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You are the GM, we need to sign a lineman before the draft

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by theranchsucks, Mar 30, 2013.

  1. theranchsucks

    theranchsucks Well-Known Member

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    Here are our options

    Brandon Moore: Position RG Age 33 Contract 2 years $5-8 million

    Andre Smith: Position RT Age 26 Contract 4 years $22-25 million

    Eric Winston: Position RT Age 29 Contract 2 years $5-6 million

    Don't take into consideration that we need this money that was freed up with the Romo contract......Doug Free will be released.
  2. AMERICAS_FAN

    AMERICAS_FAN Active Member

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    I go with Moore at G to have Bernadeaugh compete at C, and to provide stability at C (which i think Costa will beat out Bernadeaug for).

    It's also a short deal (1-2 years) so we can draft G for the near future.

    I would NOT get any RT in free agency if it means more than a 1-2 year deal. Thats too important a position to not be drafting it this April.
  3. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    I sign Moore and Smith!
  4. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    I'm my opinion, you sign Moore and draft a tackle. I especially love the second-round tackle value this year.
  5. Dion2288

    Dion2288 Active Member

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    At this point, I'd wait and see how the draft pans out.

    Draft Cooper in the 1st, if available.

    If draft works out for us this way, release Free and sign Winston.

    If that doesn't work out, sign Moore and let Free and Parnell battle it out, again.

    Either way, Bernadeau battles Costa at center.
  6. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    I doubt Moore and Wiston last until after the draft.
  7. cowboysooner

    cowboysooner Well-Known Member

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    I would not sign smith to a long term deal. Im not sure what his market is. Winston is not a great pass protector. But is a very good zone blocking guy. I don't think Moore is going to get close to four million per year.
  8. basstapp

    basstapp Well-Known Member

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    I would love to get a guard and draft Fluker to take over the RT spot. That would give us the ability to take BPA 2-6 rounds.
  9. Dion2288

    Dion2288 Active Member

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    This very well may be the case. But I'd still being willing to take that chance. If "the best RT on the market" (Smith) is still there, there's a good chance Winston will be, IMHO.
  10. jobberone

    jobberone Right turn Clyde Staff Member

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    I have no idea what the club will do here. How does Calahan feel about the interior? At C you have Costa who the club seems to feel can do the job. Bernie can play and there is Ski to compete there. At G you have Livings who seems capable when healthy. I'm not really too worried there. I wasn't that happy with Bernie at G. But there is some competition there. I know most feel there isn't anyone pushing for a job there but there are reasonable odds one guy already on the club who steps up to at least provide competition if not more.

    The interior, IMO, is a place to draft. This draft is deep in OL esp at G. If you want to pay your better players a second or more contract then you have to have some draftees contributing in their rookie contract.

    I don't see as much angst at tackle and this is the position that bothers me most on the entire team. Smith didn't exactly wow last year although I suspect he will play better this year. A healthy Livings will help shore up that side. Free plays well for a few plays then looks like it's his first day at the position. Parnell looked ok but he's not really better than Free although most here don't feel that way. He's an unknown. Maybe he'll beat Free out. There is nothing behind that although Cook can play RT. The swing tackle right now has to be Parnell. Unless Free steps up again then I wouldn't feel comfortable putting him on the left.

    So you're a tackle light. And that's the way we played last year which was uncomfortable for me. We were lucky a starter didn't go down and leave us scrambling for a swing tackle amongst a marginal group of tackles and that includes Smith.

    So we need a starter or swing tackle we can depend on at least on the right. Maybe Free or Parnell are the answer. I'm not really comfortable with that although again I don't know what the club thinks. I think many would agree that RT is a position that could easily stand an upgrade.

    A FA RT is risky as FAs at any position seem to be a gamble unless you can afford to get a known commodity there like a Long. And you're throwing money there that could also be used elsewhere; S and CB are my primary concerns left after tackle. So maybe they take a steady guy at RT that can adequately serve as a starter or backup there at the least giving depth. Or do they roll the dice and bet they can get that guy in the draft?

    I'd get an adequate backup in FA and draft an OT at 18. There are five OTs that will likely be drafted in the first round although one can argue the last two are bottom of the round at best picks. That's my bet.

    Get your G/C later on. Having said all that they may draft Cooper or even Warmack if there. There are good prospects at both G and T in the second and third so this could go either way. For that matter this draft is so deep don't get upset if they address both G and T later on.

    Pretty good list here: http://walterfootball.com/draft2013OG.php
  11. BIGDen

    BIGDen Dr. Freakasaurus Zone Supporter

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    That's the thing. If you knew you could get Moore and Winston after the draft, you could have that in the back of your mind when making draft decisions. But there are no guarantees. I'd sign a guy like Moore that would be an instant starter for us and come at a reasonable price. If Cooper or Warmack are there, I still draft them. Having Cooper, Moore, Bernie, and Livings is a good problem. Bernie can compete with Costa at center. I Livings is too expensive to be a backup, we can cut him. Or we can actually be deep at a position. Competition would be a good thing for everybody. Having Livings or Bernie on the bench would be great. During our dynasty we had guys like Cornish that could step in and our offense would still be effective.
  12. Prossman

    Prossman Active Member

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    We have a much better chance of grabbing a top guard at 18 vs OT, so grab Andre smith. I to would love to grab both, but Smith along with dumping free for the cap money is a win ,win in my book
  13. BIGDen

    BIGDen Dr. Freakasaurus Zone Supporter

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    It's hard to disagree with that logic. However, is Smith a RKOG? I seem to remember him being lazy or something.
  14. jobberone

    jobberone Right turn Clyde Staff Member

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    I agree with this completely. But the second tier of OTs aren't chopped liver. There are some flyers there as well. If Long has matured then he is very athletic, has the heritage, and may be able to play both sides. There's Watson, Fluker, Thomas, Jones, Williams, Armstead and more some who can play multiple positions. Some will go in the first and others later. I doubt Johnson is there at 18 but I'd consider trading up if he's there at 16. Thomas and particularly Jones are intriguing for their ability to play multiple positions. Both would likely start at RG for us and be able to be the swing tackle as well.

    Smith will likely sign with Cin but Winston and Moore are available. The interest in Moore suggests T may be the primary draft objective but who knows.

    It's a fun time of the year.
  15. AmishCowboy

    AmishCowboy if you ain't first, you're last

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    I would sign Moore, it would not affect our draft plans at all
  16. 44cowboys22

    44cowboys22 Active Member

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    Draft a G sign Smith. Your RT will face more elite DE/OLB than your G will face interior DT inside our division & NFC. Better G prospect at our drafting position
  17. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    It's too late. What's the point in scraping the bottom of the barrel? Cut Free and start Parnell or a draft pick.
  18. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    Option C: Moore and Ryan Harris. Should be able to fit both under the cap at around 2.5 each for this year. And then still draft Warmack/Cooper in the 1st. That should finally sure up the o line for at least the next 2 years.
  19. lwehlers

    lwehlers Well-Known Member

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    i would sign moore. moore would not cost to much at this stage in his carrer. smith overachived last year. the two previous seasons the bengals were trying to replace him before that. there is a reason why the bengals who have alot of cap space have not signed him to a long term contract. winston has bad knees and might end up on injured reserve at anytime during a season. that is one reason the chiefs gave up on him.
  20. udas

    udas Active Member

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    I am very interested in signing Moore, he would be a nice upgrade for the interior of the line at a reasonable price. I would be concerned about signing Andre Smith to the deal he wants because I wonder about him holding up against quicker des. In the case of Eric Winston, it may be better to ask free to take a pay cut and try kicking the tires with him. I'm not sold that Eric Winston would be that much better. If the Cowboys sign Moore and get another ol in the first two rounds it could solve problem areas along the line.

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