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Substance seeping back into the NFL

Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by erod, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Like you, I'm giddy over 2-1, wishing Bruce Carter or Dez Bryant would have made "that play" to put us to 3-0. Just as much, I'm relishing in the ineptitude and disaster of our divisional brethren. Are you kidding me? 38-0? How glorious. RG0andIII. Philly headed to 1-3 shortly. Amen.
    But perhaps my favorite development thus far is the early implosion of the blasphemous read option. It ain't working too good, and I love it.
    Colin Kaepernick not only can't get the edge, he can't get back to the line of scrimmage. He was losing five yards a pop against Indy when they ran it, so they abandoned it, and he looks grossly lost since. It really hurts my heart. (Giggle)
    Terrelle Pryor got concussed. RG3 can't even do it right now because he got hurt doing it before. Vick is getting hammered in Kelly's communist offense, yards or not, as defensive coordinators are wising up fast. Russell Wilson is a real quarterback and doesn't rely on it, so the Seahawks still have it in their bag of tricks, but not as a staple.
    Not good news for Johnny Manziel and his ilk, or any team that was breaking bad that direction.
    I hoped and believed the league would catch up to this dumbed-down high school junk, but I sure thought it would take longer. Apparently, the key was fairly simple. Basically, you stay in a 4-3, move your end and tackle over a gap on the QB keep side, and drop the OLB on that side back a bit. Done. That's an oversimplification, I'm sure, but that's the nutshell version.
    Then, you brutally punish the quarterback whether he keeps it or not. In fact, that threat alone is influencing teams to get away from it. It's just not worth the risk, especially with the rewards drying up. Now that it's been schemed and neutralized, the 49ers have 10 total points in two weeks and are vowing to get back to their power run attack.
    Plus, such an offense requires TWO quarterbacks that can run it, so you're not bumping into walls if you lose your starter. A team has to install two offenses, just in case.
    It'll always work in college, where the talent differential is usually huge among teams, and players in general, on the field. But in the NFL, where everybody is good, it comes down to scheme, risk, health, and strategy.
    So I raise my glass high....to the impending abolition of this demonic practice! May it be banished to the memories of the Run-and-Shoot, Wing-T, Wildcat, and Parachute Pants.
    Salut!
  2. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    You are completely off base about Manziel.
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  3. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Love the thread. That gimmick crap offense wasn't about to last. To be a real NFL franchise QB you have to excel within the pocket.
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  4. bark

    bark Well-Known Member

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    I'm with you erod.... I'm a Neanderthal when it comes to the nfl. I like big boy football
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  5. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    Funny how all the Redskin fans who were talking it up in the off season have suddenly disappeared.
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  6. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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  7. basstapp

    basstapp Well-Known Member

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    Manziel can throw the ball and is extremely elusive. I agree with everything, but the negative outlook on Manziel
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  8. Titleist

    Titleist Well-Known Member

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    I said it at the end of last season and I'll say it again: a good pocket passer QB never goes out of style.
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  9. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Too small, too stupid, too inaccurate, too full of himself.

    He'll go down with the Andre Wares, David Klinglers, Tim Couches, and Todd Marinoviches.

    Complete bust.
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  10. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    You are completely wrong. Stop believing every line fed to you by BSPN.
  11. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    Wait, I just read your line that he is "too inaccurate." Hahahaha! He completed over 70% of his passes against Bama! You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
  12. StarBoyz83

    StarBoyz83 Well-Known Member

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    Manziel can maybe be a decent nfl qb. He'll throw a lot of interceptions his first few years though. a lot!!!
  13. iceman117

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    I'm not sure he will be a bust, I think he will be somewhere between where you both think he will be. He won't be a terrible quarterback like erod is saying but I'm not see what The Romosexual is seeing either, he definitely will not be the first QB selected this come April that will be Teddy Bridgewater no doubt about it. Then Taj Boyd(Clemson),AJ McCarron(BAMA),Brett Hudley (UCLA),Kevin Hogan (Stanford), Marcus Mariota (Oregon) all can be equal or greater prospects than Manziel without the attitude. I'm interested to see where Manziel gets drafted. It can be anywhere from the second pick all the way to the third or 4th round. There are some pretty good QBs coming out this year. So if he goes in the second/third/fourth round I don't see him being viewed as a bust.
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  14. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    love that Barry Church is getting some love on here, he is turning into a heck of a safety
  15. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Even Alabama isn't full of NFL caliber players at every position on defense.

    Manziel will get broken in half in the NFL. That is, if he doesn't drink his way out of the league by himself. He will implode on his own through his wreckless behavior. He's Von Miller without the NFL talent.

    But never mind. You Aggies cling to your own and make excuses like nobody's business.
  16. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    way, way, way, over-rated
  17. Staubacher

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    Staying away from the Manzielly thingy...I love the quick demise of the read option. I expected it would fall quickly but like Erod I thought it would take at least a half season or so.

    Wilson actually doesn't need it - he is kinda like a young Romo in that he can be mobile around the pocket and make good throws on the move without necessarily scrambling. Also it helps he has a dominant defense and solid all around team to lessen his load.

    RG3 is doing what he can to stay relevant as a passer, but it's just sad and even scary to see a guy that young with jacked up knees running around in a brace like a kid in the 1930s with polio
  18. Staubacher

    Staubacher Well-Known Member

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    I've renamed my couch The Pew - because I love sitting there on Sundays and watching Church!


    Also because I break wind a lot during games...
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  19. Lonestar94

    Lonestar94 Well-Known Member

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    Johnny Manziel is only 20 years old. Hes a freaking KID! Give him about 3 years and I think he will be a good player in the NFL.
  20. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    lol, nice double edged sword, well played

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