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Russia Says Response to U.S. Missile Shield

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by Doomsday101, Aug 20, 2008.

  1. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    MOSCOW — Russia's Foreign Ministry says its response to U.S. missile shield development will go beyond diplomacy, adding that the U.S. plan is part of an "extremely dangerous bundle" of military projects.

    Earlier Wednesday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her Polish counterpart signed a deal to build a U.S. missile defense base in Poland, an agreement that prompted an infuriated Russia to warn of a possible attack against the former Soviet satellite.

    Rice dismissed the blustery comments from Russian leaders who say Warsaw's hosting of 10 U.S. interceptor missiles just 115 miles from Russia's westernmost frontier opens the country up to attack.

    Such comments "border on the bizarre frankly," Rice said, speaking to reporters traveling with her in Warsaw.

    "When you threaten Poland, you perhaps forget that it is not 1988," Rice said. "It's 2008 and the United States has a ... firm treaty guarantee to defend Poland's territory as if it was the territory of the United States. So it's probably not wise to throw these threats around."

    The deal, which Washington sought as a way of defending the U.S. and Europe from a hypothetical threat of long-distance missiles from Iran, has strained relations between Moscow and the West. Those ties were already troubled by Russia's invasion of its former Soviet neighbor, U.S. ally Georgia, earlier this month.

    Speaking to reporters traveling with her, Rice said, "the Russians are losing their credibility."

    Rice and Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski signed the deal Wednesday morning.

    "It is an agreement which will help us to respond to the threats of the 21st century," she said afterward.

    Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said the agreement came after tough but friendly negotiations.

    "We have achieved our main goals, which means that our country and the United States will be more secure," he said.

    After Warsaw and Washington announced the agreement on the deal last week, top Russian Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn warned that Poland is risking attack, and possibly a nuclear one, by deploying the American missile defense system, Russia's Interfax news agency reported.

    Poles have been shaken by the threats, but NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop dismissed them Tuesday as "pathetic rhetoric."

    "It is unhelpful and it leads nowhere," he told reporters at a NATO meeting in Brussels, Belgium.

    On Wednesday, Russia's Foreign Ministry issued a statement saying the U.S. missile shield plans are clearly aimed at weakening Russia and that Moscow's response to their further development will go beyond diplomacy.

    Many Poles consider the agreement a form of protection at a time when Russia's invasion of Georgia has generated alarm throughout Eastern Europe. Poland is a member of the European Union and NATO, and the deal is expected to deepen its military partnership with Washington.

    Polish President Lech Kaczynski also expressed "great satisfaction" at the outcome of the long months of negotiations.

    Poland and the United States spent a year and a half negotiating, and talks recently had snagged on Poland's demands that the U.S. bolster Polish security with Patriot missiles in exchange for hosting the missile defense base.

    Washington agreed to do so last week, as Poland invoked the Georgia conflict to strengthen its case.

    The Patriots are meant to protect Poland from short-range missiles from neighbors — such as Russia.

    The U.S. already has reached an agreement with the government in Prague to place the second component of the missile defense shield — a radar tracking system — in the Czech Republic, Poland's southwestern neighbor and another formerly communist country.

    Approval is still needed by the Czech and Polish parliaments.

    No date has been set for the Polish parliament to consider the agreement, but it should face no difficulties in Warsaw, where it enjoys the support of the largest opposition party as well as the government.
  2. Chinfu

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    Well the line has been drawn, cross it as your own risk.
  3. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I think Rice made it clear what the US responsibility to Poland is. Poland as part of NATO will be defended like any other NATO country that comes under attack
  4. Chinfu

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    I know a lot has been said about how great the timing of the Russians attack on Georgia was but it may come back and haunt them more than most think.
  5. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I agree it could cost them a seat on the G8 which has been very important to Russia
  6. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    If the US ever really decided to get down to Brass Tacs with Russia, it could cost them very dearly. Recently, Russia has entered into an agreement with Japan that will help Russia provide more efficiant Energy to there people for the foreseeable furture. This agreement was backed and largely financed by the U.S. Russia is no longer self sustaining. They never really were but in the old days, they were at least set up to endure the hardships that a very limited industrialized economy could provide. Russia is still, primarily, a resource based export economy. That's not a bad thing but, because they do not have the internal banking infrastructure necessary to support a modern economy, they rely heavily on foreign investment. Russia has enjoyed 7 straight years of economic growth. This trend will continue if they continue to stay stable. However, if the US or the European markets invoked sanctions on Russia, there economy would spriral in a huge fireball that would light the Baltic skies for years to come. Inflation and destabalization of the Rubel Almost destroyed Russia in the Early to mid 90s. If the U.S 13 Trilion dollar economy were thrown against Russia, as opposed to throwing it's weight into supporting that country, the Russian Economy would crumble. Never mind trying to support a military engagement agaisnt the U.S. A simple withdrawal of economic support by the U.S. and our Allies would devistate Russia inside of a year.

    They are simply not strong enough to withstand that kind of economic hardship at this point in there economic development.
  7. Chinfu

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    I rarely hear this side of it, all I hear is how Europe will crumble without Russian oil. I hope you are correct.

    I fear if they try and stand up militarily against the U.S. (NATO) they will be embarrassed into a nuclear exchange. Which is good for no one.
  8. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Russia is digging itself into a hole. They keep mouthing off about the 10 shot missile defense which only a moron would see as any threat to a russian missile armory numbered in the thousands. Rhetoric can come back and really bite.
  9. ThaBigP

    ThaBigP New Member

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    What concerns me is that Russia is indifferent to their perception around the world, basically daring the world to do anything about it. A popular saying in Russia right now, from what I've heard, is that "Russia has two allies - her army and her navy". That tells you a lot about the national psychology of Russia at the moment.

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