I can shed a little light on the Irvin situation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just heard Mike on Dan Patrick's show. Now I will say this first, when asked if I would take a drug test, I would have said "let's do it right now". I do not know all of the ins and outs of the legal ramifications that goes along with being a celebrity or a person with the amount of money Irvin makes. I can say this, Irvin is upset that he is immediately saw as guilty, and not even given the benefit of the doubt. Everyone that says they would have taken the drug test, some would have and some would not have. Speaking for myself, I know that the old me, would have refused to take a test, because to me that would have been a slap in the face.(This is how I would have acted in the past.) (I'm telling you and showing you for 5yrs now that I'm clean and have turned my life around.) In the parenthesis, I'm stating what Irvin may be thinking. Anyway, that Pastor I.V. Hilliard is my head Pastor, and he runs a legit Life change institute program. It is not funded by the Government, it is funded by all of our church members, we do not ask the Government for money. You get screened and if you past the screening you are admitted, but you are free to leave anytime you want. We do not keep a person there against their will. Now they go thru your bags and clothing when you arrive, I know this because I am a member of the Church and I just took my brother-in law there on Oct 27, 05. The program focus on teaching a person about God and God's word. You wake up a 6am, pray, eat breakfast, clean up yourself and your area and assigned areas, you go back and pray again, then you have church service, youhave different ministers preaching to you , until luch time, after lunch you pray again and listen to the ministers teach you the word again until 7pm, you have time to clean up again, a little free time to walk around out side of the building, and then you have to be in bed at 10pm. No television, no radio, nothing but the Bible and the ministers and the other guys going thru the program, it is a successful program. You can go for 30 days, to 90 days. And as I said, you are free to leave anytime you want, and if a person leaves out of the compound they are expelled from the program. The only thing that I do not like about the program is that it is located in the Hood, so once you step out of the compound, I mean as soon as you step past the fence you can get any kind of drug you want, it is in one of the HOODs, Ghetto of Houston. So Irvin was telling the truth about that. It is a legit program and as I said very successful and have been around for many years now. When Irvin mentioned that and My Pastor, I knew he was telling the truth then. Oh, one other thing, on my birthday Saturday me and my family went to visit, my brother-in-law and he was telling us that 4 or 5 guys were expelled because they left out of the compound, he said 2 snuck out during the night. So, people wait until this thing is finished before you throw rocks at Irvin. Now, I'm with Dan Patrick, alcoholics and drug abusers, will lie, and they are good at it, but he also forgot to mention, that people tend to think the worse . If they know that you once were one of those people, and if that person is telling the truth, part of you will think that he is lying. You want to believe that person because you like that person, but You do not listen to that small voice that is telling you he is telling the truth, because he once was a user. But< i can vouch for Irvin and his Life Change Institiute statement, and that if his friend left, then he could have been one of the 5 people that my brother-in-law was talking about.