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Are you sure they weren't already factored into the numbers I gave?
Not sure, where did you get the numbers? If its a current total of what he made, then they would have been factored in. If the base pay for his draft slot, they wouldn't have
 

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Ohhh you don't like me here well too bad!
By the way, even if I left what would you do with the rest of the Dak-Doubters?
Your dream is to ban all of us and change the name of the site to the DAKZONE.......GL with that!:omg:

Nah, I didn't expect that you'd hold the same standards of yourself that you would for others.

There's a name for that.

And it fits right in with your character.
 

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none of the three aforementioned qb's exactly set the world on fire last year, regardless of salary. but I think dak finished with the worst record at 8-8. as for comparisons to entertainers, would the terminator series have been the same without Arnold? or dirty harry without eastwood?
 

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none of the three aforementioned qb's exactly set the world on fire last year, regardless of salary. but I think dak finished with the worst record at 8-8. as for comparisons to entertainers, would the terminator series have been the same without Arnold? or dirty harry without eastwood?

How about if you flip their roles? :laugh:
 

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He is gonna push the QB market up a little. When better franchise QB get paid like mahomes he is going to destroy it. Sign Dak before this happens. That alone will save us money.

Which is one of the reasons why Dak wants the shorter contract, so he'll be in renewal contracts soon after Mahomes resets the market.

Its all about the years.
 

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none of the three aforementioned qb's exactly set the world on fire last year, regardless of salary. but I think dak finished with the worst record at 8-8.

How do their career records compare?

as for comparisons to entertainers, would the terminator series have been the same without Arnold? or dirty harry without eastwood?

How would you ever know?

The fact is that it's a screw-up world when people are making that kind of money to 'entertain'. Far more important jobs make far less.
 

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Ohhh you don't like me here well too bad!
By the way, even if I left what would you do with the rest of the Dak-Doubters?
Your dream is to ban all of us and change the name of the site to the DAKZONE.......GL with that!:omg:
Dallas as an organization wants Dak around for multiple years. So he will sign a deal sooner or later. Now where will you be after your hopes and dreams of a non-Dak lead football team dissipate? Because you brought it up about someone disappearing when things don't go their way. So we just want to know if your mindset applies to you?
 

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I'm trying to give my best 'Public Service Message' in an effort to assist in the division regarding our starting quarterback. I understand that many are upset in hearing the dollars being talked about in regard to his next contract. And while I understand it, I hope that people also understand that all entertainers are grossly overpaid! If we want to 'fix' that, it's far bigger than one Dak Prescott.

But what I did was a quick crunching of some numbers between Dak and his closest contemporaries, Jared Goff, and Carson Wentz. Rather than focusing on Dak asking for 'Russell Wilson money', let's take a look at what he would cost the Cowboys vs what his contemporaries are costing their teams. There's not a fairer comparison out there.

So here are my quick numbers, cap guru's feel free to correct me if and where I'm wrong:

Jared Goff rookie contract – 2016-2019 - $49,677,990

Extension – 4 years - $134 million

Total = 8 years - $183,677,990


Carson Wentz rookie contract – 2016 – 2019 - $39,676,339

Extension – 4 years - $128 million

Total = 8 years -$167,676,339


Dak Prescott rookie contract – 2016-2019 - $4,903,172

Extension – 4 years - $140 million

Total = 8 years – $144,903.172

Reported $37 million a year figure - $148 million

Adjusted Maximum Total = 8 years – $152,903.172

So what we have are two final projections for Prescott, at the current 'Russel Wilson contract' numbers, or the highest end numbers at $37 million a year reported on that $5 year deal (kept to a 4-year comparison).

So, even if the team paid Prescott at the highest reported annual level, they would still ultimately have the better, more accomplished, more productive, healthier player at a huge discount.

$31 million cheaper than Jared Goff.

$15 million cheaper than Carson Wentz.

This certainly helps me to feel better about it, and I hope it does for some of you as well.

That's very interesting.
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He is gonna push the QB market up a little. When better franchise QB get paid like mahomes he is going to destroy it. Sign Dak before this happens. That alone will save us money.

Deshaun Watson and the Texans are the ones we have to worry about.

First, look at what they did with Hopkins, and then trading for Cooks and what they paid Randall Cobb.

Then take a look at what they did to the offensive tackle market when they paid Tunsil.

They will undoubtedly screw up the quarterback market.
 

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Not sure how much it amounted to, but Prescott got some raises due to over performing expectations. All day 3 and UDFA's get them if they perform at a high level

First off Prescott hasn't gotten any raise for any reason yet. What money he has he made from the rookie contract he signed and that amount didn't change based on that he was a 4th round pick and out played that. The current negotiations Prescott's draft status isn't part of it. It's being based on actual play and what the Cowboys think his upside will be during the length of the contract. About the only time a player's draft status comes into play on a contract is if he's like a 1st round pick and under preforms and then they decline to exercize the 5th year option. Other than that, contracts are based off of play and upside. Romo is a prime example. The Cowboys didn't say because you were an UDFA wering going to pay you on par with other QB's. They paid him based on his actual play leading up to that new contract.
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We are the Dallas Cowboys. We do not get the better end of the players. The players get the better end of us. It is our mission statement.
 

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You are comparing (2) 1st round draft pick QB's earnings to a 4th round draft pick QB earnings. Of course 1st round draft picks will make more career money after their rookie contracts so not sure how this makes much sense. Sorry but Goff led his team to a Super Bowl appearance and Wentz was leading his team to a Super Bowl until he got hurt. Dak by way of comparison has led Dallas to 1 playoff win.

What ANY player makes after their rookie contract is based on their actual play not draft status. The only time their draft status may come into the thinking of contracts after their rookie contract is if they're like a 1st round pick and under preforms and the team decides to not exercise the 5th year option.
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I'm trying to give my best 'Public Service Message' in an effort to assist in the division regarding our starting quarterback. I understand that many are upset in hearing the dollars being talked about in regard to his next contract. And while I understand it, I hope that people also understand that all entertainers are grossly overpaid! If we want to 'fix' that, it's far bigger than one Dak Prescott.

But what I did was a quick crunching of some numbers between Dak and his closest contemporaries, Jared Goff, and Carson Wentz. Rather than focusing on Dak asking for 'Russell Wilson money', let's take a look at what he would cost the Cowboys vs what his contemporaries are costing their teams. There's not a fairer comparison out there.

So here are my quick numbers, cap guru's feel free to correct me if and where I'm wrong:

Jared Goff rookie contract – 2016-2019 - $49,677,990

Extension – 4 years - $134 million

Total = 8 years - $183,677,990

The problem is our Front Office let it get to this point. I can't blame Dak, all of us would want the most money possible..
Jerry should have never let Dak get to the last year..




Carson Wentz rookie contract – 2016 – 2019 - $39,676,339

Extension – 4 years - $128 million

Total = 8 years -$167,676,339


Dak Prescott rookie contract – 2016-2019 - $4,903,172

Extension – 4 years - $140 million

Total = 8 years – $144,903.172

Reported $37 million a year figure - $148 million

Adjusted Maximum Total = 8 years – $152,903.172

So what we have are two final projections for Prescott, at the current 'Russel Wilson contract' numbers, or the highest end numbers at $37 million a year reported on that $5 year deal (kept to a 4-year comparison).

So, even if the team paid Prescott at the highest reported annual level, they would still ultimately have the better, more accomplished, more productive, healthier player at a huge discount.

$31 million cheaper than Jared Goff.

$15 million cheaper than Carson Wentz.

This certainly helps me to feel better about it, and I hope it does for some of you as well.
 

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Goff and Wentz were 1st round picks Dak was a 4th round pick. o_O
 

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The Dallas Cowboys will win a SB with Dak, and there is nothing they can do about that, except go back into the woodwork for years. :D

Honestly who cares what "they" think anyway right? It really doesn't matter one bit. It's very much like politics isn't it? It's just an argument no one can ever win.

Stash gave us a realistic breakdown, but honestly he really shouldn't of had to do that. The Cowboys were extremely fortunate to have Dak play for peanuts for as long as he did now it's time to pay him market value. There are no other sure things out there just waiting to be plucked. Have we all forgotten about Quincy Carter, Drew Henson ETC? We're very fortunate to have lucked into Dak Prescott, and there really isn't a harder worker or a better man out there.
 

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I'm trying to give my best 'Public Service Message' in an effort to assist in the division regarding our starting quarterback. I understand that many are upset in hearing the dollars being talked about in regard to his next contract. And while I understand it, I hope that people also understand that all entertainers are grossly overpaid! If we want to 'fix' that, it's far bigger than one Dak Prescott.

But what I did was a quick crunching of some numbers between Dak and his closest contemporaries, Jared Goff, and Carson Wentz. Rather than focusing on Dak asking for 'Russell Wilson money', let's take a look at what he would cost the Cowboys vs what his contemporaries are costing their teams. There's not a fairer comparison out there.

So here are my quick numbers, cap guru's feel free to correct me if and where I'm wrong:

Jared Goff rookie contract – 2016-2019 - $49,677,990

Extension – 4 years - $134 million

Total = 8 years - $183,677,990


Carson Wentz rookie contract – 2016 – 2019 - $39,676,339

Extension – 4 years - $128 million

Total = 8 years -$167,676,339


Dak Prescott rookie contract – 2016-2019 - $4,903,172

Extension – 4 years - $140 million

Total = 8 years – $144,903.172

Reported $37 million a year figure - $148 million

Adjusted Maximum Total = 8 years – $152,903.172

So what we have are two final projections for Prescott, at the current 'Russel Wilson contract' numbers, or the highest end numbers at $37 million a year reported on that $5 year deal (kept to a 4-year comparison).

So, even if the team paid Prescott at the highest reported annual level, they would still ultimately have the better, more accomplished, more productive, healthier player at a huge discount.

$31 million cheaper than Jared Goff.

$15 million cheaper than Carson Wentz.

This certainly helps me to feel better about it, and I hope it does for some of you as well.
Too bad Garrett wasted the four years of his rookie contract.
 

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I'm trying to give my best 'Public Service Message' in an effort to assist in the division regarding our starting quarterback. I understand that many are upset in hearing the dollars being talked about in regard to his next contract. And while I understand it, I hope that people also understand that all entertainers are grossly overpaid! If we want to 'fix' that, it's far bigger than one Dak Prescott.

But what I did was a quick crunching of some numbers between Dak and his closest contemporaries, Jared Goff, and Carson Wentz. Rather than focusing on Dak asking for 'Russell Wilson money', let's take a look at what he would cost the Cowboys vs what his contemporaries are costing their teams. There's not a fairer comparison out there.

So here are my quick numbers, cap guru's feel free to correct me if and where I'm wrong:

Jared Goff rookie contract – 2016-2019 - $49,677,990

Extension – 4 years - $134 million

Total = 8 years - $183,677,990


Carson Wentz rookie contract – 2016 – 2019 - $39,676,339

Extension – 4 years - $128 million

Total = 8 years -$167,676,339


Dak Prescott rookie contract – 2016-2019 - $4,903,172

Extension – 4 years - $140 million

Total = 8 years – $144,903.172

Reported $37 million a year figure - $148 million

Adjusted Maximum Total = 8 years – $152,903.172

So what we have are two final projections for Prescott, at the current 'Russel Wilson contract' numbers, or the highest end numbers at $37 million a year reported on that $5 year deal (kept to a 4-year comparison).

So, even if the team paid Prescott at the highest reported annual level, they would still ultimately have the better, more accomplished, more productive, healthier player at a huge discount.

$31 million cheaper than Jared Goff.

$15 million cheaper than Carson Wentz.

This certainly helps me to feel better about it, and I hope it does for some of you as well.
Great post!!

These contracts will be peanuts when owners start cashing the new broadcasting $$ checks
 
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