A Comment and Questions for the Dak Doubters

[NotForLong]

Dak did not have competition. Moore broke his leg and was done for the year, which moved Dak to #2. Then Romo went down in the pre-season, moving Dak to #1. He was playing incredibly well while Romo was healing up that it made it nearly impossible to pull in him favor of Romo once Romo was 100% ( I personally would have pulled the trigger and put Romo back in, but that's just me). Dak got the QB1 job by default and made the absolute most of his opportunity. Don't make it seem like the competition from the other QBs on the roster forced him to raise his game to the point where he took the job from Romo, because that did not happen.

Dak played like a man possessed because he knew if he wanted to keep the Job of starter he had to keep Romo on the Bench.

He played lights out and produced one of the greatest rookie performances that can never be forgotten. He played so well the Garrett shut down the request from Romo. All Romo asked for was an open competition.

From the point that Romo conceded in Nov. of 2016 Dak has had no competition. This has made him complacent & lackidasical. Even in his last year he played uninspired.

I believe we will see the best of Dak this year.

Its the Media that will create the Circus. I hope it doesn't tear this team and Cowboy Nation apart. We shall see how Dak handles the pressure because his Fan boys will follow his lead.

If by chance Dalton out performs him. I pray he is Humble in Defeat.

Otherwise its gonna get very ugly . Especially with the 'Baiters waiting in the wings. (Stephen A. And Sharpe) just waiting to cause a splinter in the Cowboy's Nation Unity

 

[starcity214]

Make no mistake.

Most of his “doubters” are locked into their positions. Dak could be MVP and win the Super Bowl and it still wouldn’t be enough.

They’ll still say he’s “average” (no matter what the numbers say) and any QB could’ve done that with this supporting cast. That I can promise you.

They’re losers. Dak’s a winner. Losers usually resent winners, especially anonymously on the internet.

"Dak could win MVP and his doubters blah blah blah"


Dak will never win an MVP.

Or should I say, he shouldn't..

Think about it, when Zeke went down, Dak looked like crap. even guys like Carter didn't play as bad as Dak did in that stretch of games.

When Tyrone Smith went down, Dak looked like crap.. some even doubted if he was ever going to get over the glitch.

When Amari wasn't here, Dak looked like crap.
The Jones boys had to give up a 1st in order to turn things around..

Sure, all players need help around them.

But who would you rather have, Mahomes and a practice squad team, or Dak and a practice squad team?

That is the difference.

Dak isn't talented enough.

I'm sorry, that's just the truth.

Dak doesn't have a cannon like Favre..

He isn't some braniac nerd like Peyton Manning..

He isn't as big as Cam Newton in his prime..

He isn't as fast as Lamar Jackson..

He isn't as accurate as Brees..

What is Dak elite at?

Nothing.

Just as Average as Dalton or Jacoby Brissett..

Why can't you people see it?

Imagine paying Dalton 40M a year..SMH

 

[NotForLong]

Many times you have not supported Dak.

I wear a Dak jersey on Sundays. Straight talk. Every year I have hopes. Each year frustrated.

I feel the biggest factor has been the Fact Garrett was a phony Beta Male that couldn't handle NFL alpha Men.

Where as Romo had the aging but still fiery Parcels during his "incubation" Dak a flawed QB coming out was left with Garrett as a mentor. Everyone has turned a blind eye to Dak's flaws & they have never been addressed.

This policy has done more harm then good in Dak's development.

Now Dak finally has a legit Head Coach and the contract Fiasco took place. No one is enjoying this. I believe it is hurting everyone.

Now Dalton is here and more then anything the Price to Value is at a 80% difference. Which is significant.

Dalton played at a High level when AJ Green was healthy. Now he is team mates with 3 AJ Greens and a stud RB.

If given the chance Dalton will perform

I am looking at 2 things happening. In which I see as a Win Win. The competition lights a fire under Dak & he becomes uber focused & recaptures the magic from 2016.

Or Dalton who is equally focused becomes the starter of his home team. Oh it just so happens his oldest is 6 and will be attending school. How beautiful would it be for the hometown hero to stay home and raise his kids.

Dalton his equally hungry.

2 Hungry QB's I like that

 

[Ranched]

But if you feel you need to elaborate, then tee it up.

 

[Typhus]

Make no mistake.

Most of his “doubters” are locked into their positions. Dak could be MVP and win the Super Bowl and it still wouldn’t be enough.

They’ll still say he’s “average” (no matter what the numbers say) and any QB could’ve done that with this supporting cast. That I can promise you.

They’re losers. Dak’s a winner. Losers usually resent winners, especially anonymously on the internet.

I disagree,, If Dak were to win a Lombardi, I would even buy his Jersey.
Success changes even the biggest doubters opinions one way or another.
I am man enough to admit when Im wrong,,, so Dak… go prove me and all the other doubters wrong.
I have a bigger issue with those that cant handle criticism of those they idolize.

 

[NotForLong]

"Dak could win MVP and his doubters blah blah blah"


Dak will never win an MVP.

Or should I say, he shouldn't..

Think about it, when Zeke went down, Dak looked like crap. even guys like Carter didn't play as bad as Dak did in that stretch of games.

When Tyrone Smith went down, Dak looked like crap.. some even doubted if he was ever going to get over the glitch.

When Amari wasn't here, Dak looked like crap.
The Jones boys had to give up a 1st in order to turn things around..

Sure, all players need help around them.

But who would you rather have, Mahomes and a practice squad team, or Dak and a practice squad team?

That is the difference.

Dak isn't talented enough.

I'm sorry, that's just the truth.

Dak doesn't have a cannon like Favre..

He isn't some braniac nerd like Peyton Manning..

He isn't as big as Cam Newton in his prime..

He isn't as fast as Lamar Jackson..

He isn't as accurate as Brees..

What is Dak elite at?

Nothing.

Just as Average as Dalton or Jacoby Brissett..

Why can't you people see it?

Imagine paying Dalton 40M a year..SMH

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

"Dak could win MVP and his doubters blah blah blah"


Dak will never win an MVP.

Or should I say, he shouldn't..

Think about it, when Zeke went down, Dak looked like crap. even guys like Carter didn't play as bad as Dak did in that stretch of games.

When Tyrone Smith went down, Dak looked like crap.. some even doubted if he was ever going to get over the glitch.

When Amari wasn't here, Dak looked like crap.
The Jones boys had to give up a 1st in order to turn things around..

Sure, all players need help around them.

But who would you rather have, Mahomes and a practice squad team, or Dak and a practice squad team?

That is the difference.

Dak isn't talented enough.

I'm sorry, that's just the truth.

Dak doesn't have a cannon like Favre..

He isn't some braniac nerd like Peyton Manning..

He isn't as big as Cam Newton in his prime..

He isn't as fast as Lamar Jackson..

He isn't as accurate as Brees..

What is Dak elite at?

Nothing.

Just as Average as Dalton or Jacoby Brissett..

Why can't you people see it?

Imagine paying Dalton 40M a year..SMH

I'm going to take a snapshot of this post then frame it !!!!!

 

[ElGatoGrande]

It has taken me a long time to come to terms with this board. Maybe all message boards. I don't believe many times does one poster ever change the mind of another poster. Even with burning bush proof mushed in the doubters face. So I am not here to praise Dak, or convince you of something you currently do not believe.

My position. I believe, with the team's Dak has played for since coming to the Cowboys, - questionable receivers, lack of defense, false accusations about a significant piece and ultimate suspension....ect. - to me...............TO ME............... I have seen progress by Dak and believe he has superior leadership qualities, and enough talent to lead this team to the promised land. Provided he has a real team and not all of the pressure is on him alone.

However, that could change if he had all the skill players and a defense and failed. So I am riding the fence with a positive attitude, but a show me inner voice.

Having said that I would like to ask the doubters a few questions. Keep in mind there is no trick about these questions. Your opinion is yours and counts no more or less than anyone else here.

QUESTIONS

Were Dak to play under the tag this season, and after all is said and done the Dallas Cowboys win the Super Bowl. Dak plays within himself, but it is a true team win, and not some Elway 97 yard drive to a walk off victory.

Dak will still need a new contract, or tagged, or walk.

If Dallas, at that time, considering the results, offered Dak a contract which compensation was an average of 40 million a year, or at least above 38 million would you:

Still be a doubter?
Still be disappointed he wants that salary?
Opposed to reupping him with a new contract?
In favor of forcing him to play under a tag the coming season?
Just as soon let him walk since his heroics was not enough to say he is the real deal?

I don't need the why because I'm pretty certain I have read all your thoughts on him. But if you feel you need to elaborate, then tee it up.

Maybe we can have a discussion without the acrimony concerning Dak.

The premise is somewhat flawed here, Dak has his doubters because they don't see him competing in big games against playoff caliber opponents. In order for the Cowboys to win the Superbowl this would have to change, whether it's due to the new coaching philosophy or a sudden propensity to quickly read defenses and pull the trigger on an accurate throw there would have to be a fundamental change that would allow the Cowboys to win the Superbowl and to allow the doubters to stop doubting. So would doubters finally be able to stop doubting if the Cowboys win the Superbowl? Of course!

 

[CCBoy]

Cowboys at home unable to move the ball (a more than usual phenomenal) and all of a sudden you start hearing in the back-ground chants of ....Andy....Andy....Andy...Andy...trust me this will become a reality this coming season!

Get a room...

 

[CCBoy]

If only he had...this thread would not exist nor an unsigned high contract. WoooHooo

Has he earned it by the Dallas standards yet? No, he hasn't. Has he improved? Yes.

 

[landryscorner]

It has taken me a long time to come to terms with this board. Maybe all message boards. I don't believe many times does one poster ever change the mind of another poster. Even with burning bush proof mushed in the doubters face. So I am not here to praise Dak, or convince you of something you currently do not believe.

My position. I believe, with the team's Dak has played for since coming to the Cowboys, - questionable receivers, lack of defense, false accusations about a significant piece and ultimate suspension....ect. - to me...............TO ME............... I have seen progress by Dak and believe he has superior leadership qualities, and enough talent to lead this team to the promised land. Provided he has a real team and not all of the pressure is on him alone.

However, that could change if he had all the skill players and a defense and failed. So I am riding the fence with a positive attitude, but a show me inner voice.

Having said that I would like to ask the doubters a few questions. Keep in mind there is no trick about these questions. Your opinion is yours and counts no more or less than anyone else here.

QUESTIONS

Were Dak to play under the tag this season, and after all is said and done the Dallas Cowboys win the Super Bowl. Dak plays within himself, but it is a true team win, and not some Elway 97 yard drive to a walk off victory.

Dak will still need a new contract, or tagged, or walk.

If Dallas, at that time, considering the results, offered Dak a contract which compensation was an average of 40 million a year, or at least above 38 million would you:

Still be a doubter?
Still be disappointed he wants that salary?
Opposed to reupping him with a new contract?
In favor of forcing him to play under a tag the coming season?
Just as soon let him walk since his heroics was not enough to say he is the real deal?

I don't need the why because I'm pretty certain I have read all your thoughts on him. But if you feel you need to elaborate, then tee it up.

Maybe we can have a discussion without the acrimony concerning Dak.

Dak has no true rapport with any of his current receivers...not even Amari.
Dak is not an accurate quarterback
Dak's pocket presence is subpar

I can continue but you get the picture...he is not worth what he wants as a cowboys fan I cannot support DAK and I WONT

 

[Nav22]

If he was MVP and won a SB, he would be successful. Everyone would love him.

But he is not. He has rose to the occasion in a meaningful game one time, in the Seattle playoff game, when Zeke had 137 yards and the defense played well. Even then, he had average stats.

“Even then, he had average stats”

Thanks for making my point for me. Even when he wins, his “doubters” will find a reason to strip him of credit.

 

[Nav22]

Team game
Always pure fact

I will say this regarding the 8-8 seasons---I find those from 2011-2013 (with some of the leagues very worst defenses, Run games and Olines) to be far more explainable than the 8-8 in 2019.
The overall roster was WAY better and younger last year than in those years.

You’re right, but 2019 was a very rare outlier.

We lost practically every close game and finished with the NFL’s 6th-best points differential. We didn’t win a single game all season in which we scored fewer than 30 points.

That’s a big reason I’m optimistic about a bounce-back year in 2020. No way we lose all the close games again.

 

[Nav22]

"Dak could win MVP and his doubters blah blah blah"


Dak will never win an MVP.

Or should I say, he shouldn't..

Think about it, when Zeke went down, Dak looked like crap. even guys like Carter didn't play as bad as Dak did in that stretch of games.

When Tyrone Smith went down, Dak looked like crap.. some even doubted if he was ever going to get over the glitch.

When Amari wasn't here, Dak looked like crap.
The Jones boys had to give up a 1st in order to turn things around..

Sure, all players need help around them.

But who would you rather have, Mahomes and a practice squad team, or Dak and a practice squad team?

That is the difference.

Dak isn't talented enough.

I'm sorry, that's just the truth.

Dak doesn't have a cannon like Favre..

He isn't some braniac nerd like Peyton Manning..

He isn't as big as Cam Newton in his prime..

He isn't as fast as Lamar Jackson..

He isn't as accurate as Brees..

What is Dak elite at?

Nothing.

Just as Average as Dalton or Jacoby Brissett..

Why can't you people see it?

Imagine paying Dalton 40M a year..SMH

I’ll bet any amount of money that you were too ignorant to know that Tyron Smith has missed 3 games in each of Dak’s 4 NFL seasons.

So much for that nonsense point.


And WOW, great point about Mahomes!!!

“Who would you rather have!?!? Dak or the very best QB in the NFL!?!?”

YA GOT ME THERE!!!

LOLLLL before Amari showed up, Dak had the NFL’s worst WR corps. Shame on Dallas for not forcing him to play with crap!!!!!


Michael Gallup was a 3rd rounder in his 2nd year... Dak got him over 1,100 yards and 6 TD.

Randall Cobb had his best season since 2015. Wasn’t Aaron Rodgers his QB between 2015-18? Texans just paid a premium for Cobb.

40-24 record with very good stats despite Jason Garrett, a mediocre defense and mediocre special teams.

I know it hurts.

 

[Nav22]

I disagree,, If Dak were to win a Lombardi, I would even buy his Jersey.
Success changes even the biggest doubters opinions one way or another.
I am man enough to admit when Im wrong,,, so Dak… go prove me and all the other doubters wrong.
I have a bigger issue with those that cant handle criticism of those they idolize.

Good for you for being willing to change. Plenty of Cowboys “fans” won’t be willing to.

The clown with Kid Rock as his avatar has said he’d never support Dak as the Cowboys QB “no matter what.”

We all know what that’s code for.

 

[Typhus]

Good for you for being willing to change. Plenty of Cowboys “fans” won’t be willing to.

The clown with Kid Rock as his avatar has said he’d never support Dak as the Cowboys QB “no matter what.”

We all know what that’s code for.

And that is a delusional mind set as a true fan.
They represent every teams fan base, not just ours.
Ive been proven wrong plenty of times in life, and I never get upset about it, just makes you a bit wiser, learn from your mistakes, but never get so bloated
on your own personnel beliefs that you cant ever be wrong!
It works both ways as well, those that idolize to the point of worship are just as blind as the believed fool that is somewhat apprehensive in agreement.

 

[CCBoy]

And that is a delusional mind set as a true fan.
They represent every teams fan base, not just ours.
Ive been proven wrong plenty of times in life, and I never get upset about it, just makes you a bit wiser, learn from your mistakes, but never get so bloated
on your own personnel beliefs that you cant ever be wrong!
It works both ways as well, those that idolize to the point of worship are just as blind as the believed fool that is somewhat apprehensive in agreement.

Thanks, but I already have a wife...

 

[Typhus]

Thanks, but I already have a wife...

And I know she has her hands full...

 

[The Fonz]

people who loves Dak are as extreme in their views as the one who hates him
we all should root for the team ..... the players come and go they are paid mercenaries.

 

[Typhus]

people who loves Dak are as extreme in their views as the one who hates him
we all should root for the team ..... the players come and go they are paid mercenaries.

Nailed it somewhat... is there a partial nail Imoge?
But there are the true heros that go down in history, and you have autographed pictures of them hanging in your man cave.