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Romo Stats Not Stans

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Staubacher, Sep 23, 2013.

  1. Aurican

    Aurican Active Member

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    I agree, what they and the stats don't take into account is that a QB not only affects his own performance but those around him as well. If a QB is elite like Manning or Brady they can see and read what the defense is doing and call the best play against it and beat it, sometimes that can be a run or a pass or a mismatch in coverage. That can affect the running game, red zone scoring, the flow and rhythm of the offense and resting the defense. Great players make those around them better, they also perform at their best when the stakes are high and against the best teams.
  2. Staubacher

    Staubacher Well-Known Member

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    I know these don't count but he should have had two picks against us, including a pick six by Carter. And he did a lot of that 114 yards running on the opening drive vs us. He keeps running like that he won't last very long.

    Smith was what KC needed - for now. Both he and them will come back down to reality by the end of the season.
  3. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    No...
    I need to find that thread!
  4. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    Not really, bro. You are calling what you HAVE seen from Romo without a running game, a good defense, special teams, coaching, etc.

    Now, we are seeing the great Eli, that a poster or two likes to worship do worse than Romo. See how that works?

    Every QB is going to make a SNAFU once in a while, but so far this season, and especially this last game, you can see that Romo can succeed with a team around him that does their job. But, for posters to always "live in the past" (the Washington game last year) to use as an excuse to crap all over him is just...lazy.

    But, as I've said in the past, if Romo gets injured and is out for the year, hey, now what are you guys going to do? Did you cringe when Romo hurt his ribs this year? Or, did you say, "YES!...now we can let a reall QB take over"!!

    Shame, shame, shame....
  5. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    Uh, hate to break it to you, but the players around Romo affect his performance also, but don't let that cloud your judgement and joy of crapping on the TEAM you root for and their QB.

    Carry on...
  6. jimnabby

    jimnabby Well-Known Member

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    I'm trying to figure out how the stats don't take this into account. Okay, the running piece of it maybe. But if a QB "can see and read what the defense is doing and call the best play against it and beat it", surely that will make his stats better. After all, he's calling better pass plays against it and he's not calling pass plays when a run is better.

    And no, great players don't "perform at their best when the stakes are high and against the best teams." That's just a cliche. Great players perform well against everybody, and, like everyone else, they generally get better results against bad opponents than they do against good opponents.
  7. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    And what about Romo? He should have had at least 2 against the Chiefs as well. The PI call against Berry(Which shouldn't have been a flag) negated one and then on the very next play Romo throws it to the Chiefs again but the player dropped the ball. But there is no reason to talk about "almosts". At the end of the day they didn't happen for either player.
  8. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    This is so far off base, it's not even in the same zip code. I recognize Romo's strengths and weaknesses.

    The trick is, for Romo to allow other players to do that. You can't just abandon the run at the 1st sign of adversity, which is what I see way too much from this offense.

    In my opinion, Romo has had 1 bad game (KC), 1 OK game (NY) and 1 great game (Rams).

    Let's see how the season progresses. That will tell the story of Tony better then any amount of threads and post can. I don't know how you can be more fair then that.
  9. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Should have int's don't show up in the stats or affect the outcome of games. They go down as what could of or should have been. Romo threw a pick vs KC that he got away with due to a penalty. Smith isn't what is known as a running QB but he's sneaky athletic and is effective when he takes off. He's a smart runner who avoids big shots he gets what he can and either slides or runs out of bounds. For KC to get far with him he's going to have to prove he can carry them "at times" which is what QB's have to be able to do in the playoffs.

    He wasn't able to do that in the 2011 NFC title game and it prompted Harbaugh to draft Kaerpernick and eventually move on from Smith. I don't see a QB in this era driving a bus to a championship it's too much of a passing league. Smith has improved a lot as a QB and he's going to have to continue improving his production if he's going to be the long-term answer in KC. Flacco was a bus driver but was able to produce big during the playoffs last season which led to their championship.
  10. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    Preach on! It's amazing how a truly elite QB can motivate and lead the whole team around him.
  11. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    Let's see, you were praising Eli about being elite, then how wonderful RG3 would do, then Kapernick and how great he's gong to be, then how Tebow inspires teams to win, Well, now that they are sucking golf balls through a garden hose, you latch onto Smith as your next better than ever QB over Romo in a crap on Romo thread?

    Did you cringe when Romo got his ribs bruised, or did you jump for joy because now a real QB can come save the day...you know, maybe Smith?
    03EBZ06 likes this.
  12. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    I made a few honest comments about Smith and you're reading into them that I'm latching onto him as a better QB than Romo? LOL! Your agenda continues. By the way why no posts from you in the fan forum for 3 weeks? hmm
  13. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    Ha ha! Tebow...
  14. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    Oh, dude, if the Cowboys lose to the Chargers, even if the defense gives up 5 touchdowns, guess what? You will be on here praising Phillip Rivers on how much better a QB is than Romo.

    Where I have been for three weeks is none of your business.
  15. dstovall5

    dstovall5 Well-Known Member

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    So are you saying Romo doesn't make players around him better? :rolleyes:
  16. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    Why you laughing? KJJ has been praising how Tebow "inspires" his teams to win! He has not told you what Tebow can do with a fish and a loaf of bread!
  17. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Just more of you interpreting what you want to fit your agenda.
  18. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    And way to much of that offense is Romo's fault? The oline had nothing to do with his screw ups? The have to catch up to help the team get a win is Romo's fault because they cannot run the ball or the defense cannot stop other teams from scoring? I surely did not expect that from you.

    And, if the Cowboys go on to win a SB this year? Guess what? Romo is not the only one to make that happen, but if the team stinks, you guys can go on and enjoy trashing the guy. I call it like I see it also, bro. shame, shame, shame...
  19. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    Would you stop with this "agenda" crap! I have no agenda with you. Every time someone counters you act with a post you cannot refute it's always "you have and agenda" crap!

    Get outta here with all that!
  20. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    If you don't have an agenda then provide a post to back up your claim that I'm saying Alex Smith is better than Romo. LOL You gave your own interpretation to some comments I made. You need to get outta here with all that!

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