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Toronto Blue Jays Acquire Josh Johnson, Buehrle, & Reyes From Marlins

Discussion in 'Sports Zone' started by WPBCowboysFan, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Rumored blockbuster trade has Blue Jays getting Josh Johnson, Buerhle, Jose Reyes and a couple other players from the Marlins.

    So far just tweets from Ken Rosenthal and Buster Olney, but not much else out there yet.

    This is huge if true.



    Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN

    The Blue Jays-Marlins trade is done... This is going to be one of the all-timers, with Reyes, Johnson, Bonifacio, Buck, Buehrle...holy crow.
  2. Derekmtl85

    Derekmtl85 Well-Known Member

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    As a Jays fan, this is HUGE.

    Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi
    #Marlins opened season with a payroll of roughly $100MM. After this trade, non-arb 2013 obligations will be ~ $16MM. Historic salary dump.

    Check The Ticker ‏@ChecktheTicker
    #BlueJays will be taking on approximately $165M worth of salaries in this trade with the #Marlins


    The marlins gets 3 very good prospects though, Marisnick, Hechavarria, Nicholino. And they also get Escobar and Alvarez.

    Rumor is the jays will also send either JPA, Wilson or Mathis.

    But, the deal is true. everyone is on Twitter talking about it. People from ESPN, CBS sports, etc.
  3. TheCoolFan

    TheCoolFan Well-Known Member

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    Wow the Blue Jays are back! The AL just became VERY tough :eek:
  4. Boys122

    Boys122 Well-Known Member

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    As a Yankee fan I hate to say it, but the division will look like this, especially if the Yanks get rid of some heavy contracts.

    Baltimore
    Toronto
    New York
    Tampa Bay
    Boston
  5. crazytown41

    crazytown41 Well-Known Member

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    This is why the public should NEVER fund a stadium. What a freaking joke. The Marlins just pissed all over that city.
  6. RoyTheHammer

    RoyTheHammer Well-Known Member

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    In other unrelated news.. Marlins team owner Jeffrey Loria has entered the Witness Protection Program and his whereabouts are unknown.
  7. dexternjack

    dexternjack World Traveler Zone Supporter

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    Loria was forced to go out and field a good/popular team in order to get their new stadium. Selig kind of forced his hand to do so and now Loria is unloading all that money.

    This is a crooked situation there and something needs to be done to the Marlins. Selig made the Dodgers owner sell, my Mets Wilpon's are in worse shape and nothing happens to them.

    Basically, the Marlin fans got screwed over big time :(
  8. Numbers921

    Numbers921 Benched

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    Disgraceful. Selig should've blocked this trade for "baseball reasons".
  9. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Where does the idea that the Marlins went out and signed a bunch of high dollar guys "in order to get a new stadium" come from?

    The signing of all these guys came after the stadium issues were settled and the construction was almost complete. These players had absolutely nothing to do with "GETTING" the new taxpayer sponsored stadium.

    There were "questionable" things pertaining to how the whole stadium thing went down. But, that all had to do with getting it done/approved and the funding. There was even talk of an investigation into the process and the politicians and the Marlins as to how it happened, but this has nothing to do with the players they signed as free agents.

    The Marlins signed guys to a lotta $$$ in hopes it would make a big splash with the opening of the new stadium. It backfired.

    So, why continue to pay out all those $$$ for a 69 win team? They can do that with far less $$$ going out. Get young guys and prospects and try to improve that way.

    I think the owner is pond scum and bad for baseball. I'm not defending him in any way, but lets at least get the facts sorta right.

    In actuality, this scenario is good for America. Other cities wont be as inclined to give into sports owners and their hostage like demands and throw away millions of $$$ that the team should put up. If the team wnats to keep all the profits - then - pay the expenses in the process. If the team is willing to split the profits with the cities that fund stadiums then that is another thing.
  10. dexternjack

    dexternjack World Traveler Zone Supporter

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    I have read somewhere that Selig "told" Loria to go out and spend some money.

    A few snipets I found earlier from various sources:

    They told him if he didn't raise his payroll he would lose the money he gets from the top market teams and he wouldn't get that new stadium. They gave him that stadium based on that and he does but just to get the stadium.

    "After looking back at recent comments made by Loria, Samson and others, ESPN.com's Buster Olney finds it hard to view the Marlins' decision making "as anything other than a complete sham." There are calls for MLB to force Loria to sell the team, Olney writes. However, baseball executives think the deal was good for Miami from a pure baseball standpoint (considering talent and salary obligations)."

    The Marlins have a new stadium and with it, deeper revenue streams to get back to competition more quickly.

    I did not mean to insinuate that the Marlins went out and got new players in order to get the stadium, it was after but it is heresay that was part of the deal once it was set.

    I don't exactly know what is going on, but it smells fishy out there in South Beach.
  11. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    I think there was some talk about the Marlins needing to spend more on salaries for players. Even some "encouragement" from his peers and the commish.

    This salary dumping is kinda standard fare for this bunch.

    The fishy stuff in South Beach had to do more with the way the new stadium came about.

    The owner is worthless and nobody respects him. He should be forced to sell, just for being such a clown. Although, I think he made a good move by freeing up the money with this loser team. And canning Ozzie as manager was probably a smart move also.
  12. dexternjack

    dexternjack World Traveler Zone Supporter

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    I'm a Mets fan and I know a bad owner as well. The Wilpon's are destroying my team and will not spend any money.

    I don't know what is worse, never spend or go all-in then fold. At least they finally got rid of Jason Bay :)
  13. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Im an Orioles fan. Peter Angelos has been a horrible owner. Ruined a once proud franchise. Making millions off of the MASN TV network, and has the Nats locked into the network as well, so making a lot of dollars off of them as well.

    14 years of mediocrity and worse. This past season was fun and maybe things are going in the right direction.

    Bad owners are horrible for the fans. We should be able to crucify them for some of the stuff they do.

    Everything I know is bad ownership. Jerruh for football. The Dollfins owner. Marlins owner. Orioles owner. I feel cursed at times with my teams and my local teams.
  14. Derekmtl85

    Derekmtl85 Well-Known Member

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    I'm a Toronto Maple Leafs fan, a Toronto Blue Jays fan, a Toronto Raptors fan and a Cowboys fan.

    I'm also cursed...lol All my teams pretty much suck. Half of them finished in the bottom 5 of their respective leagues last year. :laugh2:
  15. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Yep, the years just keep on going by and here we sit as Cowboys fans hoping for a fluke, some good fortune, etc. to give us a meaningful season.

    I went to Game 5 to see the Heat win it all last year. I figured its only an hour drive so I may as well go and enjoy the thrill of a big time game/moment. It was fun to be there and experience it, but there was an emptiness. Something was missing. It was just another game. Im not even really a casual basketball fan so I had nothing invested. It was nothing like pulling for one of your teams that gets that far.
  16. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    I'd love to see the Blue Jays make a run. Even though as a Phillies fan I still have nightmares of Joe Carter.
  17. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    The Blue Jays signed the Melk Man, Melky Cabrera today too.

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