was talk that we wouldn't have enough healthy Wrs for the playoff game.

    You weren't the only team with injury issues. We simply were ravaged last year in the middle of our defense. We lost Ratliff, Lee, Carter, Church, and numerous backups.

    You all had the better team last year. This is a new year, however. We're better in quite a few areas: Wr, Te, DL, Lb, and Cb. An argument can be made for Qb. But of course, we will see.
  19. SkinsHokieFan

    SkinsHokieFan Well-Known Member

    2,253 Messages
    45 Likes Received
    Because I clearly don't play in the NFL, nor do I have a job in the NFL, nor am I affiliated with any team besides being a fan
  20. SkinsHokieFan

    SkinsHokieFan Well-Known Member

    2,253 Messages
    45 Likes Received
    Both teams were very injured going into the week 17 game

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2013/2012-adjusted-games-lost

    In fact the AGL ranks were right next to each other, with the Cowboys being slightly more healthy then the Redskins in the "adjusted games loss" rank. So lets throw out the "we were injured" canard that most Cowboy fans here want to throw out. Both teams came into the game essentially at equal health.

    As for talent, we have been hearing for years how talented the Cowboys are, and its produced nothing but 8-8. Shanahan has done a great job of not only improving the roster, making it younger, but also making it a complete team. Which is why in a division championship game, our QB can get away with throwing for 100 yards yet we still get the 10 point win.

    Your team is "talented" yet its core is aging. Its future core is constantly injured (Lee/Murray/Carter), one part of that future core thus far has been mixed (Tyron) and there is one bonafide superstar who didn't show up in the most important game of the season (Bryant). And the scheme on D is changing.

    Going back to the entire premise of this thread, it is clear that the "we are going to beat up the QB approach" won't fly as much as fans would love to have it work, and in part because of clarifications the Redskins/49ers/Seahawks/Panthers are getting in training camp.

    If Griffin knows in July what he can and can't do, that makes his job easier when he is on the field. Make it obvious he doesn't have the ball, and DE's can't touch him without drawing a flag.

Share This Page