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What do you guys make of Church?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by TTexasTT, Nov 18, 2013.

  1. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    We started with that intent and I believe we quickly realized that we did not have the personnel. I mean, it doesn't really matter if we run it 50/50 or even 40/60. Any time we are in that coverage, we are at a disadvantage in our Safety play IMO.
  2. CowboysYanksLakers

    CowboysYanksLakers Well-Known Member

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    I think he's playing good football... You don't get the pressure up front any secondary would average.
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  3. XxTDxX

    XxTDxX Active Member

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    Great tackler, great in run support.. Would be great if we had a rangy playmaking type safety to compliment him but we don't.
  4. hra8700

    hra8700 Active Member

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    He's the lowest level acceptable for a starting safety (you don't desperately need to upgrade, and you can live with it if the rest of the secondary is good). People throw out the word "average" too often. An average starter in this league is very good.
  5. supercowboy8

    supercowboy8 Well-Known Member

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    I think Church is a SS playing out of position at FS. I think in this tampa 2 defense Church could play WOLB and Carter would be better on the strong side. But that just IMO. This defense needs a roaming fast great cover FS like a Eric Berry, Jarius Byrd, Earl Thomas type.
  6. blackbull

    blackbull Well-Known Member

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    I laugh at the church haters. ESP ones saying his type becoming extinct. Like Chancellor isn't a part of the best secondary in the nfl. Ugh
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  7. mahoneybill

    mahoneybill Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    To me scandrick, minus some of his blatant jersey grab holds is playing very well.
  8. Chris in Arizona

    Chris in Arizona I am Death

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    He's good coming forward and awful going backwards. Today's NFL is a passing game. He could play in a 4-2-5 scheme but that's about it. Not a fan.
  9. Cowboys606

    Cowboys606 Active Member

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    I thank he would be better at linebacker
  10. cowboys1981

    cowboys1981 Well-Known Member

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    Church would be better suited as a LB on the weak side. This would solidify our LB corps and having Church and Lee plugging holes would make it virtually impossible to sustain a good rushing attack.

    Of course we would need to address a safety and I believe someone like Dion Bailey (USC) would compliment Wilcox well in the back end. He has range for coverage and is the "ball hawk" we've been wanting.
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  11. supercowboy8

    supercowboy8 Well-Known Member

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    Then he needs to play SS like chancellor and needs a earl Thomas next to him
  12. supercowboy8

    supercowboy8 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with all the above
  13. Picksix

    Picksix A Work in Progress

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    We'll see if a guy like Clinton-Dix is available, and if he is, whether we pull the trigger on him.
  14. supercowboy8

    supercowboy8 Well-Known Member

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    No thanks. Bama players are over rated. Just a great college team. Most players don't transition well. Clinton Dix isn't a earl Thomas type any ways.
  15. ak47kaehu

    ak47kaehu Active Member

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    Good tackler, average in coverage. He's doing his job.
  16. Picksix

    Picksix A Work in Progress

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    I hear you about Bama players. So is there someone coming out in the draft who might fit that description? Maybe the Reynolds kid from Stanford, or the Bailey kid from USC?
  17. dart

    dart Benched

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    Not A fan at all -gawd I hope they draft a real FS
  18. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    Right, just think how bad Chancellor would look if he were asked to take on Earl Thomas' duties for the Seahawks defense.
  19. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    Average to below average safety....not the biggest problem....certainly not the answer.

    Would he start on other NFL teams? In my opinion, very few.
  20. KDM256

    KDM256 Active Member

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    I don't think Church is a Pro Bowl Safety but I also don't think he's the weak link on Dallas defense either.. Church has had its ups & down this season just like the rest of his teammates but Church isn't at the top of my pecking order of guys i feel like we need to replace during the offseason.

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