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So the OP is “Glass Half Full” and you’re “Glass Half Empty”!
Nah. Want the realist approach
So the OP is “Glass Half Full” and you’re “Glass Half Empty”!
Tyron's back lasted the season looking healthy, Collins is borderline pro bowl, Martin should only be better starting healthy, and Williams should certainly be better. He's a young guy who needed to bulk up playing a power position.
Biadasz and McGovern are two high quality prospects for C, and we've got Leary as a fallback. We probably start the season better than last year, but that's largely on Frederick starting so slowly.
I like the interior depth, but not Erving over Fleming.
C was going to be fun to watch. Voldemort probably puts McGovern out of the running. Biadasz has at least been playing C for years, and Looney has been our backup.
Is one sack and one penalty bad?
BOO!!! HISS!!!I honestly doubt we have a season
Frederick was still a good player last year, just not the dominant player he once was. Looney filled in well the year before, so at worst we have a solid option in place but not as good as Frederick. What I will say is depth and competition for starting center and guard is shaping up to be a good battle between McGovern, Williams, Biadasz, and Looney. Whoever doesn't win wouldn't seem like a huge dropoff in talent if called on. Erving and Flemming feels more like a wash. Flemming may be a better starting LT based on Erving's track record there, while Erving has more position flexibility.
Depth looks better, which will be important with covid. Are we actually better among our starters? Maybe depends on the availability and development of the young guys.
When we look at the changes along the OL this season, the majority believe the unit will be not as good, mainly due to the loss of Travis Frederick.
Frederick was an all-pro center when he was healthy, but he was a shell of himself from the physical standpoint after his illness. He decided to call it a career, when he knew he could no longer play up to his high standards. The team will certainly feel his loss in leadership and his high IQ making all the pre-snap protection calls. Keep in mind we aren't replacing the all pro Travis, but rather the last year's version of him.
You can look up all the early 2020 mocks drafts and you will find Tyler Biadasz projected as a 1st round pick. Many media scouts projected him as a sure fire day 2 selection this year. His play did dip somewhat after hip surgery, but many believe he will be able to return close to 100%. Make no mistake, Biadasz is a high level prospect, no matter where he was drafted.
Connor McGovern received a 2nd rd grade from the Cowboy Front Office, in which they decided to take him when still available in rd 3. They said it was a blinking light pick, as he was atop of their draft board. Unfortunately, McGovern got hurt in the off-season workouts, in which he had to have a red shirt type of season. He has starting experience at both Guard and the Center positions. McGovern is considered a high level future starter prospect. The two Connor's are both talented players in which the loser becomes a quality,gameday, active reserve player.
Cameron Erving is an former 1st rd selection who has the versatility to backup all 5 positions and easily can spot start if needed. He might be a small upgrade over Fleming as the team's swing tackle, but he offers veteran insurance across the entire line.
Zach Martin was playing hurt all season long. Still was playing at a high level, but probably not on an all-pro level that he has in the past. Probably his worst season as a Cowboy, which is saying a lot, as he still was a pro bowl player at the position. Better health could have him reach those elite levels of production once again.
The depth along the entire OL is the best we have seen in many years. The offense is going to have backups with starting experience that have the versatility to play multiple positions along the OL. Add in the return to the zone blocking scheme in which the OL has been prior success with, the group has potential to become even better.
A lot of young prospects, but with more experience they can become quality, high end starters for the future. Perhaps we will see some early growing pains, but by mid season this group could be very good!
Is one sack and one penalty bad?
I only read the very first bit, but we need to stop lying to ourselves.
Hyperbole is always bad, Frederick was not an all-pro last season but he was still a top tier center. He allowed only 1 sacks and had 1 penalty for the season. Saying he was a "shell of himself", come on.
Here is what happened along the OL this season.
LT got another year older
LG added competition from a redshirt sophomore
C lost a top tier center and only added a rookie coming off injury
RG is another year older
RT nothing has changed
Swing tackle we found a way to get worse, which I didn't think was possible.
When we look at the changes along the OL this season, the majority believe the unit will be not as good, mainly due to the loss of Travis Frederick.
Frederick was an all-pro center when he was healthy, but he was a shell of himself from the physical standpoint after his illness. He decided to call it a career, when he knew he could no longer play up to his high standards. The team will certainly feel his loss in leadership and his high IQ making all the pre-snap protection calls. Keep in mind we aren't replacing the all pro Travis, but rather the last year's version of him.
You can look up all the early 2020 mocks drafts and you will find Tyler Biadasz projected as a 1st round pick. Many media scouts projected him as a sure fire day 2 selection this year. His play did dip somewhat after hip surgery, but many believe he will be able to return close to 100%. Make no mistake, Biadasz is a high level prospect, no matter where he was drafted.
Connor McGovern received a 2nd rd grade from the Cowboy Front Office, in which they decided to take him when still available in rd 3. They said it was a blinking light pick, as he was atop of their draft board. Unfortunately, McGovern got hurt in the off-season workouts, in which he had to have a red shirt type of season. He has starting experience at both Guard and the Center positions. McGovern is considered a high level future starter prospect. The two Connor's are both talented players in which the loser becomes a quality,gameday, active reserve player.
Cameron Erving is an former 1st rd selection who has the versatility to backup all 5 positions and easily can spot start if needed. He might be a small upgrade over Fleming as the team's swing tackle, but he offers veteran insurance across the entire line.
Zach Martin was playing hurt all season long. Still was playing at a high level, but probably not on an all-pro level that he has in the past. Probably his worst season as a Cowboy, which is saying a lot, as he still was a pro bowl player at the position. Better health could have him reach those elite levels of production once again.
The depth along the entire OL is the best we have seen in many years. The offense is going to have backups with starting experience that have the versatility to play multiple positions along the OL. Add in the return to the zone blocking scheme in which the OL has been prior success with, the group has potential to become even better.
A lot of young prospects, but with more experience they can become quality, high end starters for the future. Perhaps we will see some early growing pains, but by mid season this group could be very good!
I'm guessing that the new OL scheme new OL coach Joe Philibin will be implementing will be based off positioning and zone scheme
vs man on man maul style Coumbo and asst. consultant Hudson Houck immediately implemented after the Paul Alexander firing.
- Oddly Marc Columbo worked under departed Frank Pollack, who in turn was a descending student of the Bill Callahan style of OL zone blocking scheme.
Speaking of Pollack, his firing seemed to be particularly aimed at the ATL/Chaz Green disaster.
Management admitted in pre-draft interviews that this game haunted them to no ends.
Exit Pollack, Enter Paul Alexander, who was by far even worst than Pollack and fired mid season, completely rare for an OL coach.
- While i really admired what Columbo brought in terms of individual training, and a physical approach and scheme to the OL unit
and he brought top results in terms of top notch pass protection among NFL teams. The splash run plays and run game creativity
seemed so bland and predictability. Everything seemed based on just running up the gut middle. (just like the 'ole Emmitt Smith 90's days)
i guess we thought we'd be just like the Great Wall of Dallas 90's OL ..and keep it simple and domination is due to follow ..
And i guess Columbo was more preferred to the 90's man blocking approach v..vs Frank Pollack's zone blocking scheme approach.
- Plus McCarthy not only has a right to bring in a guy he is better familiar with during his GB days, but also a guy that seems
to have proven to be successful at grooming drafted OL personnel into pro bowl caliber.
If Philibin's approach and scheme can generate productive splash plays vs run. while also maintaining excellent level vs pass
as well as achieving quality depth in backup roles,i'll be all agreement as Joe P. being a replacement for a quality OL coach in Columbo..
My only concerns with the OL:
- the lack of continuity time this OL will have with new OL coach Joe Philbin,.. with no OTA's,.. limited training camp,
practically no preseason game time, ..and totally assuming that we even have a NFL season.
- the full health and recovery of rookie center Tyler Badazzz;
- and BTW, another reason why to keep 2nd rd pick Conner Williams around as long as possible ?
Should Tyron Smith shockingly decide to call it quits (like Travis) - we could slide CW right into the LT role which he excelled at Texas.
And forget the talk of short arms as Lael Collins has similar arm length as does Williams, and look how he is panning out.
Also the option of flipping Collins to LT (he's left handed and he excelled at OT at LSU) while Williams moves to RT as well.
When we look at the changes along the OL this season, the majority believe the unit will be not as good, mainly due to the loss of Travis Frederick.
Frederick was an all-pro center when he was healthy, but he was a shell of himself from the physical standpoint after his illness. He decided to call it a career, when he knew he could no longer play up to his high standards. The team will certainly feel his loss in leadership and his high IQ making all the pre-snap protection calls. Keep in mind we aren't replacing the all pro Travis, but rather the last year's version of him.
You can look up all the early 2020 mocks drafts and you will find Tyler Biadasz projected as a 1st round pick. Many media scouts projected him as a sure fire day 2 selection this year. His play did dip somewhat after hip surgery, but many believe he will be able to return close to 100%. Make no mistake, Biadasz is a high level prospect, no matter where he was drafted.
Connor McGovern received a 2nd rd grade from the Cowboy Front Office, in which they decided to take him when still available in rd 3. They said it was a blinking light pick, as he was atop of their draft board. Unfortunately, McGovern got hurt in the off-season workouts, in which he had to have a red shirt type of season. He has starting experience at both Guard and the Center positions. McGovern is considered a high level future starter prospect. The two Connor's are both talented players in which the loser becomes a quality,gameday, active reserve player.
Cameron Erving is an former 1st rd selection who has the versatility to backup all 5 positions and easily can spot start if needed. He might be a small upgrade over Fleming as the team's swing tackle, but he offers veteran insurance across the entire line.
Zach Martin was playing hurt all season long. Still was playing at a high level, but probably not on an all-pro level that he has in the past. Probably his worst season as a Cowboy, which is saying a lot, as he still was a pro bowl player at the position. Better health could have him reach those elite levels of production once again.
The depth along the entire OL is the best we have seen in many years. The offense is going to have backups with starting experience that have the versatility to play multiple positions along the OL. Add in the return to the zone blocking scheme in which the OL has been prior success with, the group has potential to become even better.
A lot of young prospects, but with more experience they can become quality, high end starters for the future. Perhaps we will see some early growing pains, but by mid season this group could be very good!
I'm guessing that the new OL scheme new OL coach Joe Philibin will be implementing will be based off positioning and zone scheme
vs man on man maul style Coumbo and asst. consultant Hudson Houck immediately implemented after the Paul Alexander firing.
- Oddly Marc Columbo worked under departed Frank Pollack, who in turn was a descending student of the Bill Callahan style of OL zone blocking scheme.
Speaking of Pollack, his firing seemed to be particularly aimed at the ATL/Chaz Green disaster.
Management admitted in pre-draft interviews that this game haunted them to no ends.
Exit Pollack, Enter Paul Alexander, who was by far even worst than Pollack and fired mid season, completely rare for an OL coach.
- While i really admired what Columbo brought in terms of individual training, and a physical approach and scheme to the OL unit
and he brought top results in terms of top notch pass protection among NFL teams. The splash run plays and run game creativity
seemed so bland and predictability. Everything seemed based on just running up the gut middle. (just like the 'ole Emmitt Smith 90's days)
i guess we thought we'd be just like the Great Wall of Dallas 90's OL ..and keep it simple and domination is due to follow ..
And i guess Columbo was more preferred to the 90's man blocking approach v..vs Frank Pollack's zone blocking scheme approach.
- Plus McCarthy not only has a right to bring in a guy he is better familiar with during his GB days, but also a guy that seems
to have proven to be successful at grooming drafted OL personnel into pro bowl caliber.
If Philibin's approach and scheme can generate productive splash plays vs run. while also maintaining excellent level vs pass
as well as achieving quality depth in backup roles,i'll be all agreement as Joe P. being a replacement for a quality OL coach in Columbo..
My only concerns with the OL:
- the lack of continuity time this OL will have with new OL coach Joe Philbin,.. with no OTA's,.. limited training camp,
practically no preseason game time, ..and totally assuming that we even have a NFL season.
- the full health and recovery of rookie center Tyler Badazzz;
- and BTW, another reason why to keep 2nd rd pick Conner Williams around as long as possible ?
Should Tyron Smith shockingly decide to call it quits (like Travis) - we could slide CW right into the LT role which he excelled at Texas.
And forget the talk of short arms as Lael Collins has similar arm length as does Williams, and look how he is panning out.
Also the option of flipping Collins to LT (he's left handed and he excelled at OT at LSU) while Williams moves to RT as well.
Nah. Want the realist approach
I'll go ahead and say it.....If we go young....there will be some growing pains...but I think the kids have a higher ceiling than Frederick/Conner ever had...
LT-Smith
LG-McGovern
C- Biadasz
RG-Martin
RT-Collins
I'm guessing that the new OL scheme new OL coach Joe Philibin will be implementing will be based off positioning and zone scheme
vs man on man maul style Coumbo and asst. consultant Hudson Houck immediately implemented after the Paul Alexander firing.
- Oddly Marc Columbo worked under departed Frank Pollack, who in turn was a descending student of the Bill Callahan style of OL zone blocking scheme.
Speaking of Pollack, his firing seemed to be particularly aimed at the ATL/Chaz Green disaster.
Management admitted in pre-draft interviews that this game haunted them to no ends.
Exit Pollack, Enter Paul Alexander, who was by far even worst than Pollack and fired mid season, completely rare for an OL coach.
- While i really admired what Columbo brought in terms of individual training, and a physical approach and scheme to the OL unit
and he brought top results in terms of top notch pass protection among NFL teams. The splash run plays and run game creativity
seemed so bland and predictability. Everything seemed based on just running up the gut middle. (just like the 'ole Emmitt Smith 90's days)
i guess we thought we'd be just like the Great Wall of Dallas 90's OL ..and keep it simple and domination is due to follow ..
And i guess Columbo was more preferred to the 90's man blocking approach v..vs Frank Pollack's zone blocking scheme approach.
- Plus McCarthy not only has a right to bring in a guy he is better familiar with during his GB days, but also a guy that seems
to have proven to be successful at grooming drafted OL personnel into pro bowl caliber.
If Philibin's approach and scheme can generate productive splash plays vs run. while also maintaining excellent level vs pass
as well as achieving quality depth in backup roles,i'll be all agreement as Joe P. being a replacement for a quality OL coach in Columbo..
My only concerns with the OL:
- the lack of continuity time this OL will have with new OL coach Joe Philbin,.. with no OTA's,.. limited training camp,
practically no preseason game time, ..and totally assuming that we even have a NFL season.
- the full health and recovery of rookie center Tyler Badazzz;
- and BTW, another reason why to keep 2nd rd pick Conner Williams around as long as possible ?
Should Tyron Smith shockingly decide to call it quits (like Travis) - we could slide CW right into the LT role which he excelled at Texas.
And forget the talk of short arms as Lael Collins has similar arm length as does Williams, and look how he is panning out.
Also the option of flipping Collins to LT (he's left handed and he excelled at OT at LSU) while Williams moves to RT as well.