News: Details Emerge From The Cowboys Current Offer To Prescott

[Diehardblues]

$35 mill a year and over $100 million guaranteed and the dude is saying "nah, not good enough".

Seriously, is there anybody on this board that thinks Dak is worth this type of coin? Being the highest paid player in the history of the entire NFL?

Dude has one playoff win...………..ONE PLAYOFF WIN!!!!!

I'm sorry, but Dak is not worth this much, he just aint. I like the guy, have his jersey I wear on gamedays, but no way in hell am I making Dak the highest paid player in the history of the league. Call me hater all you want, but dude aint worth it.

Actually there are fans who believe we should sign Dak at any cost. And argue the highest paid is only a temporary label as it will change as other QB’s sign new contracts in coming years.

Most of them hold Dak at a much higher level than you or I and some just want him signed regardless the cost as they are numb to contracts and figure it’s just part of the business. Not of course taking into consideration the ramifications of over paying a QB in Cap Mgmt .

 

[jrumann59]

they work for him. They are representing him and fighting for what HE wants.

To a degree yes. But Dak like other athletes are treated as stock commodities for sports agents. The bigger/difficult contracts they can done the better they look in the eyes of the next "star" player to come along.

 

[Montanalo]

This may be counter-intuitive, but I support the concept of a shorter contract for Dak. Independent of the actual terms, it might be good for the organization to think of their QB position as "transitional" forcing them to draft/ develop younger and cheaper options along the way.

 

[Diehardblues]

None of these morons have the slightest idea what is going on in these negotiations. Why people keep thinking they do is beyond me. Dak and his agent aren’t talking. That leaves Stephen just running his mouth and changing the story every two weeks.

Yea, it’s amazing how our Football Idiot and Son continue playing the drama out in the media like it somehow enhances our negotiating position.

 

[superonyx]

When was Romo ever the highest paid player in the league?

Please list what season that was...………...and if you can find such a season, I suspect you cant, I theoretically would have been against that as well.

I kinda expect things like SB rings if a player wants to be the highest paid in the league.

While I agree with some of what you say you lose me when you (or anyone) keeps going to the old tired SuperBowl arguement.
This is the default argument someone makes whenever they don't have an argument. Which is why it's out of place here.
The superbowl argument is an over simplification of this sport.
Should Damien Williams be the highest paid RB in the history of the NFL? He won the superbowl and had over 100 yards.

Its fine to just think Dak is an A- or B+ QB and you think he should be paid as one.

 

[blueblood70]

LOL...…………….…..we go 8-8 and lose to Philly's practice squad and Dak is demanding to be the highest paid player in the league.

He is out of his dam mind.

actually the Jonses are out of their mind, they should have drew a line in the sand at 33/105/5 and just said last offer.. see you on the FT in 2021 or sign it!!

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

Sure give Dak a defense that won't fold in the 4th quarter. That'd help.

Better to give the Defense an offense that can put more than 6-9 points on the board by the end of the 3rd quarter, like the ....Saints, Bills, Jets, Bears, Eagles games just to mention a couple

 

[OmerV]

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This offer, if accurate, wouldn't necessarily make Dak the highest paid player. Russell Wilson has slightly more guaranteed money, so if the Cowboys didn't keep Dak the full 5 years he would not get more than Wilson. Of course, Mahomes will blow both out of the water in a year.

 

[Sydla]

Romo was paid the higest GTD and Aikman was the highest paid period in 93 and 99.

If Fish report is true would be 5yr 175m. If the 106m GTD is true that would be 60% of his total contract GTD, That is ****. Lol Even if you go north of Goff and go high, and say its 115m, its still only 65% and that is still ****. Wentz got 84% of his total contract GTD and Goff got 82%. If they just go under that on Dak with 80% GTD it would be 140m GTD, far off from 106m or even 115.

If they want to reset that market back down to what Wilson got 76%, Rogers 73%, and give Dak under that with 70%, it would still be 123m GTD. Hell, Tannehill just got 77% and that would put Daks at 135m GTD. So unless the GTD is AT LEAST 123m GTD, its not worth Dak to sign a 5 yr deal

If Fish report is true and its a 35m a yr with 106m GTD and its just about they years, then that says Dak is fine with the 106m GTD but wants it on a 4yr deal, which is fair. Its under market(Goff&Wentz) on the % of GTD and under market on the $s. That would put the % at 75% which was the market was before Goff and Wentz deals and still lower % than what Tannehll just signed. Its lower in $s than Wilson, Wentz and Goff. So if hes ok with that, and from this report he is, just wants it on a 4yr deal not a 5, then the Cowboys are holding this up by wanting a 5yr deal that puts it way under market on the GTD.

Stop paying attention the "sexy" total contract number and avg annual. The 106m GTD on 5yr deal is pure ****. If he takes it on a 4yr deal, its still under market in both % of total contract GTD and the overall $s.

You can't look at it like this because what Wentz and Goff signed were extensions tacked on to the back of their remaining two years under their rookie deals.

And you are selectively choosing a calculation that looks favorable for Dak here. How about this?

Wentz signed a 4 year extension with $107MM in guaranteed that was essentially spread over 6 years. That's $17.8MM guaranteed per year. If Dak signed his 5 year, $106MM guaranteed money contract, his avg guarantee per year would be higher than Wentz at $21.2MM.

The other devil in the detail we don't know............ the guaranteed at signing. What's that number? Wilson got $70MM guaranteed at signing, Wentz $66MM, Goff only got $57MM guaranteed at signing.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Well......there goes the #DontpayDak campaign @Frozen700

 

[phildadon86]

they work for him. They are representing him and fighting for what HE wants.

I don’t really think Dak is doing anything right now minus mourning his brother. But that’s just me

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

That is not betting on yourself, that is betting on the people around you. No one EVER has done that. He bet on himself last offseason by not signing then and seems to be betting on himself now (though I would not sign that deal even at 4 years). He is probably going to win his bet on himself. He has maximum leverage right now and the moment he signs a contract that goes away so why a contract and end the bet.

He will never have a better supporting cast around him then he has had in the last 4 years, The Cowboys will be lucky to maintain the talent level they have on the team now if Dak gets that kind of deal

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He will never have a better supporting cast around him then he has had in the last 4 years, The Cowboys will be lucky to maintain the talent level they have on the team now if Dak gets that kind of deal

You guys have got to stop thinking this way. Rams and Eagles have no problem surrounding their guys with talent. The Rams issue isn't Goff's contract. The issue was Brandon Cooks and Todd Gurley's contract vs production. Its not about the quarterback its about the contracts you are handing out and if you aren't getting value for those contracts that's what hurts you.

 

[Diehardblues]

This offer, if accurate, wouldn't necessarily make Dak the highest paid player. Russell Wilson has slightly more guaranteed money, so if the Cowboys didn't keep Dak the full 5 years he would not get more than Wilson. Of course, Mahomes will blow both out of the water in a year.

I keep seeing fans use the Mahomes bar as some kind of relief Daks contract won’t be the highest once that happens as some kind of relief or consolation.

Mahomes would blow it out the water now, next year and beyond. And justifiable so. That gives me no resolve.

 

[jazzcat22]

No one is giving up two #1s

This is what gets me, people say not worth it, but yet say trade for 2 #1's. Well why not keep him if he is worth that, right?

If some other team thinks he is worth that much to trade plus give him the contract. Then people would say Jerry is stupid for trading a franchise QB because team X has a real GM. However, Jerry signs him for the same deal, then Jerry is an idiot. If never fails.
Then some that say, Team X is dumb, Jerry is smart, but what if that team was NE. Some say just take him for a bag of chips.

And for the record if they could get 2 #1's, I am for that, heck if he holds out, I would take just 1 #1. If they sign him to that deal offered, I would not complain. I prefer he plays on the tag and proves himself with the new staff and schemes.

 

[Diehardblues]

You guys have got to stop thinking this way. Rams and Eagles have no problem surrounding their guys with talent. The Rams issue isn't Goff's contract. The issue was Brandon Cooks and Todd Gurley's contract vs production. Its not about the quarterback its about the contracts you are handing out and if you aren't getting value for those contracts that's what hurts you.

But the Rams and Eagles don’t feel they need to prop their franchise QB up with top paid RB, WR and OL.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

You guys have got to stop thinking this way. Rams and Eagles have no problem surrounding their guys with talent. The Rams issue isn't Goff's contract. The issue was Brandon Cooks and Todd Gurley's contract vs production. Its not about the quarterback its about the contracts you are handing out and if you aren't getting value for those contracts that's what hurts you.

And you think based on Dak's 4 year totals that his production warrants 35M+ and 105M= in guarantees? which i guess he thinks may not be enough? cause if he does ever sign for 5 years he is going to want more money in order to give the Cowboys the 5th year on a deal. C'mon to smart for that. He doesn't stand a chance of living up to that kind of deal

 

[cowboyed]

Yea, it’s amazing how our Football Idiot and Son continue playing the drama out in the media like it somehow enhances our negotiating position.

I don't consider Jerry or Stephen football idiots. They both were and or are on the NFL football competition committee and the NFL reached out to Jerry in the past in helping out with the CBA. Jerry is in Pro Football Hall of Fame inducted in 2017. Jerry played collegiate football and co-captained on a national championship team. Stephen grew up around football all his life and been with the team for 28 years as chief operating officer, executive vice president of player personnel.

I believe overall family business interests, team capability overconfidence and a lack of objectivity have led to inconsistency and setbacks over the past 2 decades. I don't think they are football idiots hiring Mike McCarthy and enabling him to hire or retain any individual on the coaching staff. Over the past half dozen years this ownership and management has improved in drafting culminating this year with an outstanding draft.

That stated I would like to see a couple of NFL experienced personnel that are more talented, non-family, in both general manager and executive management positions.

 

[MikeB80]

I don’t really think Dak is doing anything right now minus mourning his brother. But that’s just me

He hired them to take care of them for him, that is what they do. What your talking about has nothing to do with contract negotiations.

 

[Diehardblues]

He will never have a better supporting cast around him then he has had in the last 4 years, The Cowboys will be lucky to maintain the talent level they have on the team now if Dak gets that kind of deal

It’s going to be difficult to build a better defense unless we do it thru the draft. Our key offensive talent though is under contract for next 4 years.

Basically Dak and our offensive talent and Cap heavy group will need to be our strength carrying us. Further than they did last year as the #1 offense.