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The Walking Dead: The Return, Tonight!

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  1. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    I think by seasons end Tyrese will wind up in Ricks group and it will be a lot to do with fall out from the lady with him going with the Gov. I also think that the end of the season will see the death of Andrea because of the whole thing.
  2. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    That could be too.

    I think all the characters are expendable except for:

    Rick
    Carl
    Daryl
  3. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    Yeah I would think so. I'd think that those 3 will be characters they keep around till the very end.


    I also think that last nights episode started the process that I mentioned before with Merle trying to change into more of a good guy. You saw it with his converstations with Hershel and Michione. I believe his death will happen before years end as well and will push Daryl into an even large role by seasons end and the start of next season.
  4. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Yeah, I could see that too.

    Interesting about Herschel sticking up for Merle.
  5. anava

    anava Well-Known Member

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    I just watched from beginning to the current episode in about a week and a half. I am hooked but it is going to suck to actually have to wait a week for a new episode.
  6. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    It could go either way. I could see Merle working hard to rehabilitate his image, only to have him show his true colors at the end, and for him to actually be the snake he's been all along. Perhaps even making Darryl choose in a life or death situation between his brother and the group.
  7. Yeagermeister

    Yeagermeister Active Member

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    I have no doubt he's planning something. That's just the way he's wired.
  8. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    That definately could be. I wouldn't be shocked by that in the least. I just think it does more for the Daryl character, in the long run, if his brother is good and gets killed and pushes Daryl to a darker place.
  9. DemonBlood

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    I'm going to have to wait until season 4 for Abraham aren't I? :(

    Guess it's for the best because if he was on the show right now it would make the prison group to powerful against the Woodbury gang.
  10. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    A very good episode.

    No spoilers from me.

    You'll enjoy it when you see it!
  11. Yeagermeister

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    I agree and one I have been waiting a long time.
  12. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Liked it. There were some poetic parts to it. It was a bit of a sidetrack from the main plot, which is necessary every now and then. Not one of my favorites, though.
  13. iceberg

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    i've seen a lot of shows build to something. along the way, several questions unanswered.

    biggest question i have right now is - if you're gonna go search for weapons, why go home? and if home is that close, how did you "find" a prison when you lived what, an hour from it? when they first found the prison rick said the weapons were kept off site yet they've never gone to look for them.

    so let's go back to my old hometown, where i grew up believing...(art garfunkle reference, sorry) and look for weapons and handguns in bars where rick signed the permit. i still don't understand how the gap happened in finding the prison guard weapons, or how he can be in gas distance from home but never knew of where he is now, much less where the prison guns would be.

    that aside, tonight was amazing.

    it set the end to crazy rick. i think they took it too far and i count it as "filler" to the core.

    i also feel like the whole "morgan" thing was well written, poorly thought out. it's meant to advance a story, not be a part of it. while i'm glad rick finally "reloaded", i'd never have sold out morgan to get there. he's far too good a character to throw away for some smiley faced gernades and weapons we outlaw today.

    the guy with the backpack...how does he live for more than a year with a bright orange backpack only to die at a very convenient time? not sure what's in the backpack, but it sucked you go from "f everyone" to "maybe we should trust again" in 60 min.

    the character who grew the most tonight was obviously michonne. to another degree, carl. carl parkaeeted ricks view of michonne and that did a 180 in a matter of 20 minutes. but carl also was a road to getting michonne involved into the core. she's proved herself and rick has opened up.

    i'd never have sold out the potential of morgan for what we got tonight. sorry. dude traps zombies and burns them when he has enough. so how did he go around and gather the weapons he has? his traps are passive, his results, aggressive. poorly written and hopefully overlooked. i just hate the lack of consistency and "it's hollywood" to make lazy writing win.

    i love the fact carl is growing up, just tired of the afterthought in which he does.

    the latest theme is end the show on a thoughtful song cause thoughtfulness is gone from the script.

    this is still one of my favorite shows on TV. but it's starting to be a victim of it's own success and taking short cuts on logic, will catch up.
  14. Rack Bauer

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    I'm stock piling episodes right now so I can watch the rest together w/o having to wait a week. that way I only deal with the last cliff hanger. :)



  15. Stryker44

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    What happened to the guy Michionne ignored while trying to get them to stop the car and pick him up?

    Why didn't Morgan go with Rick?

    The episode made very little sense.
  16. MichaelWinicki

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    Ice, you make a good point about the "logic" aspect of the show and the lack there of...

    Yeah for the prison to be that close to his home and seemingly not know about it seems incredulous to me... And that problem is amplified because Rick was in law enforcement.

    Then you have the whole weapons cache thing that wasn't at the prison, even though it should be.

    As a side note I kept waiting for our survivors to find the prison library and make use of that, but nope. Hasn't happened and the place had to have a library.

    I'm still contemplating the whole "Morgan" aspect of the show.

    And you're right, for the orange backpack guy to get munched down at that point seems way too timely.

    A lot of this comes down to the point you've got about 42 minutes to tell the episode story and only 720 minutes for the season to cover what needs to be covered for everything they want to cover– and the shortness of time creates a lot of plot holes. Frank Darabont was better at filling in those plot holes, and that's how the plodding first half of season 2 came about.

    Now the writers are attacking this at lighning speed and the the holes come with it.
  17. Stryker44

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    What happened to the guy Michionne ignored while trying to get them to stop the car and pick him up?

    Why didn't Morgan go with Rick?

    The episode made very little sense.
  18. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    That guy was munched.

    Morgan is in his own "prison".
  19. Stryker44

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    Thanks...missed a few minutes towards the end.

    The gist I got with Morgan was that he blames himself for not killing his zombie wife when he had the chance, and then later his son embraced her and she bit their son and turned him into a zombie as well?
  20. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    That's pretty much the long & short of it.

    And that caused him to spiral into a dark place that made Rick look absolutely sane.

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