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Trade 'em both down; Why not?

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Qwickdraw, Apr 8, 2005.

  1. Qwickdraw

    Qwickdraw Benched

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    (1) #11- trade down (for a 1st ** and a late 2nd** or early 3rd**)
    (1) #**- Demarcus Ware DE/OLB (Troy State)
    (1) #20- trade down (for a 1st^^ and a 3rd^^)
    (1) #^^- Jammal Brown OT (Oklahoma)
    (2) #42- Roddy White WR (UAB)
    (3) #**- Michael Boley OLB (Southern Miss)
    (3) #^^- Gerald Sensabaugh FS (North Carolina)
    (4) #109- Nehemiah Boughton FB (Citadel)
    (5) #148- Sionhe Pouha DT (Utah)


    Man, I like this.

    O:
    QB- Drew Bledsoe, Henson
    RB- Julius Jones, Lee
    FB- Nehemiah Broughton*, Polite
    TE- Jason Witten, Campbell
    WR- Keyshawn Johnson
    WR- Terry Glenn, Crayton
    WR- Roddy White*, Morgan
    LOT- Flozell Adams, Rogers
    ROT- Jammal Brown*, Tucker
    OG- Larry Allen, Peterman
    OG- Marco Rivera, Gurode
    C- Al Johnson, Walter
    D:
    RDE- Demarcus Ware*, Ogbogu
    LDE- Greg Ellis, Coleman
    RDT- La roi Glover, Carson
    LDT- Jason Ferguson, Pouha*
    OLB- Michael Boley*, James
    MLB- Dat Nguyen, Fowler
    OLB- Kalen Thorton, Singleton
    RCB- Anthony Henry, Hunter
    LCB- Terrence Newman, Thornton
    FS- Gerald Sensabaugh*, Davis
    SS- Roy Williams, Scott
  2. Natedawg44

    Natedawg44 Active Member

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    I would be dancing in the streets if this happened

    (1) #11- trade down (for a 1st ** and a late 2nd** or early 3rd**)
    (1) #**- Demarcus Ware DE/OLB (Troy State) Probably the best edge rusher in the draft
    (1) #20- trade down (for a 1st^^ and a 3rd^^)
    (1) #^^- Jammal Brown OT (Oklahoma) Best RT in the draft starter from day one
    (2) #42- Roddy White WR (UAB) fills the role as a young understudy with good potential
    (3) #**- Michael Boley OLB (Southern Miss) Very underrated he's a Derrick Johnson that can get to the QB with at a much cheaper price. Best pick of the Mock
    (3) #^^- Gerald Sensabaugh FS (North Carolina) Great athlete big upside could contribute early
    (4) #109- Nehemiah Boughton FB (Citadel) I'd rather have Brandon Jacobs but I'm being picky
    (5) #148- Sionhe Pouha DT (Utah) good run stuffer alot of people are high on him
  3. S.B. Bound

    S.B. Bound Member

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    Sir...Slowly put the pipe down & step away :stop2:
  4. Qwickdraw

    Qwickdraw Benched

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    I don't get it?
    This is a well designed and thought out mock (IMO) that COULD actually happen.
    And I've left out Clayton, Williams, and Merriman along with all the other guys everyone is so high on.
  5. Natedawg44

    Natedawg44 Active Member

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    Everybody here hates mocks that aren't there own. This is one of my favorites
  6. cobra

    cobra Salty Bastard

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    Trade 'em both down; Why not?

    Because you want blue-chip players?

    We could probably be creative enough in trading down to have evey pick in the 7th round. That's 32 picks, man! (Actually, there is probably some rule against that). But the point being that trading down means trading for a lesser player. At some point, you want studs on your team. Gimmie one Terrell Suggs in the first instead of 2 Bradie Jameses in the third.

    Trading down wouldn't be bad if we are supremely confident that Parcells can find gems later in the draft. But usually there is a REASON why people are later draft picks. They are more of a reach; less of a sure thing.
  7. Qwickdraw

    Qwickdraw Benched

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    You show me some guaranteed "blue-chippers" available at #11 and I hope we select them.
    The problem is, this draft doesn't have many clearcut "blue-chippers" which means most of them will be available in the late 1st round. (Just like my mock reflects)
    IMO, D. Ware, R. White and J. Brown are blue-chippers.
    And I feel just about the same about Boley and Sensabaugh.
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    Hype does not equal "blue chipper". Production does. And if you look at stats, you would see that all of the guys I selected have outperformed many of the "blue-chip" guys.
    Not to mention, my research has shown the majority of these guys in my mock to be high character, coachable players. No one seems to put any stock in that anymore... but I do.
  8. Natedawg44

    Natedawg44 Active Member

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    Boley is just as productive as Derrick Johnson except Boley had 28 sacks in 3 years (eyepopping to say the least). Boley had a great workout running a low 4.5 but Derrick Johnson is a blue chipper and Micheal Boley is a 3rd rounder. The difference in talent is not that wide of a gap. There is talent later in the draft otherwise no one would ever make the probowl that isn't a first round pick.
  9. Qwickdraw

    Qwickdraw Benched

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    Man, each time I look at this draft outcome...
    I like it more.

    This would make my freakin' year!
  10. dbair1967

    dbair1967 Arch Defender

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    trading down is contingent on who's available and what value we have on said player/s...

    bottom line is the lower you pick, the harder it is to find impact players...if we can get two surefire starters at need positions with the 11th and 20th, and the value is there then you dont trade down

    David
  11. KChiefs1

    KChiefs1 New Member

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    Kansas City Chiefs give the Cowboys the 15th pick in 2005 plus a 5th round pick this year in addition to a #2 pick in 2006 for the Cowboys 11th pick.

    Is this a doable trade between the Chiefs & Cowboys?
  12. Natedawg44

    Natedawg44 Active Member

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    Depends on who is there and who covets whom. Seems doable though

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