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Whatever Little efficiency in stimulus bill is now gone...

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by sbark, Feb 8, 2009.

  1. sbark

    sbark Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Obama Order Allows Unions to Drive Up Cost of Gov’t Contracts

    February 8, 2009 | Filed Under Barack Obama, Budget, Democrats/Leftists, Economy/Finances, Government, Corruption, Liberals, Media Bias, News, President, Publius Contributor, Socialism, Society/Culture, Taxes, Unions, Warner Todd Huston |
    -By Warner Todd Huston
    The newest in his series Executive Orders that are little else but sops to unions was uncorked in Washington on Friday, February 6. This one ordered the use of union labor for large-scale federal construction projects, eliminating 84 percent of the American contractors that are not unionized.
    Not only would this bill force unions on government projects, but the resulting rise in the costs of those projects would be incredible. This executive order — a re-establishment of a Clinton era order — will force federal projects to accept labor agreements and the resulting higher wages, benefits and collective-bargaining that comes with that.
    Naturally, the unions love this order. But the exorbitant costs that will be forced upon federal projects will be a bitter pill to taxpayers.

    It is also really an anti-worker policy as opposed to one that encourages American jobs. As president Kirk Pickerel of the Associated Builders and Contractors trade group reveals, “84 percent of U.S. construction workers do not belong to labor unions.”
    Looks like Obama has once again created a policy that only benefits a tiny number of America’s work force to the detriment of most of America’s construction workers.
  2. MetalHead

    MetalHead Benched

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    Messiah boy definitely has it all wrong.
  3. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    Not that I agree, but wouldn't this also reduce the amount of construction work that illegal immigrants could get, or can they join unions as well? I don't know much about how construction work gets done.
  4. sbark

    sbark Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    drastically slows down the effects of the stimulus bill.......no way 16% of contractors can hanlde the advertised work load the govt wants to push out via the stimulus bill........essentially what Romney & CBO are saying......the effects of stimulus is too slow into the economy for reasons such as this.

    now, unless a good share of the other 84% unionize..........

    or unless the stimulus bill is really nothing but a spending bill 90% and only a 10% stimulus bill.........
  5. MetalHead

    MetalHead Benched

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    Thomas Sowell sums it up in one line.
    This stimulus package is like mailing a letter to the fire dept. to tell them your house is on fire.
  6. irvin4evs

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    Unions are the enemy? LOL.
  7. sbark

    sbark Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    as is the pattern of every leftist group. Unions, Enviro, Education,Warmers,Fannie Mae,....they all start out in the best of objectives and intentions.....I remember as a child when Enviro meant not throwing garbage out the window....now it is prevention of Energy sources to an entire civilzation...except for AlGore and B.Frank......

    but they all grow to be virtual religions and outliving and outgrowing the nobel beginnings.... And we know how the left abhors any religion.......:p:


    "A liberal is a socialist with a wife and two children." - Source Unknown
  8. irvin4evs

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    Unions are always good. No exceptions. It's not a coincidence that the decline of the union and the failure of wages to match worker productivity over the past 40 years happened at the same time.

    Congrats on your dumb little theory.
  9. MetalHead

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    Go tell that to GM.
  10. irvin4evs

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    GM failed because they were morons, not because of unions.

    There were a hell of a lot more unions 40 years ago, and they weren't failing.
  11. MetalHead

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    Why don't you offer your extraordinary intelligence to them instead of posting here with the rest of the clueless right wing populace?
  12. ThaBigP

    ThaBigP New Member

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    Speaking of dumb little theories...
  13. ThaBigP

    ThaBigP New Member

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    So, employing 50,000 employees but being on the hook for health insurance for over 1,000,000 is a good thing, eh? "Dumb little theories" indeed.
  14. ScipioCowboy

    ScipioCowboy More than meets the eye. Staff Member

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    This is a crass generalization that borders on the ridiculous.

    I would agree that unions are a necessity. However, as with any institution or convention of man, they're not always good. Whenever you deem an organization infallible, you're giving them a dangerous amount of power.
  15. Rogah

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    I am afraid I am going to have to disagree with that naive belief regarding unions. I don't think a single aspect of our economy is "always good - no exceptions." I think unionized labor bears a large brunt of the problems facing our domestic auto industry (as well as the executives that signed very short sighted collective bargaining agreements).
  16. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Is it just me or are his posts actually deteriorating?
  17. Kangaroo

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    That is funny texas is a non Union state because we are a right to work state an our economy overall has not been as hard hit as other parts of the US.

    Funny how our homes cost less than in Union states cough cough Chicago and our cost of living is cheaper overall than cough cough place Like New York.

    Funny how Texas has more people moving here looking for work

    There is a reason after going back home for 1 year my Dad said now I remember why I left this fbomb place (he was working for a Union was a requirement of the job)
  18. sbark

    sbark Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    .....the workers inside the unions are the strength...among the best in the world......Support the Union workers.......

    Its the Union mngt itself that has sold out to collectivism...Mngt is in the hunt for money under the guise of "helping the downtrodden"----age old socialist ruse......all under the blanket of the evil Corptn's

    There is a reason Unions as a percent of labor force has been in a steady decline to decades. The only sector keeping numbers in double digits is that most Federal Employees are Unionized.....
  19. ThaBigP

    ThaBigP New Member

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    Like somebody else posted, unions are like pretty much any other contemporary, out-of-control program...started with the best of intentions and to address real problems. They, like government progams, have simply clawed well beyond the territory they were created to address.
  20. sbark

    sbark Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Whenever Govt throws money at a sector..be it College Education, Infrastructure, Agriculture...........the cost to do business just raises by the amount of govt money injected......

    best example is the govt always wanting to help everyone get a college education........the Univ.s just raise the tuition to eat up the "help" from the govt.......Govt throws money at Agric.---the rents and Machinery prices just go up to absorb it.........the Net profit in Ag over long term remains the same, but the risk of loss moves up.

    Obama wants Unionized contractors to get all the govt bids..........only 16% of contractors are unionized......what do you think will be the level of bids with 84% of the competition sitting on the sidelines....

    with that ratio.......even Jerry Jones might win a superbowl.

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