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Upshaw--No Longer A Target?

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by SDogo, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. SDogo

    SDogo Not as good as I once was but as good once as I ev

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    Got word today the Cowboys interest in Upshaw has really soured.

    Word is his approach to the draft process seems to have favored teams running a 4-3 looking for a DE and Upshaw himself was given the advice to gain some weight after struggling in several drills.

    Given that he showed up at his pro day at 279 pounds it seems he has taken that advice and ran with it.
  2. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    Good, I think at the right weight he can be what Spencer has been for us, maybe a bit better, but not enough that I would replace Spencer with him.
  3. Eskimo

    Eskimo Well-Known Member

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    The sad part is that he isn't even a great athlete for a DE. Brockers has a better vertical.

    I'm glad that he is off our radar.
  4. Bowdown27

    Bowdown27 Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad I was never a fan of upshaw even when he won MVP for the nation championship game
  5. Deep_Freeze

    Deep_Freeze Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, hopefully this thought process continues as he wasn't really the guy carrying Bama's D the whole season.
  6. cbow44

    cbow44 Member

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    Thats a shame, I really liked Upshaw. But when your 6'1" and 280 it really limits your options. Someone gave him some bad advice.
  7. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    Bill Jones said the same thing the other night.

    Not sure how to feel. Never really cared either way about the guy.
  8. ragingbull2488

    ragingbull2488 Member

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    So narrowed down to either Mark Barron or Kirkpatrick. I wonder which one they select.
  9. Randy White

    Randy White Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Doesn't surprise me. After looking at him in the Senior Bowl drills, I didn't see any natural pass rushing skills. I really don't know what to make of him ( if I was a personnel director ). I've gone as far as thinking outside the box and entertaining the idea of moving him inside to DT so he can shoot the gaps, perhaps, take advantage of the quickness he'll have against OGs.. Perhaps a poor man's version of Russell Maryland. For that to happen, though, he'd have to go to Buffalo, where Dave Wanstead's system would use him that way. Maybe Chicago, or Tampa, but Buffalo doesn't need him in the 1st round after signing Mario Williams, and Tampa sure as heck won't spend the #5 on him.

    I see him slidding big time.
  10. SDogo

    SDogo Not as good as I once was but as good once as I ev

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    I would put the odds at 50% it will be one of those two at this point and going up.
  11. Randy White

    Randy White Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    right.. I should have stuck to my guns with Barron when I first mocked him back in January.. :D

    Still, if I had to pick between the 2, I think I'd go with Kirkpatrick. I like Barron, but the Cowboys need the cover guy more..
  12. SDogo

    SDogo Not as good as I once was but as good once as I ev

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    Not to late, just recycle it! lol
  13. scrives

    scrives Member

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    Sdogo, between the following who would you say is number one on DC board?
    can you list them in order?

  14. Eskimo

    Eskimo Well-Known Member

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    The problem with Kirkpatrick is many people aren't convinced he has the movement skills to play at corner. If this is true he is then a project to convert to safety and I don't want a project in the first round.

    I'd really rather have Barron as I know he'll be a good starter. I'm not convinced he has much upside, though.

    I'd take him if he were the next Brian Dawkins let alone Reed/Polamalu. He clearly isn't going to be an Earl Thomas or an Eric Berry. I'd like this selection a lot more if we traded back into the mid 20s for him.

    It is kind of sad but I almost seem to like many of the players most of the mocks have coming off the board at the end of the first than the middle of the first. I do like Kuechly but we have 3 young ILBs on the roster already so he probably won't add much to our defense.
  15. pupulehaole

    pupulehaole Well-Known Member

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    SDogo any way we sniff at Gilmore at 14? or not a chance?
  16. poost

    poost Well-Known Member

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    Is it possible to maybe target both Kirkpatrick and Barron?
  17. ThreeandOut

    ThreeandOut Well-Known Member

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    If the Cowboys go OLB in the first round, they need someone more versatile than Upshaw especially if they keep Spencer this year. They need someone who will have more of an impact this year than just a substitute for Spencer to justify a first round selection. Ingram or Hightower would seem to be players that could play other roles in the defense, and could play with Ware and Spencer in certain situations.
  18. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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  19. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    I don't like Barron. We just don't need another in the box safety. If he can cover exceptionally well then I'll eat crow and be happy to if we draft him. I'm starting to warm to Gilmore after a trade down. I still think they should take someone at 14. There will be a player there IMO. If they drop down there will be plenty of options.
  20. Teague31

    Teague31 Defender of the Star

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    Don't like either. Can't justify taking a #4 corner at 14 and Barron reminds me too much of roy31.

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