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Ware and witten the washed up, nice guy crew

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Frozen700, Oct 27, 2013.

  1. yimyammer

    yimyammer Well-Known Member

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    fair enough, I think we all would need to know what Dez was saying before we draw any conclusions one way or the other. Listening to his interview, I'm inclined to believe his passion comes from a great place and isn't just being a loud mouth to cover for a lack of ability, talent or effort.

    We've all seen those players that make bold claims or discredit their opponent in an effort to pump themselves up by backing themselves into a corner in the hopes they'll fight their way out of it. I don't get that sense at all with Dez.
  2. CowboysYanksLakers

    CowboysYanksLakers Well-Known Member

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    I agree... It's time to clean house. It has been proven time and time again this core group cannot and will not win here in Dallas!
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  3. bracey

    bracey Active Member

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    Guess this guy is unprofessional too:



    This guy too:



    And before I get the, It's OK for QBs....no, that has nothing to do with it. It's OK for team leaders. Which Dez has become.
  4. dragon_mikal

    dragon_mikal Darth Jones strikes again! Zone Supporter

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    I agree we should wait and see what was said and I understand why he was frustrated.
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  5. CowboyStar88

    CowboyStar88 Well-Known Member

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    This is an emotional sport not the military. You aren't anyone to call someone a child. You're not in their shoes and have no idea what's being said or happening. You can sit on your soap box and call someone out all you want. If he was a 10 year old child I would agree but he's a grown man playing an emotional game and if you can't see the difference I feel sorry for you.

    My grand father was a Vietnam Vet a pilot and helped invent the night goggles and he was a very vocal man. Sorry it's all an opinion and doesn't make you right and everyone else wrong. Playing this sport for as long as I've had and been on a sideline where grown men have cried there is so much emotional when you are in fight or flight and high intensity
  6. BAT

    BAT Mr. Fixit

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    Cowboys could have used a healthy Ware today. Neither are washed up but there are a lot of fans with unrealistic expectations and limited memories.
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  7. chuffly

    chuffly Well-Known Member

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    Well said. I think Dez's heart is in the right place (and that was confirmed in my opinion by his postgame interview), and a little fire might be a useful counterbalance to some of the personalities on this team, the last tirade wasn't the time or place. When there is still time left on the clock and you have to get back in the game in a short bit, you can't start losing it on the sidelines. You just can't.
  8. CowboyStar88

    CowboyStar88 Well-Known Member

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    It's a football game it does not apply to real life jobs they are not held to the same standard not by the laws and not by anyone except for someone saying I would get fired if I did that at my job. Dumb comparison
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  9. dragon_mikal

    dragon_mikal Darth Jones strikes again! Zone Supporter

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    To each his own I guess.

    Tell your grand father thanks for his service.
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  10. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    Right. I don't think anyone really hates the passion that Dez displays. Nor do they mind if he's upset with how things played out. But there's gotta be more in-game awareness.
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  11. CowboyStar88

    CowboyStar88 Well-Known Member

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    He passed away working on the night goggles project.. But thank you.. Yours as well
  12. jobberone

    jobberone Orangutans make great guitarists Staff Member

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    He needs to learn how to channel that passion. It's ok to jump on a teammate but briefly then you let it go. And you can't do it often either. Irvin needs to talk to him as well as his counselor. That's a time for encouragement although for a young guy with that much passion for the game that's difficult.
  13. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    Well, that is what you get from a player with that competitive fire. We had another Bryant, Antonio. He threw his jersey at Parcells.

    For some stupid reason, I bet Irvin was smiling excited... liking him...and proud of him for his outbursts. Showing passion for the game and his teammates. I bet all of the team heard it...and I liked too.
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  14. Frozen700

    Frozen700 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly

    Dez has more balls and heart than anyone offense. Which is why we get no respect.....half the crap teams talk to us they would not dare step to another team and try them as hard
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  15. bbailey423

    bbailey423 Well-Known Member

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    you are right..call a spade a spade. those 2 are envisioning themselves in the ring of honor. And maybe the HOF. And they have been paid very well on top of that. But they are leaders of a core that has been the most disappointing era in Cowboys history. I have asked this question before. Have we EVER put anyone in the Ring of Honor with as little postseason success as these 2?
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  16. Dale

    Dale Forum Architect

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    Witten's one of those guys I badly wish wasn't associated with this era of failures. His toughness is a thing of legend, he's as classy as they come and he's devoted to his craft. On most teams, his approach would help swing the pendulum for a team. Here? It results in threads like these where he's associated with a decade of mediocrity.
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  17. mmohican29

    mmohican29 Well-Known Member

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    I get what you're saying but now you're basically asking Dez, the only magic trick left in the bag- who you've ignored all game despite his pleas- to make a play when he's been there all day to make them and not feel frustration? If he put his helmet on and said nothing and stood there at the LOS with :12 left I'd be upset. But in his mind it's all in vain, and it let's face it it is at that point.
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  18. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    Add me too. I agree with the lout.
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  19. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    Yup, the guy's PC through and through.

    Not a bad thing... or maybe it is.

    I don't know anymore.

    Irvin was gas and flame during games and people want to put out Dez's?
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  20. links18

    links18 Well-Known Member

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    If he's not threatening violence, I guess he's too soft.

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