Video: FOX: Doug Gottlieb: Cowboys should trade up and draft Tua Tagovailoa 'We've seen Dak's ceiling'

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Look around at some of the top QB's. Brees, Rodgers, Brady …. none reached their peak by year 4. Why is it necessary to assume Dak has? Hell, this past year was entirely different than the previous 3. There obviously are still things to work on, but he clearly showed he can do more with his arm than the more conservative offenses of his first few seasons. Why can't he build on that.

By the way, before anyone claims I am, I am not saying Dak is the equivalent of Brees, Rodgers and Brady, I'm merely pointing out that growth and development doesn't have to pek by a player's 4th season.

Rodgers wasn't a starter until his fourth year and Brady had won two Super Bowls by his fourth year. Brees was mired in San Diego but still manage to win the division and make the playoffs in his fourth year.
Dak has had four years starting, and that with the best running back in football, one of the best offensive lines and, I dare say, better receivers than Brees, Rodgers or Brady had in their first four seasons (LT, notwithstanding).

Nevertheless, I think Dak has room to grow. This is going to be a very telling year for him, IMO. New coach who is an offensive-minded coach. This year, Dak needs to take a next step. The ceiling is getting lower each season.
 

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I wonder what else besides Dak and our #1 to Cinci for the #1 pick. I just wonder how greedy they'd be. :huh:
 

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Regardless both seasons were comparable. Dak and Romo passed for just over 4900 yards and both QBs ended up missing the playoffs at 8-8.
my point was everything was in favor for the QB to succeed in 2019 where in 2012 the odds were stacked against us
 

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I wonder what else besides Dak and our #1 to Cinci for the #1 pick. I just wonder how greedy they'd be. :huh:
I would send dak and coop, pick up a WR in the draft and Via free agency maybe get back Dez
 

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my point was everything was in favor for the QB to succeed in 2019 where in 2012 the odds were stacked against us

Numbers wise Romo had a successful season in 2012, however the team around him wasn’t very good. Everything “appeared” to be in favor for us to make a serious playoff run in 2019 but it didn’t turn out that way. Once again we underachieved. The talent never seems to live up to its billing. No one expected Dak to have to put the ball up as much as he did. Although Zeke put up over 1300 yards last season the running game was still inconsistent. Our defense that appeared to be on the rise was a disappointment as was our young LBs.
 

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The only way is if Tua falls because of his injury history and he's still on the board at 17. And, that's suggesting the staff lets Prescott go. There's no way we move up. None.
 

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We went 8-8 straight years with Romo. Dak is the best leader we’ve had since Troy Aikman. You have to be the only fan I’ve seen that’s dogged his leadership. He’s been great at times watch the games! Fans have become more overly critical of Dak due to the money he’s going to have to be paid. Fans look for all negatives with a player who’s overly expensive and look for all the positives with a player who can be had for cheap. Look at all the positives that have been said about Case Keenum and Taysom Hill because they’ll come cheap. No player is ever that bad to some fans if they come at a bargain price.

I've been following the Cowboys whole heartedly since 1972 rarely missing a game can you say that. I grew up in the Dallas area all my life can you say that. Now that is cleared you are saying Dak is the greatest leader the Cowboys have ever had......are you on crack cocaine ? ahead of Staubuch and many many others i can make a list of leader in Cowboys past and Dak couldn't sniff their jock straps. Many of these would not hold the Cowboys ransome on their contract especially if it meant losing others to free agency so your saying hes all in it for the team ? Now you tell me pal what has made him such a great leader to the most intelligent one ?
 

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Gottlieb has proven himself to be a turd time and time again and you can't take anything he says with more than a grain of salt. Its shock jock crap. NEXT.
 

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I've been following the Cowboys whole heartedly since 1972 rarely missing a game can you say that. I grew up in the Dallas area all my life can you say that. Now that is cleared you are saying Dak is the greatest leader the Cowboys have ever had......are you on crack cocaine ? ahead of Staubuch and many many others i can make a list of leader in Cowboys past and Dak couldn't sniff their jock straps. Many of these would not hold the Cowboys ransome on their contract especially if it meant losing others to free agency so your saying hes all in it for the team ? Now you tell me pal what has made him such a great leader to the most intelligent one ?

I think he meant "since" Aikman, which precludes all the really greats, however, not sure I agree with that, I'm not sure that Dak is that great leader that everyone says he is? Dak never had to compete for the QB position, he was given the job right from the jump.
 

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I think he meant "since" Aikman, which precludes all the really greats, however, not sure I agree with that, I'm not sure that Dak is that great leader that everyone says he is?

Maybe so but honestly some people will argue this but I would take a healthy Romo anyday over a healthy Dak. The reason Romo was much smarter understanding defenses and the offensive system than Dak. I also think Romo could consistently throw better than Dak. I think we didn't see the best Romo later on because of his consistent back issues. This is why I stated healthy for both give me Romo.
 

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Lee has been solid but he’s missed a ton of games. It took Jaylon three seasons to start playing well and he appeared to have taken a step back last season. He still can’t run fluidly. Tua suffered an ankle and hip injury last season. Whoever drafts him will be drafting a player they haven’t seen play a football game since that hip injury. There’s always some risk drafting a QB but he’s going to be carrying some extra risk.
Understood. But if I have a shot at a top linebacker in the 2nd.....I might have to think about it.
 

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Maybe so but honestly some people will argue this but I would take a healthy Romo anyday over a healthy Dak. The reason Romo was much smarter understanding defenses and the offensive system than Dak. I also think Romo could consistently throw better than Dak. I think we didn't see the best Romo later on because of his consistent back issues. This is why I stated healthy for both give me Romo.

Romo got the hell beat out of him with the teams he had, he basically kept the Cowboys somewhat in the picture, Dak came to a much more solid team than Romo got to play on. Romo, as much as people don't want to give him credit for, was one damn good QB, and Dak is not even close to a healthy Romo, just my opinion.
 

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I've been following the Cowboys whole heartedly since 1972 rarely missing a game can you say that. I grew up in the Dallas area all my life can you say that. Now that is cleared you are saying Dak is the greatest leader the Cowboys have ever had......are you on crack cocaine ? ahead of Staubuch and many many others i can make a list of leader in Cowboys past and Dak couldn't sniff their jock straps. Many of these would not hold the Cowboys ransome on their contract especially if it meant losing others to free agency so your saying hes all in it for the team ? Now you tell me pal what has made him such a great leader to the most intelligent one ?

If you research my posting history you’ll see that the first Cowboys game I ever watched was Super Bowl IV and have been following the team since the 1972 season. By the way I never said Dak was the greatest leader in Cowboys history, I said he’s the greatest leader since Troy Aikman. Try working on your comprehension skills instead of tossing insults at everyone. If you can’t see the leadership he’s provided for this team the past four years then you must be wearing blinders. He’s carried the team on his back in several games over the past four years. He’s run over defenders to move the chains in key 3rd down situations. It’s clear that players follow him and no one in the media has ever questioned his leadership. Do a Google and provide a link of anyone questioning his leadership. Good luck!
https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...plains-gets-tremendous-leadership-skills/amp/
https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...plains-gets-tremendous-leadership-skills/amp/

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/dak-prescotts-leadership-skills-set-him-apart/245226/?amp

https://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-co...tered-art-of-leadership-looking-for-doctorate
 

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If you research my posting history you’ll see that the first Cowboys game I ever watched was Super Bowl IV and have been following the team since the 1972 season. By the way I never said Dak was the greatest leader in Cowboys history, I said he’s the greatest leader since Troy Aikman. Try working on your comprehension skills instead of tossing insults at everyone. If you can’t see the leadership he’s provided for this team the past four years then you must be wearing blinders. He’s carried the team on his back in several games over the past four years. He’s run over defenders to move the chains in key 3rd down situations. It’s clear that players follow him and no one in the media has ever questioned his leadership. Do a Google and provide a link of anyone questioning his leader ship. Good luck!
https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...plains-gets-tremendous-leadership-skills/amp/

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/dak-prescotts-leadership-skills-set-him-apart/245226/?amp

https://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-co...tered-art-of-leadership-looking-for-doctorate

I'm fine with my compensation skills troll probably little smarter than you are. I have a tendancy when I read some people's post i don't pay them that close attention.

You also gain and lose leadership skills by being a team player not a greedy one. Do you realize Daks great leadership I mean greed can cost him other players that might make Dak not the same player he could be.
 
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Big difference AR has a ring and just played in the CC game. If you are trying to equate the talent level of AR and Dak it's not close.
Not at all.....I’m saying it a great quarterback like Rodgers has garbage yards....why do you guys think Dak is the only one?
 

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Romo got the hell beat out of him with the teams he had, he basically kept the Cowboys somewhat in the picture, Dak came to a much more solid team than Romo got to play on. Romo, as much as people don't want to give him credit for, was one damn good QB, and Dak is not even close to a healthy Romo, just my opinion.

100% agreed.
 

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I'm fine with my compensation skills troll probably little smarter than you are.

I’m not the one trolling, tossing insults at everyone while hating on our QB and questioning their leadership abilities. Everyone in the media including myself is smart enough to see Dak’s leadership skills. Stop wasting my time until you get a clue.
 

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Not at all.....I’m saying it a great quarterback like Rodgers has garbage yards....why do you guys think Dak is the only one?

I supported Dak up until this contract issue. I think hes a good and many times above average QB but i will say his passes are a little questionable and inconsistent at times. Maybe I will regain better feelings for him but I question his loyality to the Dallas Cowboys. I'm in agreement with comments from Emmitt Smith take a little less make it up in endorsements. This also can help the team retain Coop and others.
 

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I’m not the one trolling, tossing insults at everyone while hating on our QB and questioning their leadership abilities. Everyone in the media including myself is smart enough to see Dak’s leadership skills. Stop wasting my time until you get a clue.

Move along troll and go back a little and read who started the insults and get your memory checked out.
 
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