Duane Thomas: The Cowboys' Rising Star

MaineBoy

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Irvin did not help matters.

you talking about “Drop Your Pants Lance” who was married to or dated a bombshell name Joey Heatherton ?
That sums it up right. I do think he was bipolar. Today, he would get treatment. He was also under a lot of financial pressure. He didn't make anywhere near what even a scrub makes today. He owed money,and money was tight. When he tried to get a raise, the team refused. I'm sure that frustration just added to whatever else he was going through.

This ! His refusal to talk was a form of protest for them not reworking his contract.
 

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Comparing Duane to Dez simply verifies that America's Cowboy is either a young man in his teens or unaware of our proud history.
Duane was a special talent and chose the road of silence to rebel against cheap and most talented GM Tex Schramm.
There's a part of me that's still a young man, thank you very much, but I am aware of our proud history. Of course, Duane and Dez were different in how the acted, but they eventually were similar in how they were distractions to the team. That's what I meant, Pappy.
 

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Ok. So that makes him an expert on everything?

That’s sort of like a celebrity telling you how you should think.

Brown was someone people in that community looked up to and he was willing to stand up for those struggling through Civil Rights. Not sure how old you are or if you even lived through the civil rights of the 60's
 

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Could have been 2 of the best Cowboys ever based on talent....though I think Duane did fumble on the 2 yard line in the Super Bowl against the Colts that could have made the difference. Believe it was his rookie year. What coulda been.
yeah ironically Duane was taking over for Calvin Hill 1969 rookie of the year who had a fumbling problem. Duane could have been great, easily a career of at least 8000 yards or more
 

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Duane Thomas was a great player in a tough spot. This was before free agency existed in any form. Duane was clearly one of the best running backs in the game but was earning peanuts on his rookie deal. Because there was no free agency, there was no “renegotiate” pressure on teams to pay more than the contract required. And, TV money had not yet skyrocketed, so teams had to pinch pennies. He was worth more money, but couldn’t get it. He knew it, the team knew it. So he sulked and became anti-social. He was the same in San Diego because the only thing that changed was the team, not his paycheck. He only had two choices: take what they would give him or quit. He eventually chose to quit.
Another point I would make is that press coverage was very different then. Reporters were so pro-team that they ignored players salaries and complaints about being the “property” of the team that drafted them. If a player did not toe the team line, he was painted as the problem. The team could do no wrong. As a consequence the average fan invariably blamed the player who took a stand and disrupted the team. (Duane’s silence did not disrupt the team. They won a superbowl during his “silence”.)

Did Duane handle it incorrectly? Yes, but he was young, angry, and ill-advised.

He was a great player, but if things had not played out the way they did, Tony Dorsett would not have been a Cowboy.

And for what it is worth, Duane did not fumble in the Superbowl against the Colts.


This is a good, long article about Thomas:

https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/the-lonely-blues-of-duane-thomas/

Duane took his vows of silence late in the third quarter of the Super Bowl. It came unceremoniously, immediately after he fumbled away a touchdown that might have won the game. But first, Duane sat on the bench and cried. “I lost the game for us,” he told Kiner. But that’s all he would say.
 

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The Cowboys brought Duane Thomas back to training camp in 1976, but ended up cutting him. That he was willing to try out for Dallas again and they were willing to at least see what he could do in 1976 is telling.

I would like to know the full aspects of Thomas' 3 year rookie contract. I've only ever heard it was $20k. Back then that was the equivalent of roughly $140k in today's money. Heard somewhere that Larry Csonka was paid $20k his rookie season in 1968. I don't know if that is true or the full aspects of his rookie contract, either. I don't doubt Thomas was underpaid because Schramm was good at getting value, but I do think $20k was good money in the early 1970s.
 

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Duane Thomas was a great player in a tough spot. This was before free agency existed in any form. Duane was clearly one of the best running backs in the game but was earning peanuts on his rookie deal. Because there was no free agency, there was no “renegotiate” pressure on teams to pay more than the contract required. And, TV money had not yet skyrocketed, so teams had to pinch pennies. He was worth more money, but couldn’t get it. He knew it, the team knew it. So he sulked and became anti-social. He was the same in San Diego because the only thing that changed was the team, not his paycheck. He only had two choices: take what they would give him or quit. He eventually chose to quit.
Another point I would make is that press coverage was very different then. Reporters were so pro-team that they ignored players salaries and complaints about being the “property” of the team that drafted them. If a player did not toe the team line, he was painted as the problem. The team could do no wrong. As a consequence the average fan invariably blamed the player who took a stand and disrupted the team. (Duane’s silence did not disrupt the team. They won a superbowl during his “silence”.)

Did Duane handle it incorrectly? Yes, but he was young, angry, and ill-advised.

He was a great player, but if things had not played out the way they did, Tony Dorsett would not have been a Cowboy.

And for what it is worth, Duane did not fumble in the Superbowl against the Colts.


Good post!
 

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yeah ironically Duane was taking over for Calvin Hill 1969 rookie of the year who had a fumbling problem. Duane could have been great, easily a career of at least 8000 yards or more
Duane took over for Hill because Hill was injured, I believe it was a toe injury.
 

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The Cowboys brought Duane Thomas back to training camp in 1976, but ended up cutting him. That he was willing to try out for Dallas again and they were willing to at least see what he could do in 1976 is telling.

I would like to know the full aspects of Thomas' 3 year rookie contract. I've only ever heard it was $20k. Back then that was the equivalent of roughly $140k in today's money. Heard somewhere that Larry Csonka was paid $20k his rookie season in 1968. I don't know if that is true or the full aspects of his rookie contract, either. I don't doubt Thomas was underpaid because Schramm was good at getting value, but I do think $20k was good money in the early 1970s.
Yep, by 76 he was done physically. I believe he had become a vegan so it has been said that he had lost all of his strength and quickness.
 

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Yeah you can go back on YouTube now and watch the 1970 playoff game vs SF. Craig Morton was QB and Duane was basically the entire offense.

I got the tape of the Dallas/SF championship game that year. I think Morton completed EIGHT passes out of 14 thrown. Basically every play was Thomas.
 

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I got the tape of the Dallas/SF championship game that year. I think Morton completed EIGHT passes out of 14 thrown. Basically every play was Thomas.
Yep he was a beast. Somebody put the game on YouTube about two months ago. Team was run dominant and fundamentally sound.
 

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Brown was someone people in that community looked up to and he was willing to stand up for those struggling through Civil Rights. Not sure how old you are or if you even lived through the civil rights of the 60's

54. Again, that wouldn’t make him an authority on everything.

Would that make Jim Brown an expert on medicine? Farming? A chess expert? An expert on the mating habits of the two toed sloth?

I’m just saying....
 
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