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Why don't we use Glenn the same way the Panthers use Smith and the Skins use Moss?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by TheHustler, Nov 7, 2005.

  1. TheHustler

    TheHustler Active Member

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    Terry Glenn
    5' 11" 193lbs

    Steve Smith 5' 9" 185 lbs

    Santana Moss
    5' 10" 190 lbs

    They are all about the same size. All quick as lightening.

    The Panthers and Skins get their guys the ball in open field and let them make plays. Why don't we do the same with Glenn?
  2. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Glenn is not nearly as strong as Steve Smith. And I don't believe he is nearly as fast or shifty as Moss.
  3. Portland Fanatic

    Portland Fanatic Active Member

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    It would be "creative" thinking...c'mon we don't do that here. :D
  4. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    In a lot of ways we do.

    Glenn is leading the league in yards per catch.

    Last I checked neither team had Keyshawn Johnson or Jason Witten to share receptions with. Those 2 WRs are getting all the passes in their offenses, while Glenn has to share the wealth.

    Maybe I am wrong but I am pretty sure Moss caught two long bombs from us that had nothing to do with run after catch.
  5. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

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    Glenn is good -- but he's just not in the same league as Moss and Smith.
  6. Skins26

    Skins26 New Member

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    lol, Brunell can't throw 72 yards.
    About 35 or so yards of that catch was YAC
  7. TheHustler

    TheHustler Active Member

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    Glenn does have a gaudy 20 yards per catch, he his YAC is pretty low. Most of the time he catches it and gets tackled.


    That's true, but I'm not talking about # of catches, I'm talking about types of catches. Most of Glenn's receptions are on fades where he gets tackled immediately, or on an out where he gets tackled/pushed out immediately. Moss and Smith takes screens and slants and take it to the house. I'd like to see Glenn get that chance.


    The passes against us not as much. But his highlights this year have included a lot of yards after the catch.
  8. Zman5

    Zman5 Well-Known Member

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    Both Smith and Moss were awesome punk/kick returners. That's why they are so good at running after the catch.
  9. JohnsKey19

    JohnsKey19 Well-Known Member

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    Glenn simply isn't in the same class as Moss or Smith when it comes to creating yards after the catch. His strength is creating seperation before the catch is made, then he's usually looking for the first place to fall on the ground or get out of bounds.
  10. Encore

    Encore Never Enough

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    IMO, We shouldn't use him the way. Only because I fear that getting him the ball in the middle of the field, or on quick hitch patterns will set him up for a big hit and he'll be done for the season.

    Not a risk I'd like to take.
  11. TheHustler

    TheHustler Active Member

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    You might be right, but I don't think he gets the chance. The plays we run for him are designed for him to catch it and get hit or go out of bounds.
  12. mullet

    mullet Member

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    I think Glenn and Moss are comparible players.

    But, Steve Smith is different - he is stronger. Steve Smith is running back like.
  13. JohnsKey19

    JohnsKey19 Well-Known Member

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    And thats by design. Parcells knows the player and knows where he's most comfortable. Terry hates getting tackled. Ever notice he tackles himself by falling to the ground almost as much as the opposition tackles him?
  14. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    We have Glenn to stretch the defense. Keyshawn to make the intermediate catches. Witten to run down the middle of the field. The Panthers don't have that kind of diversity. Smith has 55 catches, and their next highest WR has 17. So Smith has to run every kind of route. So I wouldn't call the Panthers more creative than the Cowboys. Their passing attack is much less diverse. Its all Steve Smith, all the time. I wouldn't call that "creative". I would call that limited. Effective thus far? Yep, but still limited.

    Washington is a little more diverse thans to Cooley, but the discrepency from Moss to their next highest WR is almost as stark as Carolina's.
  15. dbair1967

    dbair1967 Arch Defender

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    whats wrong with how we've been using Glenn? his numbers are very good

    plus with him you ahve to worry about the injury issue...he hasnt played many (if any) seasons where he hasnt missed a game...you dont want to overuse him..we definitely need him to make any sort of a run

    David
  16. Hiero

    Hiero New Member

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    Glenn is alot more fragile and older. 2ndly he isnt as quick as Moss, and not as strong as Smith who is deceptively strong actually. Would be exciting to see a wr screen and see him take it 80 yards though.
  17. 50cent

    50cent Well-Known Member

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    PP is more suitable for that role. He has more wiggle in his game than TG.
  18. Cowchips

    Cowchips New Member

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    Dallas top 3 receivers have 108 catches for 1547 yds. Carolina has 83 for 1338 and Washington has 103 for 1452.

    I'll take Dallas multi-dimensional situation over Washington and Carolina's one dimensional passing attack any day.
  19. stilltheguru

    stilltheguru New Member

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    i tried to tell everybody after steve torched newman he was top 5 and hes proving it.



    but lol @ people sayin moss is better then glenn.i dont believe that


    glenn is slightly better.


    steve is alot better than both tho
  20. kartr

    kartr New Member

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    I think you're the closest to being right. Both Smith and Moss are just better open field runners than Glenn. Also, you have to consider who's throwing the ball to Glenn, Bledsoe. He had a comparable receiver to Moss,Glenn and Smith in Lee Evans and whereas Evans had a good season, he was nowhere as explosive as he would have been had he had a play-making qb to play with. Qb's like Brunell and McNabb and Steve Young and Elway have the kind of mobility that gives a receiver time to get open if they're initially covered. If receivers don't get open immediately, Bledsoe-types will either take the sack and fumble or force the ball in there anyway and get it picked. This is why I thought the trade of Moss for Coles would benefit the Skins. Moss is just a better athlete than Coles. Coles is just fast, while Moss is fast and a good open field runner. Moss was more explosive with Quincy Carter last year than with Pennington and the same holds true with Brunell as his qb. Mobile qb's who can throw on the run and break a defense down create more big-play opportunities for an offense, because they put more pressure on the opposing teams defense.

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