Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Vinnie2u, Jan 5, 2013.
Denver Manning Factor, Houston, Minnesota and San Fran. All others are up and down or just suck.
Don't forget New England. I have never seen a QB with more time to throw except when he plays the Giants.
Umm, I can name a few more as well.
There are good lines that didn't make it to the postseason.
New Orleans has an amazing offensive line
Kansas City has a fine o-line
Seattle has a fine o-line
Minnesota's o-line is a fine o-line
I agree on the other poster's comment about New England. So we have 9 lines now that are well constructed. That's pretty normal for a position group consisting of 5 players. You'd probobly say there's 9 secondaries that are really good, or 9 WR corps that are deep.
It just speaks to how pathetic the Dallas o-line has been for so long that some fans just assume there's no such thing as a good o-line!
More flawed reasoning trotted out and shot full of holes,,,, but at least your girlfriend is a cutie.
A great defense usually penetrates a great offensive line. Plus, if you send more than they have to block, it's up to your QB to have the brains to get it to the open guy.
What kind of reply is this?
Of the ones you listed, Houston is not great at right tackle and right guard. They can't block a big nose tackle and don't run right at all. Last year they were all world. Minnesota and Dallas could switch guards and neither team would notice. In fact livings would be the best of the bunch.
I heard the guys on Talking Cowboys, and they all seemed to agree, say that Bernadeau was actually noticeably better than Livings. I was a little surprised to hear that, as my take was the same as yours.
As far as Houston, they ran right tackle 15% of the time and right end 11% of the time which was roughly on the NFL average of 14% and 9% respectively. In general, teams just run to the left and mid more often.
and there are a bunch of fans who dont know how things work on a football team. also butt hurt and conspirascies.
The one thing to keep in mind when talking about great o lines is that a great DL will usually beat a great OL, just ask the Patriots
Or maybe the QB to have a receiver adjust to a hot route, or a receiver to get open, or perhaps a coach to call a screen.
Just trying to make him feel good even though his OP is being demolished,,, but what's it to you?
These quality NFL lines. Aside from the Seahawks, these teams could win with better QB play.
I really don't think there are that many good lines in the NFL, but that should be no excuse for the Cowboys not having one. The younger posters may not remember, but the older posters remember how good it was to have a line that could dominate a defense. The defense would know that a running play was called, but they couldn't do a thing to stop it.
Redskins and Seahawks lines will be determined pretty soon here.
I think both are just OK, but at the same time pretty good.
Assuming there is of those open guys to throw to
I think there are at least 15 or more good olines. Great ones? Not too many.
Good would be nice though.
There are more than 3 or 4 good offensive lines in the NFL. In reality there are 10 to 15 good offensive lines in the NFL.
That's a little surprising to me too. Livings seems to get beat cleanly by quickness a couple of times a game but otherwise has looked okay. Bern just doesn't look strong enough to hold up against strong rushes right in his grill. IF I could pick one to upgrade, I'd still look to replace Bern.