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Photo: Stephen White Tweets: Lions didn't do anything special to take Dez away, he was open alot

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by WoodysGirl, Oct 29, 2013.

  1. Section444

    Section444 Well-Known Member

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    He's always been pressured, and has done fine. He's just not right the last few games, he's either injured, or age is finally coming for him.
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  2. Fletch

    Fletch To The Moon

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    That makes no sense considering Dez was indeed open and clearing the zone quite often. The design is working. Perhaps Tony is not on target with better decision making. Hmm?
  3. tko112204

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    Is it that hard to figure out really? Arguing over whether or not Detroit's defense is good or not is pointless. It's obvious what they're good at, and what Dallas isn't good at.

    Fairley and Suh are the best players they have. The interior of Dallas' OL is the weakest part of the offense. They're not a good matchup for us and won't be until something changes.

    And despite all of our "terribleness", if Scandrick doesn't turn Durham loose down the sideline, or if Smith doesn't commit one of the dumbest holds I've ever seen, we still win.

    Detroit's a good team, that we match up poorly with, and we lost by one, on the road, in the 2nd of back-to-back road games.

    Some of you are losing your minds.
  4. dstovall5

    dstovall5 Well-Known Member

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    There's a difference between being "pressured" and being pressured half the time you throw. Without knowing the stats atm, I'd be willing to bet that Romo was under pressure the most he's been all season long in that Lions game.

    You honestly believe age caught up to him in 21 days?! Wow, I hope you're kidding ... That's some serious aging, especially since the Denver game was 3 weeks ago and Tony lit it up. Tony didn't take as much shots in that game if any, in the Detroit game he took TWO big shots right off. That does rattle a QB you know?
  5. Rack Bauer

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    That's exhaggerating just a bit. He has time to complete passes, but when the DL is getting pushed into you you're limited to what routes you can throw to. If he had held the ball a bit longer to let a deeper route to develop and ended up throwing an INT the "Fans" would explode about how bad Tony Romo sucks.

    Double edged sword. Best way to avoid it is to 1) get a real play caller that knows how to get your star WR involved in the freaking game plan w/o having to run 15+ yard routes and/or 2) block the freaking pass rush.

    JMO
  6. Ultra Warrior

    Ultra Warrior 6 Million Light-years beyond believability.

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    Who the hell is Stephen White? Never mind. He's an idiot.
  7. Section444

    Section444 Well-Known Member

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    If it was only the Lions game, I wouldn't be concerned. It's been the Redskins game, Eagles game, and the Lions game.
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  8. Rack Bauer

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    The design of the play isn't just about "Getting the guy open" it's about getting the guy open within the OL's capability to protect the QB. For another words, you might be able to get Dez or TWill open 15 yards or more down the field, but if the OL isn't able to keep the pressure off the QB long enough to throw those routes then the design of the play is flawed.
  9. percyhoward

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    And Romo had a 143.6 rating when he wasn't pressured anyway.
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  10. Galian Beast

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    It's not just the routes, but rather the intended progression. If Dez is running a route he might not be the primary receiver on the play, especially if he is running a longer route.

    From what I've heard from the media (for what that is worth these days) Romo goes through his progressions pretty quickly.

    Theory, you combine poor pass protection and a long route, and romo isn't going to get to Dez, and he is going to have to checkdown.
  11. Clove

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    Romo has time a lot, but his Stans, or whatever you guys call it - What does that mean anyways? Anyways, his love crew will make excuses every chance they get. It used to be upsetting, now it's just pathetically sad.
  12. Ender

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    Stan is Eminem song about an obsessive fan. And I agree with you
  13. Ender

    Ender Well-Known Member

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    I've said many times that stats don't matter. I never really cared about Romo's picks. Thats justbgonna happen
  14. percyhoward

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    In the game, Romo was 13 of 19 205 yd 3 td 0 int 143.6 when he wasn't pressured. So, all we really end up saying is that we wanted more of that 143.6 to be on passes to Dez, for some reason. Anything else is a protection issue. Within that, we could argue whether Romo should be better than a 39.6 when the pass protection breaks down, but that's got nothing to do with Dez.
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  15. Ender

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    Where did you get that stat from ?
  16. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    PFF. Not talking about their subjective ratings, just the pressure/no pressure stats.
  17. tko112204

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    All these guys that call people that defend Romo "Stans" and all this other nonsense don't realize they are doing the exact same thing. You think Romo doesn't WANT to throw the ball to Bryant? Of course he does. But he's also going to spread it around when he has time to make sound decisions. I'll be damned if I care who helps make up that 143.6, no matter who's on my fantasy team.

    Somehow Dez is becoming bigger than the team to them, and they want the ball thrown to him regardless of situation, play design, coverage, or pass protection. They want him to be Megatron, and frankly, that hasn't gotten the Lions very far. If we didn't have such a dreadful OL, Romo would have more time to get EVERYONE the ball, but we don't. So he does what he can do. And in almost every game this year, that's been enough to win.

    But it's more fun to make up scenarios in which the QB doesn't WANT to throw the ball to his most explosive weapon. Which makes no sense at all.
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  18. juck

    juck Well-Known Member

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    Well Romo is no Brady,Manning or Brees. I think we all know that by now. Although his salary states he is.
  19. ConstantReboot

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    Its not that Romo doesn't want to get the ball to Dez. He does. However, the scheme is dictated to go to a certain player. Even Dez mentioned that he knew where the ball was going to to. If thats the case, its not the players fault. Its the system.
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  20. birdwells1

    birdwells1 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Uh 2 bad offenses with bad qbs vs 2 good offenses with good qbs, that may have a little something to do with it.

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