Michael Irvin says Cowboys owe Dak 'back pay'

[shabazz]

As no fluffer of Dakota, he clearly outplayed his contract and if he was signed, I could understand a bit of compensation for past services......but his contract demands are like compensating 2 players.

No, on paying him restitution

 

[erod]

I understand what you are saying, but this is an unfair take as rookie contracts are slotted. He had no choice but really to agree or not play in the NFL which is kind of ridiculous alternative.

You mean like every new hire out of college in America?

Kids don't get hired as CFOs for major corporations straight out of business school.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Most starting rookie QBs dont come to a team with a loaded offensive line and that many weapons....point being Dallas doesnt owe him (or anyone) any back pay. Your draft selection and how you got there is on you (the team selecting you had nothing to do with your college career/success)..not to mention they made him a household name by his first regular season game of his rookie year. Youre welcome, Dak.

If it was that loaded they wouldn't have went 4-12 the year before. He came to a team that was 4-12 the previous year and the only reasons they won the games it did was because Romo won 3 of them and missed most of the season.

 

[Sydla]

They owe him no such thing.

Geezus, the stupid hot takes from former players is too much.

 

[Redline360]

Cowboys don't own Dak **** in back pay. That's his draft postion to bad. Cowboys have made more then a generous offer he's the one being difficult.

 

[dogunwo]

You mean like every new hire out of college in America?

Kids don't get hired as CFOs for major corporations straight out of business school.

No, but they have options of other companies to work for in the field where there are other choices of salary and benefits. There is no other legitimate option to the NFL. Nice try on possibly the stupidest analogy ever that completely missed point.

 

[blueblood70]

stay in your lane MI! dak was forth rounder mostly his fault college hijinks DUI before the draft etc etc.. since then hes had an up and down career and at least he doesnt have te dreaded 5th year option that first rounders get put on him.. hes owed whatever the owner decides hew owed..

 

[aikemirv]

No, but they have options of other companies to work for in the field where there are other choices of salary and benefits. There is no other legitimate option to the NFL. Nice try on possibly the stupidest analogy ever that completely missed point.

CFL- He has other options too - just not near as good!

 

[erod]

No, but they have options of other companies to work for in the field where there are other choices of salary and benefits. There is no other legitimate option to the NFL. Nice try on possibly the stupidest analogy ever that completely missed point.

They do, and none of them are paying what NFL players make out of college. Not even 4th-round picks.

Nobody is forcing Dak to play in the NFL. He can apply for the CFL, the NBA, or Real Madrid. Just like you and I can. Doesn't mean we'll get hired.

Getting drafted is an invitation and a privilege. It is not a right.

 

[DandyDon52]

You sound crazy. Why didn’t the Cowboys make Weeden, Cassel or Kellen Moore famous?

Well it is complicated, so I doubt you would understand it.
But you do make a valid point so......... None of the guys you mention had the same team dak walked into.
They also were older and not as good as dak. None of them could run with the ball. Kellen just didnt have the size , arm or legs for the game.
They were all before elliot and the best years of the OL.

Dak is good, not as good as some think, but he is better than those guys.
Dak had elliot in his rookie year, the only real good year for elliot, and that year the OL was really good.
They went 13-3.
After that elliot suspended , and not as good, and Dak has dropped to a 9-7 season avg for the last 3 years.

He was center stage with the cowboys and had the great 1st year due to elliot and OL, and that made him famous,
and since then he and the team have been avg .

Had he been drafted by another team, he might not have even got a chance to start in 16, and maybe just wound up being a bkup for 4 years.
Or maybe he gets a shot at starting, but on a team not as good, and then he has a couple 9-7 seasons.

So then he would not be some hotshot wanting 35-40 mil right now.

 

[dogunwo]

They do, and none of them are paying what NFL players make out of college. Not even 4th-round picks.

Nobody is forcing Dak to play in the NFL. He can apply for the CFL, the NBA, or Real Madrid. Just like you and I can. Doesn't mean we'll get hired.

Getting drafted is an invitation and a privilege. It is not a right.

Thanks. You made my point for me, although your to clueless to realize it.

 

[Qcard]

I honestly don't see this. The popularity of the NFL, IMO, isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Attendance might be down in the short term but Football is king.

JMO

Yes is it King until tea looks good in the River....

The blueprint for spin off is there... trust me bigger conversations than playing football is prevalent...

At no other time have the players been rich enough and influential enough to cripple the NFL

 

[Bullflop]

Michael Irvin is smart enough to know granting a player "back pay" isn't done in the NFL. I'm surprised he said as much.

 

[Qcard]

Michael Irvin is smart enough to know that offering a player "back pay" isn't an option in the NFL. I'm puzzled he said as much.

The NFL as you knew it doesn't exist anymore....

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Well it is complicated, so I doubt you would understand it.
But you do make a valid point so......... None of the guys you mention had the same team dak walked into.
They also were older and not as good as dak. None of them could run with the ball. Kellen just didnt have the size , arm or legs for the game.
They were all before elliot and the best years of the OL.

Dak is good, not as good as some think, but he is better than those guys.
Dak had elliot in his rookie year, the only real good year for elliot, and that year the OL was really good.
They went 13-3.
After that elliot suspended , and not as good, and Dak has dropped to a 9-7 season avg for the last 3 years.

He was center stage with the cowboys and had the great 1st year due to elliot and OL, and that made him famous,
and since then he and the team have been avg .

Had he been drafted by another team, he might not have even got a chance to start in 16, and maybe just wound up being a bkup for 4 years.
Or maybe he gets a shot at starting, but on a team not as good, and then he has a couple 9-7 seasons.

So then he would not be some hotshot wanting 35-40 mil right now.

It’s complicated so you don’t think I’d understand? You sure about that? Basically I asked you the question because you guys sit here and tell us how bad Dak is and how inherited such a great team when that great team was 4-12 prior to him getting here. And has underachieved for 13 years. But they are so talented lol.....

 

[FVSTONE]

Hmmmm, why is Michael coming out NOW with his statement?????? Dak went thru what every new/drafted NFL player has to go thru. It's called a ROOKIE CONTRACT! He was a 4th rd pick who to this point has in some cases played like a 2nd rd pick. This isn't youth football where everyone get's a trophy/snackbar ticket, this is the NFL where if you play great you get paid!!!!!!!!!!!! Unfortunately, for Dak he's been so up and down in his career that he hasn't earned the right for BACK pay nor has he earned the right to be at the top of the food chain either. Personally, I think Dak is a middle of the pack QB who can be a top tier QB with more hard work and less greediness...

 

[Bullflop]

The NFL as you knew it doesn't exist anymore....

I've known it all along. Back pay wasn't and still isn't being granted.

Claiming otherwise is nothing but silly. Contracts are contracts.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yes is it King until tea looks good in the River....

The blueprint for spin off is there... trust me bigger conversations than playing football is prevalent...

At no other time have the players been rich enough and influential enough to cripple the NFL

One has nothing, at all, to do with the other. This isn't a matter of trust and you shouldn't be trying to skirt the issue with a subject you know we can't discuss here. Wrong forum, bad idea.

In terms of the players having enough money, well, the money dries up when the games dry up so I don't see it but if you do, that's fine.

 

[DandyDon52]

It’s complicated so you don’t think I’d understand? You sure about that? Basically I asked you the question because you guys sit here and tell us how bad Dak is and how inherited such a great team when that great team was 4-12 prior to him getting here. And has underachieved for 13 years. But they are so talented lol.....

So your saying you dont understand ??
and i said nothing about dak being bad, he just isnt great or good enough to warrant 35 mil or more.
I say he is just a little above avg. just like his 9-7 avg the last 3 years.

And the 4-12 year ?? surely you understand that lol ?? No Romo

And dak had one of the best teams of 2016 to work with, it was a rookies dream team.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

So your saying you dont understand ??
and i said nothing about dak being bad, he just isnt great or good enough to warrant 35 mil or more.
I say he is just a little above avg. just like his 9-7 avg the last 3 years.

And the 4-12 year ?? surely you understand that lol ?? No Romo

And dak had one of the best teams of 2016 to work with, it was a rookies dream team.

I did not say I didn't understand your feeble point. I asked you a question which is why I ended my sentence with a question mark......

So in order to prove your point that he's "average" you don't use any stats. You use his teams record to determine he's "above average". That makes absolutely no sense at all. None. So Zeke Is average because of this teams average record lol......

Its so mind boggling to me how you guys pick and choose when to use the "this teams talented" card. You will sit here and say Garrett sucks. Then you will sit here and tell us how great his team was....mind you you just 1-2 years after that 2016 Dez Bryant was out of the league before hitting 30, Terrence Williams was out of the league, Cole Beasley was not re-signed and took his services to the Bills and Jason Witten retired.

But you guys will sit here and try to convince us that this was a rookie's dream? His weapons are OUT OF THE LEAGUE lol. Not to mention now his starting center is retired granted that's less about talent and more about unfortunate circumstance.

And bringing up Romo is irrelevant. Because Romo was the quarterback so he wasn't here in 2016 either.

I was being generous saying 4-12. They were actually 1-11 in 2015 if you take away the games Romo played in.