1. Welcome to CowboysZone!  Join us!  Come on!  You know you want to!

Why Not Draft DeAngelo Williams ??

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by irvin88, Apr 25, 2006.

  1. irvin88

    irvin88 Active Member

    1,668 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    Is it just me, or did Julius look like he was 35 years old last year? He can't stay healthy. IMO, DeAngelo is gonna be better than Bush long-term, and he may be there around pick 18. Bush reminds me of Rocket Ismail so much it's scary. A 205 pound RB ?? He may have 2 exciting years before he breaks down.

    Everybody is talking LB here, but to me we have a REAL question mark at RB. I've seen DeAngelo run for 2 years now and he a stud. He had no line last year and was great. Just my 2 cents worth.
  2. 5 Super Bowls

    5 Super Bowls Member

    415 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    I have no problem picking Deangelo. He reminds me of Cadillac.
  3. StarMan

    StarMan Well-Known Member

    1,026 Messages
    87 Likes Received
    I'm not sold on Julius either. I think the jury is still out on him. The knock on him coming out of Notre Dame was his inability to stay healthy and he certainly hasn't proven otherwise so far.

    I wouldn't be upset if we took DeAngelo Williams. But I seriously doubt it will happen.
  4. irvin88

    irvin88 Active Member

    1,668 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    I just can't believe not more people are talking about him. Good chance Julius goes down-if that happens, teams won't respect our running game again this year. Even if JJ is healthy, is he any good ?? LKast year (besides at carolina) he ran like Emmitt did in Arizona. :confused:
  5. Rack Bauer

    Rack Bauer Federal Agent

    22,583 Messages
    527 Likes Received
    I really Really REALLY like DeAngelo Williams, but I can't see us taking him. Although our RBs aren't superstars, they are very solid, and both Barber and JuJo are capable of a 1500 yard season, IMO.


    If we only had JuJo or only had Barber, I'd say go for it. But we have both of them. We need to use that pick on the BPA that fills a need. RB isn't a need.


    That said, if we did draft him I wouldn't cry about it.
  6. irvin88

    irvin88 Active Member

    1,668 Messages
    0 Likes Received

    Hey, all I'm saying is I've seen him play 7 times the last 2 years and I CANNOT BELIEVE where the mock drafts have him going . If he played on USC the last 2 years he is #1 and Bush is end of round 1/early 2 with Sinorice Moss as a game breaker type.
  7. Rack Bauer

    Rack Bauer Federal Agent

    22,583 Messages
    527 Likes Received

    Sorry, but that's a bit overboard. No doubt he'd be rated higher then he currently is, but Bush is still the better RB. Bush is still the best player in this draft, by far.



    That said, Williams would be the clearcut #2 RB if he played at USC. Lendale White would be an afterthought cuz he would of rarely seen the field. He would of been sitting on the bench behind Bush and Williams.
  8. Smith22

    Smith22 Well-Known Member

    5,845 Messages
    267 Likes Received
    At 18, the value is there for sure. The biggest thing against him (other than us already having Barber and Jones) is he's lacking a bit in pass protection. That is a big NO NO in the Tuna's eyes. If we somehow did pick Williams, we would have to move either Jones or Barber.
  9. irvin88

    irvin88 Active Member

    1,668 Messages
    0 Likes Received

    Answer this question though-If DeAngelo Williams played on USC the past 2 years and Reggie Bush had played on Memphis the past 2 years who would be going higher in the draft ?? Williams is better suited for the NFL. When i see Reggie Bush I see Eric Metcalf/Dave Megget. My god, analysts are saying that Bush can hold up by only giving him 15 touches per game ? You really wanna draft a guy #1 that's only get 15 touches a game. 205 pound RB??
  10. Smith22

    Smith22 Well-Known Member

    5,845 Messages
    267 Likes Received
    Bush IMO has to get 20 -25 touches a game between the running and passing game. The guy is a matchup nightmare in the passing game. As far as the switching their college teams, I've heard the same comparisons used when talking about Cutler and Leinardt.
  11. Rack Bauer

    Rack Bauer Federal Agent

    22,583 Messages
    527 Likes Received

    Bush.

    And I don't know about Williams being "Better suited" for the NFL. You can use Bush a lot more ways then you can use Williams. And no one in this draft is better then Bush in the open field. No one's even close.


    Williams is gonna be a good one, but he's no Reggie Bush.


    And the reason bush only got 15 touches a game is cuz they had other weapons.

    Also, didn't DeAngelo Williams hurt his knee two seasons ago? Or am I thinking of Dontrell Moore? I don't know why, but I always get their names mixed up. I remember one of them getting hurt in a bowl game 2 seasons ago.


    Still, you're looking at what Bush might not be able to do. I'm looking at what he has shown he can do.


    Bush is a better runner then Williams. He's a MUCH MUCH better reciever then Williams. With Bush, you can come out in an Eye formation forcing the defense to come out in the base package. Then you motion Bush out wide and either you've got man coverage on a LB or a safety. If it's a LB the defense is screwed. If it's a safety then that leaves 1 safety to help with the deep routes. If both the outside guys run a go then at least one of them is in one on one coverage. YOu don't get that kind of respect with Williams in the passing game.
  12. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

    31,869 Messages
    7,589 Likes Received
    I like DeAngelo. JuJo has more potential than anyone on our team to be a superstar. No doubt, he was tentative last year and came back slow off of the high ankle sprain, but his injuries aren't chronic, and I don't think he's brittle. I'm expecting him to absolutely blow up this year.
  13. Rack Bauer

    Rack Bauer Federal Agent

    22,583 Messages
    527 Likes Received

    The OL will be the key. Not only do they have to at least be consistently solid, but they have to come out and play that way right away. JuJo has to gain confidence early in the season. For that to happen the OL will have to be at least solid early in the season.
  14. cowboyuptx

    cowboyuptx Member

    388 Messages
    18 Likes Received
    I'd rather select Patrick Cobbs (UNT) in the 5th or 6th round. He led the nation in rushing for 2003, then was hurt early in 2004. DeAngelo Williams, led the nation in rushing for 2004.
  15. Yeagermeister

    Yeagermeister Active Member

    47,576 Messages
    9 Likes Received
    DeAngelo hurt his knee as a freshman then broke his leg in our first bowl game and a high ankle sprain last year. He's had some injury problems also. Whoever drafts him is not only getting a great player but also a high quality person. He helped bring my Memphis team back from the dead to competing for bowl games...not the best ones but bowls none the less. If we were to draft him we could screw up the rest of the draft and I'd still be happy :D
  16. Zaxor

    Zaxor Virtus Mille Scuta

    8,398 Messages
    1 Likes Received
    I like Williams and would not be sad at all if we took him
  17. dbair1967

    dbair1967 Arch Defender

    30,783 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    ok...what if Reggie Bush faced the painfully mediocre opponents Deangelo Williams faced the past 3 yrs or so? what then?

    liek Rack said...Bush is a WAY better talent than Williams is

    David
  18. CrazyCowboy

    CrazyCowboy Well-Known Member

    32,183 Messages
    162 Likes Received
    Bush is by far the better back......
  19. dbair1967

    dbair1967 Arch Defender

    30,783 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    I posted this in the other kiss up to Deangelo Williams thread...

    read this from PFW on Deangelo Williams, pay attention to the bold parts-

    has a maxed out frame and will not get much bigger, rarely runs out of the I formation and alot of yardage came on delayed runs, not a powerful runner who is going to make a living running between tackles, does not like contact, needs to take better care of the football (read, he fumbles) not an accomplished blocker, decided to sit out with a mild injury vs Tennessee, the best defense he would face all yr and would not play hurt or show the heart of a champion (my insert, so people need to stop with the Emmitt comparisons) acts as if he is the mayor of Memphis and expects to be treated like royalty, not a great practice player and does not do alot of extra work to improve...has a big ego and could change afte a big payday, is shorter than scouts would like, does not have great size and durability is a concern, puts himself first and is not a great team player

    David
  20. Justis

    Justis New Member

    572 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    That's right, Walter Payton was an inferior talent too. Because he faced crappy competition.

Share This Page