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What the Lions did better than us in 2013

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by percyhoward, Jan 25, 2014.

  1. Picksix

    Picksix A Work in Progress

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    CJ:
    156 targets
    84 receptions
    12 TD's

    Dez:
    160 targets
    93 receptions
    13 TD's

    But yes, they did run the ball more than we did. And yes, it's not Garrett.
  2. Ultra Warrior

    Ultra Warrior 6 Million Light-years beyond believability.

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    Lions & Cowboys ended the season without a playoff birth, thus the Lions did jack better than us......other than being eliminated early.
  3. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    Do you want Dez to have Megatron's stats?

    Johnson (w/Linehan as OC)
    446 of 760 7245 yd 50 td 36 int 92.9

    Bryant
    293 of 464 4104 yd 40 td 10 int 111.3
  4. Next Years Champ

    Next Years Champ Active Member

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    Well..

    What the Lions did do is beat some teams with winning records..

    something we failed miserably on for the last 3 years.

    And what Detroit did or didn't succeed at statistically is not a reflection necessarily of Linehart
  5. DanteEXT

    DanteEXT Well-Known Member

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    Your head
  6. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    I'm only interested in his offense. What the whole team did (vs. teams with winning records, for example) would reflect on Linehan even less. Let's hope so, anyway, because in 2013, the Lions were 1-4 against teams with winning records. (Cowboys were 1-6) The Lions averaged 18.5 points per game in their four losses, and we averaged 26.7 in our six losses.

    During Linehan's tenure, Detroit was 4-35 against teams with winning records. They averaged 19.7 points in the losses, and 24.5 in the wins.

    Over the same period, Dallas is 11-24 against teams with winning records. We averaged 22.2 points in the losses, and 25.3 in the wins.
  7. manster4ever

    manster4ever Well-Known Member

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    great posts and points...Linehan is garbage, which is why he was let go.



  8. dstovall5

    dstovall5 Well-Known Member

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    I'm surprised at all the people who didn't catch on that the reason Percy is comparing these two offenses/teams is because Lions OC is rumored to be interested in Dallas, meaning there's a possibility he will be our OC.

    We did a lot of stuff better then Detroit and we were much more efficient, but they definitely were able to move the ball down field much smoother. If we were able to keep our potent RZ offense and efficiency (low turnover/high td), along with bringing in someone who can help this offense gain more yards, then this offense would experience a tremendous boost. Though, that could potentially give Garret a scapegoat by bringing in someone else this year so IDK about that.
  9. birdwells1

    birdwells1 Well-Known Member

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    Who were the Lions rbs in 2012?
  10. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    Team Passing
    3rd down only
    Dallas 70 of 137 792 yd 5.8 ypa 8 td 4 int 76.0
    (to Bryant) 16 of 34 207 yd 6.1 ypa 5 td 0 int 106.3
    Bryant's % of all 3rd-down targets: 25.0

    33.8% of all 3rd-down dropbacks resulted in a 1st down, 2.6% in an interception.
    41.2% of Bryant's 3rd-down targets resulted in a 1st down, 0% in an interception.


    Detroit 104 of 185 1398 yd 7.6 ypa 11 td 8 int 82.2
    (to Johnson) 24 of 49 403 yd 8.2 ypa 4 td 4 int 70.4
    Johnson's % of all 3rd-down targets: 26.9

    39.1% of all 3rd-down dropbacks resulted in a 1st down, 4.2% in an interception..
    46.9% of Johnson's 3rd-down targets resulted in a 1st down, 8.2% in an interception.



    all other downs
    Dallas 305 of 449 3432 yd 7.6 ypa 25 td 8 int 101.7
    (to Bryant) 77 of 125 1026 yd 8.2 ypa 8 td 2 int 102.3
    Bryant's % of all such targets: 28.2

    35.3% of all 1st-, 2nd-, or 4th-down dropbacks resulted in a 1st down, 1.7% in an interception.
    43.2% of Bryant's 1st-, 2nd-, or 4th-down targets resulted in a 1st down, 1.6% in an interception.


    Detroit 267 of 449 3249 yd 7.2 ypa 18 td 11 int 84.9
    (to Johnson) 60 of 107 1086 yd 10.1 ypa 8 td 5 int 96.6
    Johnson's % of all such targets: 24.3

    32.3% of all 1st-, 2nd-, or 4th-down dropbacks resulted in a 1st down, 2.4% in an interception.
    44.9% of Johnson's 1st-, 2nd-, or 4th-down targets resulted in a 1st down, 3.7% in an interception.
  11. Tenkamenin

    Tenkamenin Well-Known Member

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    Dez had 130+ yds in the first half against the Chiefs, for some reason in the second half we forgot he was on the field. I remember before the end of the first half Dez had single coverage in the red zone, just before the snap Dez was waving to Romo signaling single coverage, of course Romo doesn't see it and we settle for a field goal. Too many missed opportunities.....
  12. TwoDeep3

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    Brilliant rebuttal. I admire deep thinkers.
  13. TwoDeep3

    TwoDeep3 Well-Known Member

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    And if was suggested by Garrett Romo audibled off Dez and to that weak-arsed screen to TWill.
  14. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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  15. NJ22

    NJ22 Well-Known Member

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    This is the only stat I care about. And they were 17th in rushing and we were 24th.
  16. Redball Express

    Redball Express All Aboard!!!

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    Ok..apologies for not knowing the W-L records better..thanx for the update.

    Me, I don't spend that much time at NFL.com to copy and paste my answers.

    And since I've had 2 years of college statistics along with my degree..

    ..I can tell you that drawing concussions from your narrow random data is at best amateur.

    But keep trying.
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  17. Redball Express

    Redball Express All Aboard!!!

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    You know..

    there is empirical data and cumulative data.

    And there is an enormous number of ways to arrive at conclusions that lead to taking action.

    Do you even know what you are looking at with all these supposed facts your stats indicate?

    I appreciate your willingness to post so much data.

    But teams like the Cowboys pay enormous amounts of money to do this.

    In fact, the Cowboys were the first team to use computers to collect data.

    And they, along with the Jints, Steelers and some others..created BLEDSO..

    which was the first data coop in football in order to draft players..especially Undrafted players.

    In fact, you could say Dallas and especially TeX Schramm..

    invented everything we now take for granted when it comes to stats and how to use it.

    So..

    I don't have deaf ears about what you are posting..

    I would say be careful how you use it.

    Stats do lie.
  18. percyhoward

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    I think your question is better asked as a specific question about a specific stat.
  19. Zman5

    Zman5 Well-Known Member

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    So they piled up lot of yards but didn't score much? He'll fit right in with JG and his crappy offense.
  20. Silver N Blue

    Silver N Blue Well-Known Member

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