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The Evolution of Jerry Jones The Cowboys GM In The Red Garrett Era

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by WPBCowboysFan, Apr 18, 2014.

  1. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    Quoted for truth
  2. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    The 2012 offseason stands as one of, if not the worst of the Jerry era.

    This occurred during Albino Landry's tenure of secret responsibilities hidden behind hollow titles.

    So....like.....I'm not buying it.
  3. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Like I said, you can live in your fantasy world all you want.

    However, I would think you would show a little more respect to the ones that don't share your fantasy interpretation. Calling other posters that happen to agree with my position over yours "disappointed teenagers" is you letting your emotions get the better of you.
  4. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Funny, nobody else seems to have any trouble following along.
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  5. jobberone

    jobberone Genetically engineered moderating Orangutan Staff Member

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    That''s as out of context as most of your posts so.....I'll take that FWIW
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  6. PA Cowboy Fan

    PA Cowboy Fan Well-Known Member

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    It's all a show. As long as he's entertained. He just loves being in the spotlight good or bad. Same as the Cowboys.
  7. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    Well, it must be working because you are still here.
  8. PA Cowboy Fan

    PA Cowboy Fan Well-Known Member

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    You got me there. lol
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  9. Vanilla2

    Vanilla2 Well-Known Member

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    It's all part of the show.
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  10. birdwells1

    birdwells1 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    The thing is that when other gms take the blame they lose their jobs.
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  11. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    I appreciate the permission to not share your intentional misrepresentations. That'll really come in handy if your opinion doesn't change in coming seasons.

    And I didn't say every unhappy fan who agrees with you is a disappointed teenager. I'm simply commenting that some of them pretty obviously are. That's a function of how they communicate and not a comment on them being hopeful or hopeless about the current state of the Cowboys. It's not a callout by any stretch. Merely an observation.
  12. Vanilla2

    Vanilla2 Well-Known Member

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    Nothing you can do about it.

    His team

    His rules.

    We're all along for the ride
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  13. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    well you could put up a jones sucks website. or billboard. or just rage on as if it helps.
  14. Vanilla2

    Vanilla2 Well-Known Member

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    I'll just waste my money on loose women and other illicit activities.
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  15. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    that's a waste????
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  16. Vanilla2

    Vanilla2 Well-Known Member

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    To guys like us no.

    But there are folks who think anti jerry billboards and websites are a worthwhile expenditure.
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  17. NumOneQB

    NumOneQB Active Member

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    LOL @ your avatar!!! That is freakin' hilarious. Made my day, no doubt.
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  18. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    I believe that there are signs of progress.

    Has Jerry done a complete 180? No, but there are signs of progress.

    Should Garrett get credit for all progress? No, but he is an influence in the right direction. IMO, Garrett pushes to do things the right way and is joined by Stephen Jones and probably others in the organization. I think Stephen Jones and the people that work for him on the salary cap issues have been in favor of being conservative for a long time. Garrett just adds 1 significant voice to their side.

    I think the catastrophe with the Ratliff situation followed up by the drastic injury issues might have pushed Jerry over the edge and forced him to get on board with the Garrett/Stephen side of being conservative. My guess is that Garrett/Stephen were not in favor of the 2nd new contract that Jerry gave Ratliff a couple of years ago.

    Since Garrett has been the Head Coach, they had been getting younger and shedding the big contracts.
    Gone:
    Roy (WR) Williams
    Barber
    Bigg
    Gurode
    Bradie James
    Keith Brooking
    Sensabaugh
    Newman

    Ware
    Ratliff
    Hatcher
    Austin

    The questionable moves during Garrett's tenure:
    2nd new contract for Ratliff
    Trade up for Claiborne
    Signing Carr to a big contract
    Romo's contract

    IMO, I'll take those questionable decisions any day over:
    Trading a 1st, 3rd and 7th (the 1st and 3rd were not enough, they needed a 7th).
    Giving Roy Williams a new contract for 9M+ per year after the trade.
    Trading two 1st for Joey Galloway
    Giving Miles Austin a 9M per year contract when he probably would have received about half that much as a free agent.
    Drafting Shante Carver in the 1st round.
    Not drafting Randy Moss.
    Drafting Ekuban in the 1st round.
    Etc..

    The only remaining players over 30 are Romo, Witten and the long snapper. I think Free is right at 30.

    The salary cap situation is going to be better in 2015 than it has been in long time. The dead money will be at it's lowest in several years with an expected number of about 5.5M as compared to 30M just a couple of years ago.

    Summary: Jerry is not going anywhere. It seems that Garrett is the best Head Coach for Jerry. A coach like Parcells causes Jerry to need to make a big splash to get attention (i.e signing TO, etc.). A coach like Wade puts up Zero resistance to anything that Jerry wants to do (i.e. trade for Roy Williams).
  19. Boom

    Boom Just Dez It

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    These sound like steps that should translate into more success. I'm excited to see the improved winning record and playoff victories next year.
  20. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Good post X. I also believe we have seen some progress, but the "Jerrry Sux" Club wont acknowledge it. What makes it hard for some to see, or accept, is that the PROCESS has been slow and the trainee HC factor make it seem pretty much a non existent.

    Personally, I think Red _ should be gone after this year if we dont see significant improvement. I like the good things he's done, but it still comes down to wins, and 4 1/2 yrs will have been long enough to see if we have actually turned a corner. Jerry prob keeps Red no matter the outcome of the season, but at some point the bottom line has to factor in.

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