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Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Wolverine, Oct 11, 2005.

  1. mrecktid

    mrecktid New Member

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    Guys, Julius Jones IS and WILL be the starter as long as he is HEALTHY.

    Even if TT does great in his debut and rushes for 120 yds and a couple scores. The ONLY chance he has of upseating Julius is if Julius goes on IR.

    Look at Priest Holmes and Larry Johnson, Johnson is a beast in there and gets tons of touches, yards, and scores. But everyone KNOWS Priest is their #1 guy.

    Julius is our guy.
  2. jay cee

    jay cee Active Member

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    No one has said that Thompson is the 2nd coming of Dickerson. And in case you hadn't noticed, neither is Julius Jones.
  3. Tyler Durden

    Tyler Durden New Member

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    Ok, I thought about it.

    Yep, JJ would still be the unquestioned starter.
  4. JackMagist

    JackMagist The Great Communicator

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    Why would we start A-Train? Do we want our running game in the toilet for some reason? The guy got run out of Chicago and now I know why...he is too slow and he can find the hole. Parcells didn't bring him in for a heart to heart talk because he has been tearing it up for us; he has done nothing. If we really want to lose then we should go ahead and start Thomas because we would have NO running game.

    Barber hasn't shown anything either so that leaves Tyson Thompson as the only RB beside Julius to show up for us. TT may not be the elusive back that we would like him to be but he does have that blinding speed and he can make some things happen with it. He also has the ability to actually find the hole when it opens; something A-Train hasn't managed.
  5. LUVDABOYS

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    Maybe it's just me, but after the whooping we gave Phily in the first half Sunday I think any of our backs would have looked like superstars. Emmitt was often slowed to fewer yards in the first half of games, but in the second half after our big offensive line wore teams down, he would put on the yards.
    That I believe is exactly what happened Sunday. Our passing game and big lineman opened up the run game. I seriously believe if Julius had been healthy and had as many carries as TT in that second half, he would have run for at least 80 yards. I'm not trying to downplay what TT did, I love that we have a decent backup for Julius and give him Kudos for how he played. But to think he's going to replace Julius anytime soon is rediculous IMO.
  6. Verdict

    Verdict Well-Known Member

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    I see your perspective, but I can't buy into that argument. Here is why. Last year, Julius Jones was essentially the main (and almost only) weapon in our arsenal last year. Last year he had Vinnie Testaverde as his QB, which didn't exactly strike fear in our opponents. Despite these impediments Julius Jones lit it up last year. This year he has a pretty good (or better) supporting cast, including a QB that is currently playing at a probowl level. He has not fared nearly as well this year, despite the fact that he has a much better offensive line to run berhind.
  7. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Ever occur to you that Buffalo is not that good of a team and when they got rid of some of Bledsoe weapons his game went down hill? Bledsoe 1st season in Buffalo was very good but as they lost players it had a big effect on Bledsoe. Right now the Buffalo still has these problems and it is once again affecting them in a negative way. Bledsoe became the scape goat for what was wrong with the Bills, well Drew is gone and the problems still exists!!! Yet Drew is having a great season right now with Dallas, he was not the problem
  8. dbair1967

    dbair1967 Arch Defender

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    Bledsoe was very good his first half of a season in Buffalo, then thinks went downhill fast

    I dont care how some of you want to spin it, but Bledsoe had some good talent around him...their OL wasnt as good as ours, but he had WR's and RB's, and he had a very very good defensive team

    he is having an amazing year here for us so far, but he looked done when he came to Dallas in 2003 and lost that 10-6 game, he also looked done to me last yr in that season finale vs Pittsburgh's (mostly) backups

    David
  9. dbair1967

    dbair1967 Arch Defender

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    this isnt the same OL, nor are we running the same plays, nor are we playing the same opponents...other than SF, every team we've faced so far this yr has been pretty good to excellent at stopping the run

    further, teams who have had to play us I'm sure spent tons of time breaking down JJ on tape and seeing his tendancies and strengths...they've clearly game planned to stop him...

    David
  10. dbair1967

    dbair1967 Arch Defender

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    I never said Jones was, I said he's alot better than Tyson Thompson

    and yeah, there've been posts from people comapring Tyson Thompson to some excellent RB's like Dickerson, and thats laughable right now

    David
  11. Verdict

    Verdict Well-Known Member

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    Last year Jones had a 4.2 yards per carry. This year his production has declined to 3.6 yards per carry. I dont see how opposing defenses could have keyed in on him last year more than they did. We were pretty one dimensional last year. I want to see Julius Jones succeed as a Cowboy fan. But truthfully speaking, to this point in the season, he is not as good as he was last year.

    Is Tyson Thompson better? Who really knows at this point. It is possible he will be better than Julius. We know he is faster than Julius. On the other hand he may turn out to be "fumbler" or just plain unsuccessful.

    I, for one, would love to see Thompson outplay Julius Jones, because Julius has shown that he is a good NFL back, which would make Thompson better than good.

    By the way, you are right about this not being the same offensive line we had last year. This year's offensive line is MUCH better than last year's version. Julius SHOULD be doing better behind a better line, but statistically speaking, SO FAR, he is not as good as last year.
  12. jem88

    jem88 Active Member

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    We should always remember the Hambrick lesson. Big back with size and speed who looked great coming in as a backup. However, when the defense was focused on him, it became a very different story. As of now, I have no reason to believe that Thompson is anything more than another Troy Hambrick (with a good attitude.)
  13. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    if TT does extremely well subbing for Julius, think about it, if he does really well on Sunday, the coaching staff may keep Julius out a couple more games to get back to 100%, we have a huge trade possibility in the making
  14. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Trade? If Thompson does well why would we want to trade him? I would like to think we can keep some talented players on the team for a change
  15. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't see Thompson as a staple player, per say. If the right offer came along, I would trade him but I wouldn't just trade him for nothing.
  16. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    For the money we are spending on him which is not much I keep the guy. Now granted I think every player is tradable for the right price but if Thompson shows himself as a quality RB then it would take a heck of a lot. I see other teams that have 2 quality RB and it never fails that they ended up needing both guys because it always seem 1 goes down.
  17. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I agree, but I also believe that Barber is going to eventually be a good back. I also like many of the backs coming out. I would trade him if the price was right.
  18. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I hope your right about Barber. I have not seen anything from him reg season or pre-season that made me feel great about him. On the other hand Thompson has shown some ability. I have not given up on Barber but I tend to expect to see some flashes from the RB position even if we are talking rookie.
  19. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    His O-line sucks big time and I don't care who the QB if the line sucks the QB is going to suffer. Add to that Mike full of Mularkey is a p!ss poor coach and again Bledsoe was doing very good job before that hack took over the team. Also as I mentioned above the Bills used Bledsoe as the scape goat for what was wrong with that team and the fact is those problems still exists and the reason why is they are not as good as some are trying to claim. Bledsoe is showing the problem at Buffalo was not him but the Bills team is the problem and is still a problem today
  20. dbair1967

    dbair1967 Arch Defender

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    ok, whatever....

    David

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