1. Welcome to CowboysZone!  Join us!  Come on!  You know you want to!

Video: Dukes vs Doug Free: The Video Evidence

Discussion in 'Artwork Zone' started by dcfanatic, Jul 11, 2010.

  1. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

    57,073 Messages
    1 Likes Received
    Which is where I think switching over from right to left tackle was huge for him.
  2. juck

    juck Well-Known Member

    9,125 Messages
    80 Likes Received
    Dukes loved the Cowboys when his pal TO was here. On the video,Kosier sucks.
  3. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

    27,457 Messages
    2,848 Likes Received
    off topic, but Jamie Dukes sure does bag on Tony Romo a whole lot for being an UDFA himself.
  4. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

    27,457 Messages
    2,848 Likes Received
    :clap2:
  5. DallasDomination

    DallasDomination Well-Known Member

    6,359 Messages
    72 Likes Received
    The more I watch this the more it reminds me of how bad the oline played that game. Romo had zero time to pass. It also reminds me of how dumb our coaching was by not running Felix Jones more.

    Doug free played average at best in this game. I'm giving him a pass because he played well at RT when Colombo was hurt.
  6. CowboyFan74

    CowboyFan74 Cowboys Analyst

    12,613 Messages
    540 Likes Received
    Flo went down, Gurode was playing with a bum knee, and Colombo was still nursing a broken leg.. We didn't have a chance and by the 4rth quarter the defense was gassed and started giving up points. Free was not even a concern in that game...
  7. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

    7,498 Messages
    406 Likes Received

    It's hard to make it though an NFL season healthy, especially when you wiegh over 300 lbs.
  8. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

    24,671 Messages
    4,944 Likes Received
    I disagree. Any producer and editor wants the material to be consumed by the masses, not some small segment of connoisseurs. And what sells better? Things that are bright and rosy written for the Cowboy fan in mind? I guarantee you if Dukes said he had the utmost confidence in Doug Free, it would not sell.
  9. VACowboy

    VACowboy Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

    3,805 Messages
    218 Likes Received
    I guess "selling" is the name of the media game, but doesn't accuracy have to come into play at some point? My personal opinion, Free was neither as bad as Dukes has portrayed him, nor as great as DC made him out to be in the video. What I saw was Free getting pushed around a good bit but holding up fairly well, considering the circumstances.

    What did anyone expect from a guy forced into mid-game duty in a conference championship game, in one of the most hostile environments in the league, against one of the best players in football, at a position he hadn't prepared for and had never played before in his professional career? In my opinion, Free did as well as could have been expected. I have complete confidence that, going through TC at LT and preparing to play the position, week in and week out, Free will be fine.

    I don't care if Dukes hates the Cowboys. I couldn't care less if his opinions are biased. What irks me is when he uses blatant inaccuracies in his arguments, like calling Free "heavy-legged." He obviously knows zero about the player.
  10. Yakuza Rich

    Yakuza Rich Well-Known Member

    12,197 Messages
    1,237 Likes Received
    I disagree with you on this. I think there’s a niche being developed here because of more or less incompetence from sports writers and TV analysts. I have no problem with Dukes saying that he doesn’t like Doug Free, but show us why instead of just telling us that he sucks and leave it at that. Hell, if a producer really had some guts they’d call out idiot reporters and idiot analysts who clearly just make blanket statements, much like a ‘taste test comparison’ type of marketing.

    It has nothing to do with being a ‘connoisseur’, but it has to do with good, sound reporting/analysis and I think the masses want that…or at least wouldn’t mind seeing that. The problem with these shows and sports sections in the newspapers is that all of them try to be the same and quite frankly, ESPN owns the market on that. So think outside of the box for a bit, differentiate yourself from the competition and market yourself as being different from the competition and you can actually generate the ratings, revenue, Web site clicks, etc.

    There’s not a lot of reasons for an NFL fan to go and pay extra to get the NFL Network when they can get ESPN with their regular cable package if the NFLN is essentially the same format with the same type of hosts making the same type of blanket statements and lazy analysis and reports.




    YR
  11. VACowboy

    VACowboy Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

    3,805 Messages
    218 Likes Received
    EXACTLY.

    I have no prob with Dukes criticizing Free, but he needs to at least look at some film. Free is exactly opposite the slow non-athlete Dukes makes him out to be.
  12. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

    24,671 Messages
    4,944 Likes Received
    It has everything to do with being a connoisseur. If you think bits like what is put out by the mass media is concerned with accuracy and a lack of bias, then you are most certainly not the target audience. I don't think the masses want the kind of reporting you are referring to, because honestly it would be over their heads. I am not excusing it but I understand why things are done the way they are.
  13. HoleInTheRoof

    HoleInTheRoof Benched

    3,265 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    I agree.

    Hard core fans want what YR is referring to. And most of us are hard core fans.

    But Joe Fans want simplicity that doesn't require thinking on their part.
  14. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

    24,671 Messages
    4,944 Likes Received
    I can count on one hand the number of analysts that actually do this. Sadly, most are just like Dukes, uninformed and more than a little bit lazy. Again, these types of junkies (ala Ron Jaworski) are few and far between. Even those bring their baggage to the table. Jaworski is as technical as can be, but he will absolutely inject bias.
  15. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

    24,671 Messages
    4,944 Likes Received
    Quick, easy and not mentally taxing is the name of the game. Intellectual analysis (or hardcore as you put it) is not something that sells or is that cost efficient considering the target audience.

    Like it or not, football coverage is rarely slanted this way. Watch practically any pregame show there is. No film study, just quick and digestible bites that casual fans can digest and ruminate over. The more sensational or sentimental the better. It is emotionally driven, not analytical.
  16. Chief

    Chief "Friggin Joke Monkey"

    8,541 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    So true.
  17. VACowboy

    VACowboy Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

    3,805 Messages
    218 Likes Received
    I guess I'm naive, then. I don't know how anyone can "want" inaccurate reporting. To me, there's a huge difference between commenting with inaccuracy and commenting with bias.
  18. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

    24,671 Messages
    4,944 Likes Received
    It is what happens when a sport gets this popular. It has to be marketed for the masses as opposed to a smaller cross-section who knew what they were looking at.

    Years ago, sportswriters wrote their pieces in press boxes and they read like prose (or they wrote them after the fact over a bottle of rye, chomping on a cigar and it read like an epic).

    Look at the announcers even. When people as ridiculous and mentally stunted like Joe Buck and Chris Berman rise to the top of the heap, you have to be able to understand what the heap is made of. It is just the way things are now.
  19. HoleInTheRoof

    HoleInTheRoof Benched

    3,265 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    You just have to understand that most fans are ignorant. They don't study the game. They're just casual fans. They want microwavable sound bites and mindless entertainment.
  20. VACowboy

    VACowboy Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

    3,805 Messages
    218 Likes Received
    This. Yep.

    Oh well.

    Edited to add: I guess I don't see where it takes hours of technical film study to see that Doug Free is an athletic guy. Dukes just makes crap up.

Share This Page