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Tom Clancey predicted this war????

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by ThaBigP, Aug 11, 2008.

  1. ThaBigP

    ThaBigP New Member

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    I have in my hand a game I bought years ago - Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon. The plot of the game follows.....

    Ghost Recon
    Ghost Recon begins in April 16, 2008, with civil unrest in Russia. Ultra-nationalists have seized power in Moscow, with plans to rebuild the Iron Curtain. Their first step is clandestine support of rebel factions in Georgia and the Baltic States. This storyline foreshadows the 2008 South Ossetia War. This is where the Ghosts come in: to silence the rebellion. Armed with some of the most advanced weaponry in the world, the soldiers of the Ghost Recon force are covertly inserted into Eastern Europe and given specific missions to curtail the rebel actions and overthrow their benefactors.
    The game's storyline stems from political turmoil that came to light a few years earlier, in which the Ultra-nationalist regime came to power and placed its leader, Dmitri Arbatov, as Russia's president. By 2007, the threat posed by the Arbatov Administration became clear. Russia forms an alliance called the Russian Democratic Union (RDU), which is made up of the previously conquered countries of Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. Together, they launch a campaign to revive the long-dissolved Soviet Union by taking back all of the former Soviet republics.
    During the first few missions of the game, the Ghosts battle South Ossetian rebel forces from the north of Georgia, who are harassing the legitimate government and its allies. The Ghosts fight in the forests, on farms, and in villages while assisting their NATO allies in fighting the enemy. The Russian government complains to the United Nations that the Americans have interfered in their affairs, and eventually they send in their army to aid the South Ossetian rebels. The U.S. cannot hope to stop the Russian Army from invading Georgia, so the Ghosts slow down the invading forces so that their allies can evacuate. Eventually, the Ghosts are all that's left of the U.S. forces in Georgia, and they evacuate by SH-60 Seahawk helicopter on the rooftop of the American Embassy in T'bilisi, just barely avoiding the Russian forces. The Georgian government flees to Geneva and sets up a government-in-exile. With the fall of T'bilisi, Georgia surrenders and is forcefully incorporated into the RDU.
    After Georgia falls, the Caucasus region is vulnerable to further attack. The Georgian government, Great Britain, Germany, and the U.S. all protest the Russian invasion, but Moscow ignores them. Russia then focuses on invading the Baltic States on Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. In response to this, the Ghosts are sent behind enemy lines to find intelligence on the enemy attack. The Russians launch their attack early and overrun the Baltic States within days. The Ghosts then are sent back in to slow the invasion down so NATO reinforcements can arrive from Germany. After cutting off the Russian reinforcements, the Ghosts fight alongside American forces to push the Russian Army out of the Baltics. Victories are won within the next months in Utena and Rezekne, and finally, NATO reaches Vilnius, Lithuania. The city was almost leveled after the invasion, but it is eventually liberated with some help from the Ghosts, forcing the Russian Army to abandon the invasion.
    The loss of the Baltic states takes its toll on Russia. President Arbatov is blamed for the disaster and placed under house arrest, starting rumors about a coup de'tat. The Ghosts then run into Russia to free American and Russian POWs opposed to the government. Some time later, President Arbatov is executed. This sparks a rebellion all across Russia that borderlines on civil war. The Ultra-nationalists quickly lose the support of the people, and many members of the RDU are also liberated or quit the alliance. The Ghosts are then sent on a campaign to disable the combat capabilities of several Ultra-nationalist military bases, such as the naval base at Murmansk and the airbase at Arkhangel'sk. They destroy several subs and prototype aircraft, making Russian Forces combat ineffective in Naval and Air warfare. While the Ghosts are striking bases, the Ultra-nationalists engage in battle with American troops and Russian forces based North of Moscow that now opposed the Russian government. The Ultra-nationalist forces detonated a nuclear bomb during the battle. As a result the Ultra-nationalist regime loses legitimacy in the eyes of the international community, prompting an immediate invasion of Moscow.
    After the Ghosts succeed in weakening the Russian fighting force, NATO forces launch an assault on Moscow, with the Ghosts spearheading the assault. By this time, the Ultra-nationalists have lost control of most of their territories, and the RDU effectively dissolves. The remaining Ultra-nationalist forces hole up their tanks, snipers, Spetsnaz, helicopters, and artillery in the wooded areas surrounding Moscow as a last line of defense. However, the Ghosts break through the lines and clear a path for NATO forces. On November 10, NATO forces finally reach Moscow and are joined by friendly Russians. The city is partially deserted, as many Russians fled prior to the attack. The Ghosts are sent in to finish the job once and for all. After assisting NATO forces, the Ghosts attack Red Square. The Ghosts then proceed to wipe out the Russian defenders guarding the walls of the Kremlin. Without any remaining defenses, the Ultra-nationalists, led by Prime Minister Karpin, finally surrender and both the Americans and the newly-liberated Russians celebrate their victory in Red Square. However, the world feels the effects of the war for years afterward.
  2. ThaBigP

    ThaBigP New Member

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    Might I also add, that although the game "takes place in 2008", it was published in 2001!! I doubt such a conflagration would be as "easy" as portrayed, but the trigger point he seemed to have right. Assuming this builds up to such a large conflict.
  3. Ben_n_austin

    Ben_n_austin Benched

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    That's freaky, dork. :p:
  4. ThaBigP

    ThaBigP New Member

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    Yeah, I'm sure that it's a way to sell not only a book, but a series of games. One storyline, 10 revenue streams. Heh. Like Howard Stern making about 4 different colored cases for his movie DVDs - collect them all! Pay 4x as much!
  5. Ben_n_austin

    Ben_n_austin Benched

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    LOL. This is your conspiracy?
  6. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    This Georgia thing has been going on quietly for over 10 years.

    Its not really a surprise to anyone in the Military except in how quickly it escalated.

    Russia is gambling that the current divided political structure of this Country will keep them out of it.

    In the end it will probably just make Russia look more and more like the old USSR and the other European countries will start kissing up to us again.
  7. ThaBigP

    ThaBigP New Member

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    It was just a cute observation. Not like I was sitting here with a grim face and visions of DaVinci Code dancing in my head......
  8. Ben_n_austin

    Ben_n_austin Benched

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    Given the context of it all, it was funny. :eek:: :)
  9. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    As was pointed out - this has been building for a while. Russia keeps saying how their history is good reason for paranoia; but will never admit that a lot of that was due to their own actions. The Czars were constantly trying to expand Russia, and the Communists were claiming that they wanted to control the world. Then they are amazed when other countries attack them.
  10. Ben_n_austin

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    I wouldn't exactly want to attack Russia at this point in time...... That thing needs some diplomacy. If we go military rhetoric on them, they're gonna invoke theirs in return and we're spread pretty *** thin, though not entirely. But morally and even from a morale standpoint, I don't think it'd be a good a idea at all.
  11. ThaBigP

    ThaBigP New Member

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    Couple of points:

    1) We don't have to intervene with our own troops. Georgia is a mountainous region, and difficult to completely subdue by armor and heavy artilery. Air power plays a big role here, and we and the EU can supply means of making that an expensive means of suppression for the Russians. If the Georgians can be resupplied by an international effort, then they could hold out on their own for quite a while. The Afghans did it for almost a decade. Like I said before the clock is ticking on Russia. A big PR blunder to have this go on too long, with, as I said before, what is left of the Georgian people huddled around their capital in defiance.

    2) From the latest I've been reading, Georgian civillians are starting to take to the fight. Add that to the 2000 battle hardened troops recently returned from Iraq, who know about insurgency and counter-insurgency first hand.

    In the end, what the Georgians need the most is the means to defend themselves. They've clearly demonstrated their willingness to spill their own blood for their own freedom (and that doesn't count the blood they've spilled in Iraq fighting for theirs on our behalf).

    Combine that with a unified front not only from the EU and US, but primarily the former Soviet-era republics. As I also stated before, Russia's goal is to take them down one-by-one. They cannot resist a unified front from all of them at once. That front would stretch about 3000 miles, engulfing Russia's Western and Southern border.
  12. arglebargle

    arglebargle Well-Known Member

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    While I don't think it will go that far, you can take a look at what Russia laid on the Chechins to see what could happen.

    I think Putin will bloody his hammer pretty seriously though before incorporating the seccesionist areas, and giving out an abject lesson to pro-western neighbors. And messing up the oil pipeline, of course.

    I don't think the Russians really care much about the PR aspect. They know the West will be back next year, buying oil and sending in investment. Long term, I don't see that much downside for them.

    Not sure what really useful things the West can do short of direct conflict.
  13. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Sadly that is true. We warned Europe back in the 90s that becoming so dependent on Russian oil could come back and bite them. Now we are starting to see the fallout. Not that I think Europe would have the stones to actually take stron action anyway....
  14. yeahyeah

    yeahyeah New Member

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    Yeah he sure did....and every other scenario under the sun :laugh2:

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