Discussion in 'Artwork Zone' started by trickblue, May 9, 2006.
Yes... we've seen a few, but this one has some good footage some may not have seen...
Great footage. I love the pick of Carpenter, other than Hawk I think Carpenter was the best all around LB in this draft. He can rush the passer, drop off in coverage and stuff the run. As far as I'm concerned all of these abilities is what makes a great LB.
The thing I like best is that even when he delivers the big hit tackles he still wraps up and takes down. Too many guys look for that Ronnie Lott highlight knockout and they simply cannot do what Lott did. Make the tackle whether it is a big hit or not. Carpenter does that. Solid football is always an advantage. That is why I liked this kid from the word go.
Good point. Everyone loves seeing the big hit but text book tackling to me is still a thing of beauty.
How people perceive Carp as being slow is beyond me.
Yep... he caught Vince Young from behind twice in that footage...
I know, thats what I find to be funniest of all. Some of the same people who claim Vince Young is the greatest athlete EVER , superman in a football helmet, are the same folks who say Carpenter is too slow. Only to show Carp running Young down from behind TWICE! Do they even understand that what they are saying is a huge contradiction? Probably NOT. Tooooooooo funny.
cause white = slow (in some peoples' minds):starspin
.................You could be right. WITHOUT turning this into a race thread, IMO this whole black/white thing is getting wayyyyyyyyyyyy out of control. It really is. People are people are people. Were all the same. I really dont think some posters even understand just how stupid they sound when they make certain posts. Ive seen posts in here like...."hey, he runs pretty good for a white guy" Do people get how absurd a comment like that is. That would be like if someone were judging QB's and were talking about Vince Young and made a comment like...." Hey, he thinks pretty good for a black guy". The whole thing is just STUPID on both ends of the spectrum. Both type of comments should be condemned for what they ARE. Racist, narrowminded, invalid, and moronic. THERE. Im off the soapbox. :bang2:
and on that note, let's get back to the thread topic boys...
Notice he takes a good angle of pursuit when the QB gets outside.
Personally, I think it was the old "my guy vs. your guy syndrome".
Those calling Carpenter slow probably wanted Manny really bad. Compared to Manny, Carp probably is slow.....but so are a lot of other quality football players.
Yep... he knows how to play the game...
It makes a difference as he has natural instinct. Coaches' sons with athletic ability always have an advantage IMO...
I think that VY tackle was the same one from different angles, but I could be mistaken.
Edit: I guess you all are referring to the run-down to the outside where he finishes the tackle the other player starts. Yeah, he's got speed.
Anywho, I am excited about Bobby C. He's a baller and has an attitude and its EXACTLY what our D needs.
I love that as well. I also love how excited and pumped up he gets, something the Boys seem to be lacking as of late.
As well as high intensity this was obvious in the clips. The guy plays the game with passion
Carpenter is 'football fast'. That's what I see. He may not have graded out as the best in the measurables, but he's up there and you can see he's capable of playing instinctively, which is something you can't coach.
He seems to make the right reads in his Ohio State schemes and we all hope that it tranlates to our 3-4 scheme.
My only concern is how Zimmer and Co. actually use him. They ended up cutting back on Ware last year as the season went on to where he was sort of one-dimensional with pass rushing and was not good at run stopping.
By mid-season, Ware had been neutralized by the offensive coordinators who had his game read and defensed.
And the Dallas coaches didn't change things up at that point to get Ware on track again.
I'm wondering if with the addition of Carpenter, if they won't move Ware around more to get a better result with him..? Leaving Carpenter to take on the run responsibilities more..?
Ware has to be utilized like the days when Haley was here. Haley came from everywhere on the DL to confuse the offense.
Does Carp allow Zimer to do this with Ware..? And does ths best utilize Carp to use him that way..?
The thing that is nice about his motor, is that we have some other guys with the same trait. Ability with high motor could make this a dominating defense...
PWB, great post and I share your concern on our "coaching" ability. It seemed like Ware had one move last year. Hopefully, someone can teach him how to play more effectively this year.
And yes, to all you Zimmer lovers, I realize he lead the team in sacks, etc.. and for a rookie that's real darn good.
He's an animal, all over the field, fearless and takes on anyone in his way.
As far as pure speed vs football fast, that's the instincts. there is no hesitation on his part as to where the play is going, how to defend the play.
You can be really fast, and caught out of position..... so that you need all that speed and more to make a tackle or get in position to make the play.