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Roy Williams on KTBB.com (must listen) - 8/1/08

Discussion in 'Artwork Zone' started by dcfanatic, Aug 1, 2008.

  1. dcfanatic

    dcfanatic Benched

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    Roy on KTBB.com
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    I have many thoughts on this interview that are both negative and positive.

    The negative first this way I am able to end on a good note.

    Roy has become so thin skinned from the Dallas media and the fans taking him to task because he isn't the same player as he was a few years ago.

    He is resilient on his point that the fans/media are sometimes 'lacking the knowledge' of what's going on when he's on the field. For me this pertains to the criticism he gets about his coverage skills. I have said it a few million times already that I could care less if his coverage skills improve as long as he gets back to making 'dynamic' plays. Those plays for me are Sacks, Tackles for Losses, Forced Fumbles and some big hits here and there. As always I really hope he can do that this season because it helps the Dallas Cowboys! If he can't then I feel the Cowboys can't continue to pay him so much money while he's not being used on the nickel/dime situations and he isn't making those dynamic plays.

    He also says his production isn't down because he makes a lot of tackles. To me that's Wade talking. Tackling a guy after he catches a pass or after he is 12 yards downfield is ok, but then on the other hand it's not ok because of the money he's making.

    Now for the good.

    At least he is in some ways taking the criticism on. He isn't as defensive and he is once again talking to the media and trying to mend fences.

    Roy has always been a team player. I never questioned that. I have questioned his 'passion' for the game on occasions and I still have some doubts that football is as important to him as it once was, but he has said he is reinvigorated this season and I hope to see that once the season begins.

    I also think his way of life is a good thing. He has never been in any off the trouble and he's a great help to those around him in need.

    Now for the broken record. I just want that old Roy back that used to make opposing offenses fear him. I want to once again be able to be proud to say the Cowboys have the hardest hitting Safety in the game. I want to once again hear the name Roy Williams and it relay some thoughts of him helping the team win football games on the level that Demarcus Ware, Tony Romo, Terrell Owens, Marion Barber, Jason Witten, Terence Newman, etc. help the team win football games.

    At one point he was among that group of names and I hope one day this season he is once again a part of that group.
  2. ThreeSportStar80

    ThreeSportStar80 Benched

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    Roy needs to passion and fire back into his game... He just needs to bring it every game!
  3. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    Link to NewyScruggs blog about Roy vs DFW Media - http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123205

    Newy's supposed to write an extended article for the FWST tomorrow.

    Haven't listened to the audio, but I'm sure it's very similar to things written in other articles as well as in Newy's blog.

    Only thing I can say is at least he's talking. He was criticized alot for not speaking to the media. So if nothing else, folks can praise/criticize/discuss actual words vs perceptions.
  4. dcfanatic

    dcfanatic Benched

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    I heard on the Lunch Break that Nick Eatman sat and talked to him for 45 minutes as well and is writing a 'come to Jesus' article. I thought it was coming out today, maybe it will be up later on tonight.
  5. Bungarian

    Bungarian Butt Monkey

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    Dude lay off the bold text. It makes you post hard to read.
  6. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    Yeah there's an article. I thought it was already posted. (This one was by Rob Phillips and I just posted that one) Maybe Eatman has another on the way.

    Anywho, there have been 3 or 4 articled posted in the last week already about Roy, his faith, responding to critics and focusing on his re-energized passion for football.

    So I'm sure this is more of the same.
  7. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    FWIW, Mosley has said the past two days that he was talking to Wade, and that of all the different packages we have for different situations, he can't believe how many of them Roy is NOT in anymore. Seems they are really working to get him off the field in more and more situations.

    He also said that Jerry's attitude has changed a ton in the last year from "Make Roy an impact player again" to "Do whatever you have to do to make us the best team, and if that means getting Roy off the field, so be it."

    Just FYI. I'm not a Roy basher by any stretch.
  8. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    It'll be interesting to see how often they use which packages. It's great that we've got the personnel to be so flexible this year.

    Roy's so soft-spoken for such a killer. I wonder if--with the mis-perception that he play has dropped off dramatically--that's contributed to people thinking he's soft-skinned or has lost it.
  9. dcfanatic

    dcfanatic Benched

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    That's it?
  10. cowboyjoe

    cowboyjoe Well-Known Member

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    I think first, at least like DC says, at least Roy is talking to the media, trying to get things right. Roy is working out again, studying film. Thats a step in the right direction.


    I agree with some of you, I want to see roy with the fire and passion to play.

    However, I dont agree with what roy said about tackling, the line of scrimmage hits, the fumbles, big hits, just werent there last few years. I dont know the reason why, maybe its what roy said, he got used to the way he was playing, and he didnt see anything wrong.

    Main thing I want, is what I have said all along, for Roy to give all he has, by that I mean this. In offseason workouts, to work hard, in film study to study extra hours, even show Hamlin some stuff on film study. On game time, give some big hits, sure not to kill anyone or harm them with intent, but make them pay for trying to catch that pass or run that football.

    Its like Darren Woodson told roy, as you get older you have to pick and choose, you can kill everyone on every play. Maybe when you were younger, but as you get older, you have to save some of your energy so when the game might be on the line, then deliver that big blow, or when a team needs to be buried, then bury that team.

    I think we all deep, deep down want roy to succeed. All I ask give it all you have roy, as you know, your representing the Lord, when you play now, know that in your heart and soul, you left everything on the field and you prepared for that game with film study, practicing and giving it your all.

    Like Darren Woodson, Charley Waters, Cliff Harris, Cornell Green, and Mike Downs, we want you to play like those Cowboys players did, knowing like Michael Irvin said, to look up, get up and give it your all. Represent the proud heritage that these former great safeties played. Even Roger Staubach was a christian, but he fought you tooth and nail, gave it all, with his heart, passion, God given ability and desire to be the best.

    Thats what I want Roy, and I am sure the rest of us Cowboys fans want the same thing, Make us proud and show us that determinatiion and grit, and be a leader on this team, setting an example for Hamlin, Courtney Brown, Pat Watkins, even helping Anthon Henry and possibly learning from him some things, and help the Cowboys back to those championship years.

    Sure, your going to get beat now and then, so did Darren Woodson, or Cliff Harris, or Charley Waters, look at their history Roy, and learn from it, and play like the player we know you really are deep down, and give God the glory.
  11. LeonDixson

    LeonDixson Illegitimi non carborundum

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    I agree with you, but even when he says "the words" people read into it what they want. The other day he said that if he's taken off the field in certain situation because someone else can do something better in that situation that he can, then he's okay with that. Whatever is best for the team.

    I'm sure you remember what some of his detractors made of that statement.
  12. onfieldrush8141

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    have a feeling roy is going to have a nice year
  13. Angus

    Angus Active Member

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    I hope Roy Williams recaptures the enthusiasm and elan of his Rookie year but, whether he does or doesn't, he is better off as a person for the change in his outlook on life. There are other people who can play strong safety for the Dallas Cowboys but there is only one who can lead a satisfied and whole life for Roy Williams.

    If he has lost anything, he has gained more. I wish him the best.

    :starspin
  14. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    I have no clue if we will see a new and improved Roy this year.

    But I have always thought this is a make or break season for him.
  15. EMMITTnROY

    EMMITTnROY Well-Known Member

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    great post.

    i think Roy's gonna be back in a big way this season.. the hits are comin' again, folks..
  16. Bungarian

    Bungarian Butt Monkey

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    The Roy thing is old. I am not really into it anymore. I like to read your posts but don't like the bold.
  17. TheSkaven

    TheSkaven Last Man Standing

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    Oh look, another Roy Williams thread.

    I agree with DC whole-heartedly, Roy needs to get back to the bone-crushing hits, and become the playmaker that he once was. We all know he's a liability in coverage (myth #79?), I can live with it if he can make more big game-changing plays.

    Oh yeah, that play Wade called at least a dozen times last year, where Roy blitzes up the middle and runs into an o-lineman, let's stop running that one. The inside blitz doesn't play with him, he needs to come off the edge.
  18. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    there shouldn't ever be a problem with having the best players on the field. if that's not roy, fine. but because of his *status* he's a failure if not a star.

    i just get to be amazed the standards we so easily put on others we've never put upon ourselves.
  19. dcfanatic

    dcfanatic Benched

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    Welcome to the world of professional sports and it's fans.

    And I am not trying to start with you, but that's the way it is and always will be IMO.
  20. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure that some of that has to do with Mosley not being told every year of the packages that Roy isn't in. Not saying he is out of the loop but that I doubt Wade has been keeping a journal for Mosley to compare the packages. When you don't ever pay attention to something that changes over a couple of years, you are in for quite the shock when it finally does come to your attention.


    The CBs on the team are a huge strength right now and it would be foolish to not play into that. As offenses continue to utilize 4 and 5 receiver sets, defenses need to keep up. Unless a team has two really good coverage safeties, it will probably become more common to see substitutions that give the defenses better match-ups.

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