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Scout's Big Prediction: Hanna Contributes More Than Escobar

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by jobberone, Jul 6, 2013.

  1. CowboysYanksLakers

    CowboysYanksLakers Well-Known Member

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    Indeed!
  2. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    He's here for STs, and to absorb some snaps in training camp. That's fine, though, because we can use that.
  3. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    The success rate on second rounders is less than 40%.

    Bennett was a project that was unable to do much more than be a body catcher and a walking tip drill. Fasano was average and didn't translate after Parcells moved on.

    We have a new TE coach and hopefully Escobar works out better. The way people are freaking out about it being a second round pick borders on superstition.
  4. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    Escobar is certainly going to be a redzone target. Completely different TE to Hanna. I'm excited about both of these guys. I'm really high on Hanna. He has great hands and speed.

  5. jobberone

    jobberone Orangutan for hire; blues and southern rock Staff Member

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    Any further discussion along these lines by anybody should be via PMs rather than detract from the thread.
  6. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    The main point is that he should not be included in discussion about the need or lack of need to draft Escobar.
  7. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    That music... Really?
  8. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking the same thing. I just pulled that off youtube... that music was painful.. I just muted it and watched the highlights. lol
  9. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Lol. That was my first thought, too.
  10. jobberone

    jobberone Orangutan for hire; blues and southern rock Staff Member

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    If you plan on running the 13 much then you have to have 4 TEs and another on speed dial. I agree with xwalker. Escobar and Hanna are different players who will at times be asked to do different things or at least to represent different skill sets that require a DC to consider and match up. I think Rosario will be on STs but is here primarily as a back up and as a move blocker. He will have to be accounted for as a receiver whether he is just blocking or not. The defense shouldn't know the play. I personally think he is a better F back than any of the other TEs although I don't feel that strongly about it.
  11. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    If they use much 13, then hopefully they pass often. I don't like the 13 as a run formation. There is not much room to run with everybody bunched together and the TEs don't have a blocking advantage against base defensive personnel. If they do run from that formation, I would use and OL like Kowalski as one of the TEs.
  12. jobberone

    jobberone Orangutan for hire; blues and southern rock Staff Member

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    I agree unless they start moving them once they get the personnel on the field they want. Then the playbook opens up some. Get the heavies on the field then move one or two.
  13. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    Hanna's ability to play F or split wide is going to get him a ton of snaps. Everyone is consumed with the 12 package, but really the ultimate goal is to find 11 players who can potentially be used in any combination of pesonnel alignments. This is especially true if the Cowboys have moved to a Perkins terminology to facilitate no huddle, hurry up and simplified play calling. The Cowboys are going to want a fluid group of personnel that can line up in any formation based on a single call from play to play. Naturally this is likely going to involve versatile tight ends and doing away with the fullback. You can line up or motion Hanna to F, but can't split out Vickers in the slot. At least not in any way that's a credible threat to the defense.
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  14. jobberone

    jobberone Orangutan for hire; blues and southern rock Staff Member

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    I'd forgotten about the change in terminology which really is a biggie. And I agree about Hanna playing the F/H as well as Rosario. Hopefully Witten will get in a few and Escobar will learn to block well enough.
  15. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Yes, they're different players, so this is kind a silly.

    But who would be upset if Hanna contributed more, as long as it was a big contribution. Isn't that the point.

    Rookies don't usually make big differences out of the gate anyway statistically.
  16. Doc50

    Doc50 Original Fan Zone Supporter

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    Agreed.
    Hannah just may be a difference-maker this year by being a TE/WR/slot swingman -- defenses will have some difficult containment decisions.
    If they man up, it will take a corner; LB's will have real trouble with him.
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  17. jobberone

    jobberone Orangutan for hire; blues and southern rock Staff Member

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    I see Hanna as more of a f or h but ur right they're all receivers and ur looking to dictate to the defense then exploit the matchups.
  18. Ultimategamer5567

    Ultimategamer5567 Member

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    I take it you're not much of a fan of Canadian musicians. ;)
  19. newlander

    newlander Well-Known Member

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    ..............agree 100%..........I LOVE me some Hanna. Think the could could really pan out. Like the pick of Escobar from the standpoint JW is getting up there: still great but probly has 2 very good years left: maybe 3.

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