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Shanny and the Skins

Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by dcjules, Jan 6, 2010.

  1. dcjules

    dcjules Member

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    I know alot of you posters dont agree, but watching the press conf with Shannahan kinda makes me feel as if we may someday regret it. This season was a catch 22, hoping wade would go, but knowing that would mean a terrible season. But I think it was a rara opportunity to get a "great" HC. I dont want to hear about only winning win Elway etc... Did Belichek win before Brady, Landry before Staubach, JJ before Aikman, Walsh before Montana, its all the same....To me he is a great HC, someone I would have loved to see on the sideline.....Props to Wade, Go Cowboys.....I only hope 3 yrs from now were not stuck with Stoops or someother stiff.....Maybe Garrett is the next wonder boy, lets hope!!! just lets hope we didnt miss out by the circumstances of our success....weird just saying it, our success could hurt us!!
  2. cowboys2233

    cowboys2233 Well-Known Member

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    But you hit the nail on the head -- all the great coaches you mentioned had great QBs. Yes, I agree with you that Shanny is a good coach, but he'll have to get a great QB before he makes much noise...

    ...and they're not easy to find at all.
  3. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    Actually, yes, Landry "won" before Staubach. He went to three straight Championship games then won the fourth year. Now if you are simply talking championships then you might have a point, but a winning coach? Yes, Landry had won and was very good before Staubach.
  4. GloryDaysRBack

    GloryDaysRBack Well-Known Member

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    Shanny was not going to coach anywhere without having the power to control football operations..it is a known fact that he is clueless in that role..THANK the LORD he doesnt have that power in big D
  5. TVMan

    TVMan Active Member

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    Don't we have a playoff game coming up? You'd think that the season is over.

    Look, Shanny in the division only makes it better overall. I would much rather beat the heck out of a good Redskins team than a bad one.

    You can't live in fear of what the other guys in the division have.
  6. viman96

    viman96 Thread Killer

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    I'm regretting Shanny is coaching the skins. I am very concerned for our DL and LBs getting cut blocked and getting seriously hurt.
  7. reddyuta

    reddyuta Well-Known Member

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    i dont know if any QBs in the upcoming draft will be "the one ".they are destined to the doldrums for the next 2 years atleast.
  8. RXP

    RXP Well-Known Member

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    I've heard Maurice Clarett wants to play again.
  9. RainMan

    RainMan Makin' It Rain

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    Two things.

    1) You say you don't want to hear about him not winning without Elway, and then cite guys like Landry and Jimmy and Walsh. And how many of those guys went on to win Super Bowls without Montana, Staubach and Aikman? I think Shanahan is a good coach, but good coaches are made great in this league when paired with elite players at the most important positions. If Shanahan can unearth the next Elway, yeah, he might have success. If not, he probably won't.

    2) To me, it's a ridiculous notion to suggest maybe we should have wished for a poor season -- as opposed to an 11-5, division-winning year -- just so Wade could get canned and begin a cycle again. Redskins fans at this stage are hoping Shanahan can position them to get to where we're at right now. I don't see why we should wish for a role reversal to be in their shoes.
  10. DCBoysfan

    DCBoysfan Hardwork and Dedication Zone Supporter

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    Nothing that teams does concern me, I get concern about the iggles and gnats but the skins, no concern at all. Shanny the same coach who traded for the entire Cleveland Browns Dline LOL.
  11. ThreeSportStar80

    ThreeSportStar80 Benched

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    Wow... Everyone is drinking the Shanahan Kool-Aid I see. Washington has a lot of work!
  12. Hook'em#11

    Hook'em#11 Well-Known Member

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    Just say no to RAT BOY SHANNY..


    Gibbs had mass success as a deadskins coach prior Snyder, came back and did nothing.

    I don't fear the deadskins nor Rat Boy. Never will.
  13. SkinsHokieFan

    SkinsHokieFan Well-Known Member

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    More work then you can even imagine. Looks like Shanahan and Allen have a good grasp of what needs to be done

    A few good things

    1) Snyder not being on stage

    2) Bruce Allen and Shanahan saying Snyder has no role in football decisions (this was on the John Thompson show after)

    3) Discipline

    4) Going away for training camp

    This is going to take a little while...
  14. Joshmvii

    Joshmvii Cowboys baby!

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    The fact of the matter is we already have a good head coach, along with a good coaching staff, and A CHANCE TO PLAY IN THE SUPER BOWL THIS SEASON.

    So hell no this season is not a catch 22. I don't ever want Shanahan coaching the Cowboys.
  15. THEHEREAFTER

    THEHEREAFTER Well-Known Member

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    Shanny was a failure his last year in Denv and will fail in Washington.
  16. Pottsville Maroons

    Pottsville Maroons Member

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    Sadly, that's a very real concern. That technique is a major reason why I hate the broncos and will only deepen my hatred for the skins.
  17. Lostboy

    Lostboy New Member

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    I believe that coaches are usually good at only one or two aspects of the game, rarely more. Shannahan is a good motivator and X/O guy. I lived in Boulder for a long time and watched him lead the Broncos. Yep, they won 2 Superbowls. But with one of the alltime great QBs in Elway, a dominant running game (Terrell Davis), and a very stout D. Same story when he was OC in SF with a great team...

    When the cycle ran out, players (Elway) retired, schemes changed but he didn't change well. Same story for his short time in Oakland where he & his staff didn't develop players well.

    My bet is he develops a mediocre team with a strong offense and weak defense. Lots of 7-9 records, 8-8s, 9-7s with the occasional playoff spot. His MO in Denver was ambivalance towards defense, continually changing DCs and and D philosophies. It takes a while to get personnel to fit a scheme and implement it, and Denver's records post-Elway reflected his lack of D focus.

    For Dallas, the impact will be a better skins team than under Zorn, but not a whole lot better. And, how long do you think Danny is going to stay hand's off? :)
  18. dfense

    dfense Well-Known Member

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    After Elway and Davis were done in Denver, Shanahan won ONE playoff game the next nine years.
  19. AMERICAS_FAN

    AMERICAS_FAN Active Member

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    I'm not impressed by WCO coordinators, turned coach, sorry.

    That's an inferior scheme designed to coddle marginal QBs.

    Without Elway, Shanahhan only won one playoff game diring his entire coaching career. Almost all of those years came without playoff appearances.

    But you don't want to hear about him without Elway. How about the fact that, along with Elway, he also had a HOF RB? You think he'll ever have that in Washington?

    Me? ...I'm happy this guy ended up in Washington, and I'm glad he's not becoming a Cowboy because I was in the minority camp that was on the side of NOT ever wanting him.
  20. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    I don't know if I really understand this argument.

    Most coaches struggle when they don't have a decent Quarterback.

    And yes, Tom Landry did have success before Staubach, but the Quarterback before Roger wasn't a bad player.

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