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TheCount's Mock V2.0 - Dee Ford Edition

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by TheCount, Apr 3, 2014.

  1. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    16 Dee Ford // DE // Auburn
    Has been growing on me more and more as the draft approaches. I think he's probably more of situational DE due to his size, but I wonder if he can play strong side linebacker as well.

    47 Scott Crichton // DE // Oregon State
    May very well go before pick 47, but there a lot to like about Crichton - size, motor, anchor, etc.

    78 Brandon Thomas // OG // Clemson
    I like that he has some flex at RT, but I'd plug him in right away at guard and let the kid play.

    119 Brandon Coleman // WR // Rutgers
    In the 4th round, this is an easy call for me. Coleman is huge and has proven himself to be a threat in the redzone.

    158 Caraun Reid // DT // Princeton
    Has the chance to rotate in while Melton holds down (hopefully) the 3-Tech spot, not need to rush him in but he's got talent.

    229 Howard Jones // OLB // Shepherd
    Heck of an athlete and the Cowboys have shown interest by bringing him in.

    231 Jay Bromley // DT // Syracuse
    1-Tech depth, not going to give you must in the pass rush but can control the line of scrimmage.

    238 Rajion Neal // RB // Tennessee
    Don't know why he's so low on some boards, very productive in 2013 and coming from a good program. Not sure he'd make it to the 7th, but he was there in the mock.

    248 J. C. Copeland // FB // LSU
    As I've said, Murray runs best with a FB in the backfield with him, Copeland is a wrecking ball.

    251 Connor Shaw // QB // South Carolina
    Athletic upside, practice squad candidate.

    254 Colt Lyerla // TE // Oregon
    Huge red flags, hence his being the last selection. Probably a guy that's in the box for the 'Boys, but all the tools are there if he can finally stay out of trouble.
  2. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    I love it. Getting Ford, Chrichton and Thomas would be awesome for me. 3 of my pet cats.
  3. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    Not sure I love the idea of back to back DE's but I'd probably make an exception for Crichton....If he's there

    I'd be pretty surprised if Reid lasts until the 5th as well. Other than that it looks really good.
  4. supercowboy8

    supercowboy8 Well-Known Member

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    Love it all but dee ford. 5 year senior with only one good year. Also not a true 43 DE. Just not worth the 16th pick IMO.

    Also would look for another player at 119 but Coleman isn't bad there.

    If Donald and Barr are gone I would try a trade back for a LB like Shazier or Mosley and take the rest of your draft plus add a pick.
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  5. rkell87

    rkell87 Well-Known Member

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    ford reminds me of freeney, I think he will be really good, not worried about his size. Guy can play and has the drive to get better, would love him in a trade down
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  6. Bigdog

    Bigdog Well-Known Member

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    I would take this draft any day. Love the Reid pick. I like him a lot.
  7. TheCount

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    Agreed. I'm not worried about his size, or even what position he'd play, just get him on the field and let him rush.
  8. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Why does practically every Dallas mock I see fans doing have a fullback in it?

    No offense to this one, which is very good overall, just a trend I noticed.

    It is like people feel obligated to stick one (usually Millard, so kudos for being somewhat original with Copeland) in the seventh round. Every time.
  9. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    I'm fine with Dee ford, but not at 16.
  10. TheCount

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    I'd like to see what he could do at OLB. I'm also not obsessed with the holy grail that is #16 overall. It's a mid first round pick that people are treating like a Top 10 pick.

    You just want to get a player you like and at a decent value. I wouldn't play reindeer games with the pick, keep it simple. The only reason I'd trade down is if none of the guys I had graded as 1st round talent are left at 16, and even then, I'd want good value.

    I wouldn't say that if I don't get one of these three players, I'm bailing - that's how you ruin a draft.
  11. rkell87

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    6 7th round picks is why and millard fits what garrett has wanted in a FB which is the ability to catch. Millard is the next marcel reece in the right role.
  12. reddyuta

    reddyuta Well-Known Member

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    I really like Dee ford,his initial quickness is demarcus ware like and he does play the run well.
  13. TheCount

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    I want one every year, didn't know it was a trend.
  14. supercowboy8

    supercowboy8 Well-Known Member

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    That's what I'm doing. I don't have dee ford as a 1st round player. 1 good year out of 5 in vollege. Undersized and poor vs the run as a DE. Just not worth the 16th pick or any 1st round IMO.

    I think he is a 34 OLB only in the NFL.
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  15. TheCount

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    Fair enough, I just think the whole trade down thing has become a trend, like it's automatic.
  16. supercowboy8

    supercowboy8 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I'm all for trading up. It just depends on who is there when we pick. If all dallas has to give up is a 4th to get to 11 for Barr or donald I would do it. If a team calls wanting to over pay to get 16 and the top players are gone then I would do it.

    This draft is deep with good players ranked about the same but the draft is very weak in blue chips. I think trading back can get you more mid round picks and better value in a whole.
  17. supercowboy8

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    I just think if you can add a 2nd or early 3rd and still get Mosley or Shazier in late 1st and say Demarcus Lawrence with the extra 2nd or 3rd. That's better value than just Ford.

    Also I'm not reading where Brandon Thomas is a top 3 OG and might go late 1st.
  18. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    B/c drafting one would mean we wouldn't have to see Cam Lawrence...or was it Bosworth?...in the backfield again.
  19. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    I get that, but fullbacks can be signed after the draft. There are quite a few areas I would address before that considering how many empty sets we are likely to run.

    If this is becoming Linehan's offense, he did not even carry a fullback on the Lions offensive roster last season.
  20. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    I think Murray's a better player behind a FB who can move and block in space. If that guy can catch, too, it's a plus. We made the mistake with Vickers of going away from that to more of an in-line blocker. Then went away from FB altogether until injuries late last season freed up a position and we brought in Clutts. Clutts from the outset was a guy they thought could block after the LoS.

    I think there's a good chance we'd look at a guy in the draft who can do that at a higher level than Clutts could (nothing against Clutts, but he was simply the best-available on the street at the time). I don't think we have to draft one, though, and, if we do, I think it's because we're also planning to extend Murray. Otherwise, I'd just wait and get the best available UDFA after the draft and be prepared to go another direction depending who the primary runner is going to be next season.

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