BTB: Cowboys thoughts: New reports make it clear how necessary the coaching changes were

[Idgit]

I DISAGREE.

We lost 4 games where the opponent scored less than 15 points. That shows a lack of offense. the other 4 games we scored 22+ points and showed a lack of defense.

You can’t just look at the point total. You look at the defenses we were playing and you look at the conditions we were playing in. You look at things like injuries to throwing shoulders as well.

 

[Idgit]

Do you think Garrett had a good year coaching in 2019 or no?

Not what this thread or what my post was about, so it’s not relevant.

 

[Idgit]

I bet Garret has a storage locker full of your fan mail that dates back to the nineties.

And I bet you’re still unable to separate actual performance-based criticism from reflexive knee-jerk fan overreactions.

 

[charron]

Oh 100 percent we were. Until Garrett decided to go into a shell every time we had a tough game or road game. The first 3 games we were motioning using misdirected runs and then boom. Jason couldn’t handle Moore getting credit and the Saints game happened.

I think thats just Moore's inexperience calling plays showing up. There are a few games he called poorly.

 

[ondaedg]

If you say so. The article said it is far more effective to pass the ball and he passed the ball more in 2019 than the other 3 years yet ended 8-8. I'm just pointing out that 1 phrase needs more context as just passing more even a year where dak put up big numbers didn't lead to wins. Zekes rushing tittles would mean nothing had he not helped us make the playoffs.

We had 4 takeaways in 8 losses. Four.. Meanwhile, playoff teams averaged almost 2 takeaways per win.

Blaming our losses on an increased pass rate has no basis in fact.

 

[Stash]

I remember all those calls for Garrett to be fired and Richard to be promoted to head coach, because he is yeller/screamer on the sideline.

I'll cop to some form of that. For me a combination of an impressive resume, improvement of the secondary in year one, and just wanting it to be anyone but Garrett. Wrong on that one.

I think the part that's missing in all these talks and it will eventually come out, is the dysfunctional group that they were. offense on different pages, it was obvious Garrett didn't trust moore and put a nozzle on him and tried to control him, and Marinelli and Richard were on different pages. this was a total mess in 2019. you could see the players frustration mounting as the year went.

Yeah, it became more and more apparent. And I'm on record as saying that the upcoming results will be apparent and stark. And undeniable. I think that barring significant injury, this team will finish with double digit wins for sure, leaving no doubt that the former coach and staff were the true problem in Dallas.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Not what this thread or what my post was about, so it’s not relevant.

Just a question. Do I have to start a thread about it to ask you a question? Are you that scared to answer?

 

[Idgit]

Just a question. Do I have to start a thread about it to ask you a question? Are you that scared to answer?

No, just training you to stay on topic, rather than asking the same exact question I’ve already answered many times before.

DM me if I need to show you how to site search if you’re really interested.

 

[Jake]

"passing the ball is by far more effective than handing it off in almost all situations" earned us an 8-8 finish in 2019 but did make Dak's stats look great.

Only one RB had more carries than Zeke. Only 7 teams had more rushing attempts than the Cowboys.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled narrative.

 

[Corso]

I think thats just Moore's inexperience calling plays showing up. There are a few games he called poorly.

Guaranteed he had a short leash from his boss who was trying to inefficiently coach for his job to continue.

 

[Jake]

If you say so. The article said it is far more effective to pass the ball and he passed the ball more in 2019 than the other 3 years yet ended 8-8.

Only one RB had more carries than Zeke. Only 7 teams had more rushing attempts than the Cowboys. This notion that the Cowboys were trying to imitate Air Coryell is simply not true.

The only games the Cowboy won were when they scored 30+ points. That suggests weaknesses elsewhere.

 

[cern]

The two major mistakes that led to the cowboys being a lousy team the last 10 years are Garrett for his absolutely poor coaching and Jerry for protecting and coddling the incompetent, bumbling hc. With Garrett and finally witten gone, the team now has stephen's stamp on it.

 

[Corso]

Only one RB had more carries than Zeke. Only 7 teams had more rushing attempts than the Cowboys.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled narrative.

In the words of Emeril Legasse:
BAM!

 

[CowboyRoy]

No, just training you to stay on topic, rather than asking the same exact question I’ve already answered many times before.

DM me if I need to show you how to site search if you’re really interested.

Nope, just interested in your honest answer. But if your too scared to answer no big deal.

Have I trained you to understand quality coaching yet? You are getting some good lessons from the early returns on MM. I hope you are taking notes. This way you wont make the same embarrassing mistakes you made with Garrett.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Some recent interviews put Kris Richard in the crosshairs. But it not only doesn’t let Jason Garrett off the hook, it further implicates him.

By Tom Ryle@TomRyleBTB May 10, 2020, 10:00am CDT

It’s time to shift our focus back to the coaches of the Dallas Cowboys. With the inability to conduct any actual practices or other activities, we can make only guesses about the players. The talent acquisition process clearly is done for a good while with the signing of the UDFAs, signing of Andy Dalton, signing of Cam Erving. In any case, the dearth of new information as the team is limited to virtual meetings with their players leaves us having to look at some other things for the moment. With all the excitement and fine dissection of the draft having dominated things lately, it feels like a good time to talk some more about the significant coaching changes. Frankly, a couple of things that came out recently were eye-opening. Both relate to secondary coach Kris Richard, but they also seem to fit right in with one of Jason Garrett’s biggest issues.

That is what you might want to call a red flag. I know that Richard thinks about more football things in a day than I have learned in a decade and stuff, but this seems to violate a pretty basic principle: Don’t let the other team know what you are doing. Make them guess, in the hopes they guess wrong and you blow up their play.

Of course, Iloka has stated before that he did not believe he was given a fair chance to earn a roster spot in that camp. Maybe he had an ax to grind.

But this was the second time something had come out about Richard demanding rigid and therefore predictable things from his defensive backs. In an edition of Jane Slater and Bobby Belt’s podcast a bit before the Iloka comments came out, they were interviewing an independent DB coach who had worked with some of Dallas’ secondary, including Chidobe Awuzie and Byron Jones.

He related that he wanted to coach them in a specific technique at the snap, but was told that they were only allowed to use one technique by Richard. Belt explained the technique was called a kick-step, and of course, if it was the only technique allowed, the receivers had a much better idea of how to work free.

Richard was supposed to bring some fresh ideas and improved performance to the Dallas defense. It turns out he was inflexible and unimaginative. This may not explain all the problems the defense had last season, but it is a very good start.


Maybe this concept was much more workable when Richard was coaching with the Seattle Seahawks and had a secondary so talented and feared that it earned the “Legion of Boom” nickname. Of course, it raises the question of whether any coach could have had similar success with that stable of DBs. It could also go a long way toward explaining why Richard became available for the Cowboys to hire in the first place as his stars began to depart.

Unarguably an approach of lining up without deception or variation and beating their guys with yours works a lot better when your guys are better than just about anyone they come up against. It is just as inarguable that it is very difficult to assemble that kind of roster, and a rare situation in the NFL. So why did the Cowboys elect to go with a coach with that philosophy?


Well, maybe that idea of just beating the other team man to man sounds familiar to you. All the evidence points to that being the basic offensive philosophy of Jason Garrett.

Look at how he built the team. First, he started a trend of getting top-notch offensive linemen, which brought them the All-Pro trio of Tyron Smith, Zack Martin, and recently retired Travis Frederick. They also picked up La’el Collins, who was projected as a first-round pick before the bizarre incident that led to him not being drafted at all since he was not cleared of any involvement until after the draft ended. And Connor Williams and Connor McGovern were also investments of premium picks to further bolster the line.

Then came the use of a fourth overall pick for Ezekiel Elliott. That may be even more telling, because Garrett didn’t hide that he wanted to run the offense through Elliott. It became even more clear once Tony Romo was supplanted by Elliott’s fellow rookie, Dak Prescott. Despite the growing body of data and analysis that passing the ball is by far more effective than handing it off in almost all situations, including first and most second downs, the Cowboys remained fully committed to establishing the run. Far too often, they attempted to do that with tight formations and multiple tight ends. For years, the most effective package for Dallas to pass or run has been 11 personnel, when the defense could not load up the box. But again and again, the Cowboys would show run and hand it off, with frequently disappointing results.

Just like showing the same thing over and over to the opposing offense and getting burned.

I have observed before that Garrett put a lot of energy and resources into building a team to win - in 1995. The game has changed dramatically since the glory days when Emmitt Smith was a fearsome weapon that helped carry the team to three Lombardi trophies. Garrett had a lot of good qualities, but changing with the times apparently was not one of them.

At the end of his own tenure in Dallas, Scott Linehan was a constant scapegoat for the woes of the offense. He was derided for his predictability and the staleness of his offense, despite the obvious strengths Prescott brought to the game. Promoting Kellen Moore was hoped to be a way to overcome all that. But last season, despite a hot start, the offense slowly reverted to the old ways. Moore still could dial up some great plays. Too often, though, the ball went to Elliott in a quest to get to a manageable third down. We know how that turned out. It is worth noting that Linehan’s current job is in the college ranks, where the national champion LSU Tigers just hired him - to be the passing game coordinator.

We still have to see how things work out under new head coach Mike McCarthy and the staff he brought in, especially Mike Nolan and his defensive assistants. But McCarthy famously took that year off to study and improve himself, which means that he had more time to study the Cowboys and what they did both right and wrong than any other candidate for the HC job. If he paid attention and follows through, we will see a very different approach to both the offense and the defense, one that keeps the other team guessing and off balance. The draft certainly brought in some exciting young talent that may help with the man-to-man matchups as well. This could be a bit of the best of both worlds in Dallas.

That would be a very good thing indeed.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...clear-how-necessary-the-coaching-changes-were

Shorter: "We do what we do" and "We'll beat them by greater execution on simpler schemes" is the coaching malpractice the Cowboys have lived with for a decade.

Ding Dong the Red Menace is Gone!

 

[cern]

Nope, just interested in your honest answer. But if your too scared to answer no big deal.

Have I trained you to understand quality coaching yet? You are getting some good lessons from the early returns on MM. I hope you are taking notes. This way you wont make the same embarrassing mistakes you made with Garrett.

Even jerry had to finally swallow his pride and allow the right thing be done in culling garrett from the team. The fact it took 10 years just shows why pride in considered one of the 7 deadly sins.

 

[Clove]

As record breakingly good as the team was at moving the ball, it was mystifyingly poor at scoring when they got down there or making plays late in games in some of those losses.

The offense definitely has to shoulder some of the blame in certain games.

Too much is done at the LOS imo. It causes false starts. And false starts contribute to stalled drives. Also, they never audible into max-protection, leaving the QB in danger, and causing holding penalties, and holding calls help stall drives.

Simplify the cadence, make audibles that help the offensive linemen, and make route combinations that get the ball out quickly.

 

[Idgit]

Nope, just interested in your honest answer. But if your too scared to answer no big deal.

Have I trained you to understand quality coaching yet? You are getting some good lessons from the early returns on MM. I hope you are taking notes. This way you wont make the same embarrassing mistakes you made with Garrett.

Cool. Try to stay on topic, then.
If you’re really interested, like I said, try the search.

 

[Dre11]

It worked in the 90s tho..

it worked in 2018 during a 8 game winning streak, it worked, it worked in 2009, 2014,2016.

the 49ers took that approach to the Superbowl.

 

[Dre11]

Do you think Garrett had a good year coaching in 2019 or no?

did he have one on 2018?