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Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by IAmLegend, May 27, 2013.

  1. jblaze2004

    jblaze2004 Well-Known Member

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    yeah, garrett doesn't do a good job playing to guys strengths. Instead he makes them change his game to fit the sytem. Did i mention I hate garretts offensive scheme?
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  2. theSHOW

    theSHOW Benched

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    Not ready to make any decision yet but Dallas needs a DT and a OG pretty bad.
  3. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    I understand the pros and cons but it's getting harder and harder for me to believe he can't play on the NFL... especially with some of the stiffs who have gotten a shot.
  4. Clove

    Clove Shrinkage

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    The guy is playing with 1 receiver and one lineman. That's it. So what he's doing with basically no talent around him is astonishing.
  5. funkytown

    funkytown Well-Known Member

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    I saw it. Manziel is amazing.

    He does some crazy stuff on the field,and i'm not sure how it will work for him in the NFL but he will be exciting to watch. His athletic abilities are elite, but I really enjoy his passion and leadership abilities. If a team can control all of that passion and keep him out of trouble off the field he will be a star.
  6. jblaze2004

    jblaze2004 Well-Known Member

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    especially since Romo get injuried yearly now. Might be wise to invest in a qb like him to learn for a year. I always believe if you have a young QB have a vet backup. and if you have a Old qb have a younger back up. We have a old qb and a old high priced back up smh. Talk about waste of valuable CAP money.

    I think if you have a old qb, get a young qb to teach the robes slowly. Let him mature. If romo hangs them up we better hope we luck into another good qb.
  7. Titleist

    Titleist Active Member

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    Geez, reactionary are we? His style of play, like RG3 and Vick's, does not translate well to the NFL. He's going to be injured every year running around like that.

    Besides, we have more pressing needs than QB anyway.
  8. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    Take Manziel, I will never trust a heisman QB. I would rather go for DL in the 1st QB 2nd maybe McCarron, then OL/DL unless there is a stud safety that falls to us.
  9. GloryDaysRBack

    GloryDaysRBack Well-Known Member

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    Lolol at your awful comparisons. Money tosses the ball far better than bob and Vick.
  10. TheCoolFan

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    I have doubts about his size BUT I think if you have a smart coaching staff on offense, they'll develop him to become more of a passer and not a runner. The thing with RG3 is that he is a damn good pocket passer but Shanahan overexposed him as a runner in that Read-Option offense. It doesn't matter how fast your QB is, there's no reason why a 6'1" or smaller QB should ever have 100+ rushing attempts in a season. Same goes for Vick...all that running and punishment he took in his younger days in Atlanta finally caught up to him when he came back with Philly.

    QBs like RG3 and Manziel should be expected to develop like Aaron Rodgers. Can beat you with his legs for a first down but only as a last option if nothing is open. If you look at Rodgers' numbers, he usually averages around 50-60 rushing attempts a season, which is way less than the 90+ that you get from the likes of Vick and RG3. Steve Young is another great example.
  11. LatinMind

    LatinMind iPhotoshop

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    Manziel is the opposite of what Dallas needs. If you think Romo tries to play hero you will die watching Manziel throw ints in the nfl. His low throwing motions are going to be a DB heaven for anything thrown outside. Not to mention he's probably shorter than Wilson and he's 5'11. Wilson is successful because he had great mechanics and he plays within the system. Safe. Manziel is the opposite.
  12. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    we have seen exactly this type of QB before. Andre Ware and others - no real difference except this one is hyped more because everyone is hyped more.
  13. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    I like this kid a lot. I do. He's fun to watch.

    I'm skeptical of his translation to the NFL and doing anything worth a first round pick.

    I could easily be wrong on it but right now I'm just not sold on him translating to the NFL well.
  14. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea if Manziel will succeed at the NFL level or not. That scares me. Usually I have an idea if a guy will fail. He is a bit unknown. I do have some doubts.

    The Vick comparison is a poor one. Vick can't throw the ball. He production as a passer has been poor his whole career, which isn't surprising since he really wasn't a passer in college.

    No thanks to McCarron. When Dallas does eventually decide to bring in a QB, I want a guy with upside. McCarron has none. He is what he is. He will be average at best. That can make for a good backup, but when Dallas brings in a young guy that QB needs to eventually be quality starter material. I don't see that in McCarron.
  15. spook930

    spook930 Active Member

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    I'm a fan but don't want him playing for my cowboys.... Don't see him lasting long in the NFL.
  16. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    The only position I'd pass on DL and OL for is a QB. Even if you don't keep him, you can spin him for other picks if you play it right. I don't think we're one draft away.

    That said, I think Manziel is going Top 10 anyway. We won't have a shot at him.
  17. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    Been on the bandwagon since before he ever took a snap at A&M.....but we can't take him with the way the team is right now.
  18. xwalker

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    He barely survived the spotlight at A&M with his questionable off field mental makeup. The spotlight on the QB of the Dallas Cowboys is much much more intense than anything in college football. There is a high probability that he would have have a Vince Young mental meltdown if drafted by the Cowboys.
  19. ninja

    ninja Numbnuts

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    Passing on Manziel, if he is there when the Cowboys pick, will be Randy Moss deja vu all over again. You HAVE to take him. The potential reward is worth the risk.

    Now, if Hundley is on the board also, then you have a tough choice. Personally, I'd go with Hundley. However, I doubt either is there when the Cowboys pick.
  20. GloryDaysRBack

    GloryDaysRBack Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean he barely survived? His play on the field never wavered. He handled the attention (on the field) well.

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