DB Logan Ryan Is A Perfect FA To Fill Byron Void

[cowboyblue22]

Logan Ryan makes the entire defense better day 1. SIGN HIM UP, within reason.

i agree he would but Stephen jones is pretty cheap so I don't think unless his asking drops way down the cowboys are in his future

 

[Redball Express]

More endorsement money playing for America’s Team + a very favorable tax situation kind of balances things out.

I’m actually glad Jerry has shied away from his cap-damaging, big splash ways. JMO.

I don't think Jerrah has a choice unless Jerrah buys an XFL team and calls it his own personal Farm Team.

 

[OmerV]

I would say, yes, most people were surprised at the low numbers of both deals. That seems to be the theme with Dallas and outside free agents. They never outbid anyone. If another team is actively interested in a free agent, they don’t ever seem to end up signing with Dallas. The simple reason for that is because Dallas is only interested in perceived bargains which you can’t get when other teams are also bidding for the player’s services. Dallas’ strategy seems to have evolved into sit, watch, wait, and then pounce when a bargain presents itself.

Fans don’t set the market, so if they were surprised that isn’t relevant. As the other poster said, if the Cowboys didn’t pay market value they wouldn’t be able to sign players at all.

 

[Cowboys22]

Fans don’t set the market, so if they were surprised that isn’t relevant. As the other poster said, if the Cowboys didn’t pay market value they wouldn’t be able to sign players at all.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for them to actually pay an outside free agent market value because it hasn’t happened in some time and likely won’t anytime soon.

 

[OmerV]

Don’t hold your breath waiting for them to actually pay an outside free agent market value because it hasn’t happened in some time and likely won’t anytime soon.

So, your contention is Dix and McCoy took a fraction of their market value to sign with the Cowboys ... why would they do that?

 

[Kaiser]

That's silly, they pay the market, otherwise they would not get anybody. So you are saying that McCoy took 50 cents on the dollar? Dix?

Exactly, the issue this year (so far, anyway) isn't that we are offering half of what guys are worth, its that Byron Jones and Robert Quinn got offers for twice what they are worth.

 

[Kaiser]

So, your contention is Dix and McCoy took a fraction of their market value to sign with the Cowboys ... why would they do that?

Last year Dix got 3 million in salary with 500K guaranteed. This year Dallas gave him 4 Million with 2.5 Million guaranteed. Doesn't look like a paycut to me.

 

[Cowboys22]

So, your contention is Dix and McCoy took a fraction of their market value to sign with the Cowboys ... why would they do that?

I think most would contend their contracts were on the low side for what they potentially will offer just like Cobb and Quinn last year. That’s what it takes for Dallas to pull the trigger. They don’t compete with other teams for players and just pay whatever it takes to get them. They look for just these types of situations. Highly thought of players who for whatever reason can be had below what others might be getting. They may express interest but if the player has other interested teams, Dallas usually bows out. Trufant is a perfect example. They reached out, found out his price wasn’t that of a bargain, so what happened? They bowed out and signed Brown. I’m not saying McCoy and Dix had bigger deals on the table. I’m simply saying at the numbers they signed for, most everyone would call them bargains and that is what it takes for Dallas to pull the trigger.

 

[Ranched]

After his demands come down DAL should so we're not forced to take a corner in the 1st. I'd rather pay a decent CB 8-10M then have to use a 1st.

i agree he would but Stephen jones is pretty cheap so I don't think unless his asking drops way down the cowboys are in his future

 

[Rayman70]

this potential signing would give us more positional/draft flex. This is a player that makes sense. ALSO the colts just surprisingly released one of their best corners in Pierre Desir. He is an interesting player, high production and a really good cover guy.

 

[OmerV]

I think most would contend their contracts were on the low side for what they potentially will offer just like Cobb and Quinn last year. That’s what it takes for Dallas to pull the trigger. They don’t compete with other teams for players and just pay whatever it takes to get them. They look for just these types of situations. Highly thought of players who for whatever reason can be had below what others might be getting. They may express interest but if the player has other interested teams, Dallas usually bows out. Trufant is a perfect example. They reached out, found out his price wasn’t that of a bargain, so what happened? They bowed out and signed Brown. I’m not saying McCoy and Dix had bigger deals on the table. I’m simply saying at the numbers they signed for, most everyone would call them bargains and that is what it takes for Dallas to pull the trigger.

You didn’t say they didn’t pay high priced contracts, you said they didn’t pay market value. Is it, or is it not your contention that the Cowboys didn’t pay market value for McCoy and Dix?

As for paying “whatever it takes” to get free agents, that’s how teams get in a bind with the salary cap.

don’t get me wrong, I don’t disagree that the Cowboys could do more, but it won’t work to go on a spending spree either. There is a middle ground somewhere.

 

[aikemirv]

I think most would contend their contracts were on the low side for what they potentially will offer just like Cobb and Quinn last year. That’s what it takes for Dallas to pull the trigger. They don’t compete with other teams for players and just pay whatever it takes to get them. They look for just these types of situations. Highly thought of players who for whatever reason can be had below what others might be getting. They may express interest but if the player has other interested teams, Dallas usually bows out. Trufant is a perfect example. They reached out, found out his price wasn’t that of a bargain, so what happened? They bowed out and signed Brown. I’m not saying McCoy and Dix had bigger deals on the table. I’m simply saying at the numbers they signed for, most everyone would call them bargains and that is what it takes for Dallas to pull the trigger.

They still pay the market though-it just they are not
Shopping for diamonds, They typically pay their own known players not shop for that start FA-I don’t think there is anything wrong with that philosophy-draft well and pay your own guys!

 

[birdwells1]

They still pay the market though-it just they are not
Shopping for diamonds, They typically pay their own known players not shop for that start FA-I don’t think there is anything wrong with that philosophy-draft well and pay your own guys!

The problem with that philosophy is that it hasn't worked.

 

[charron]

That's silly, they pay the market, otherwise they would not get anybody. So you are saying that McCoy took 50 cents on the dollar? Dix?

They kinda did. Dix is being paid **** heath got. I would have guessed dix could have gotten more and thought he was paid about 7 last year but not sure.

 

[Kingofholland]

Guessing we go to the draft to fill CB, based on the recent signings of reserve cbs.

 

[mattjames2010]

Going to return to some of these threads later in the year when a lot of people wanted us throwing pennies to CBs and our secondary takes a giant leap backwards.

 

[aikemirv]

The problem with that philosophy is that it hasn't worked.

I don’t think the philosophy is the problem.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

DB Logan Ryan is a Perfect Free Agent Fit for the Cowboys if His Price Keeps Dropping
By Dylan McCaffrey | Mar 21 2020

Bolstering the ranks on defense is the top priority for the Dallas Cowboys after their one-time Pro Bowler, Byron Jones, departed for the Miami Dolphins.

Luckily for them, Logan Ryan is still out there, and he's the best cornerback available on the market. The only thing standing between Ryan and an NFL contract?

His unwillingness to take a pay-cut. But as time wears on, the chances increase that he'll relent. When that day comes, Dallas needs to get busy and get a deal done.

https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0OVUUKUm?s=a99&pd=031p68Fu

No, drafting a CB in the early rounds needs to be done. Use the free agent money for more help at WR or the DL.

 

[ESisback]

I think most would contend their contracts were on the low side for what they potentially will offer just like Cobb and Quinn last year. That’s what it takes for Dallas to pull the trigger. They don’t compete with other teams for players and just pay whatever it takes to get them. They look for just these types of situations. Highly thought of players who for whatever reason can be had below what others might be getting. They may express interest but if the player has other interested teams, Dallas usually bows out. Trufant is a perfect example. They reached out, found out his price wasn’t that of a bargain, so what happened? They bowed out and signed Brown. I’m not saying McCoy and Dix had bigger deals on the table. I’m simply saying at the numbers they signed for, most everyone would call them bargains and that is what it takes for Dallas to pull the trigger.

Which is contrary to the cap hell they were in for years when Jerry liked to make the Big Splash. No matter what the Cowboys do, there’s a chorus of boos.

 

[birdwells1]

I don’t think the philosophy is the problem.

I think it is, being prudent is a good thing if you're saving for something. Say Mahoomes was going to be a fa in 2 years and a particular team was going to make a run at him. I could understand being cheap because you need to to be in a position to offer him the most.

In Dallas they aren't saving for anything, they've been doing this for about 7 or 8 years now and it hasn't paid off yet.

Even when they make good selections like Quinn, we only reap the rewards for 1 year because it's a show me deal.