We need to find Tyron Smith replacement

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I have said this before and I will say it again.... we need to be ready to plug in Tyron Smith’s replacement. He is in a constant state of injury. I don’t blame him...he has a lot of miles on his body.

We really should have replaced Sean Lee too. He is made of glass, way past his prime, and planning on using him is an exercise in futility.
dont sleep on knight. He did really good after he settled in
 

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Tyrone Smith is far from done, Connor Williams on the other hand....
He's not done but he's hurt almost every year in football your greatest ability is availability. Conner Williams is what he is. I'm guessing the other Conner hasn't shown much either our we wouldn't be looking at Ron Leary
 

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If he can stay on the field. His missed games for 5 straight seasons now and at some point, one of these injuries is going to cost him more than 2-3 games a year. That doesn't mean you chuck him on the scrap heap, but if you have an opportunity to add a big time OT in the draft, you'd be wise to take it. It would be foolish to keep planning on Smith being healthy and holding down the LT spot for 3-5 more years.

I think that's the real point. The term should be "backup option", not "replacement". They need a young, reliable player capable of playing left tackle if and when needed. And undeniably, they have needed it for the past several years, and again early on this season as well. The Cowboys have a great deal in Smith's contract so they're not going to cut or trade him. He's well worth the price when he's out there, especially when compared to the cost of other left tackles. You don;t just toss that advantage aside. But given his mounting history of injuries. you also don't put all your eggs in that one basket either.

Knight has done well both times he's been pressed into duty, I think they found a gem in him, maybe he is in fact, that capable backup at left tackle?
 

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I know our FO is deserving of criticism, but we did draft Jaylon and LVE. It's not as if they ignored the Sean Lee dilemma. At the same time I have to wonder if they would consider moving LC to LT and replacing our RT position. In both cases we need LBs and Tackles next off-season, although the youngsters were surprisingly not terrible yesterday.

I give them zero credit for drafting Jaylon. He was a huge risk and it did not pay off at all. They tried to be cute and it has blown up in their face. And they gave that spare a big extension.
 

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I have said this before and I will say it again.... we need to be ready to plug in Tyron Smith’s replacement. He is in a constant state of injury. I don’t blame him...he has a lot of miles on his body.

We really should have replaced Sean Lee too. He is made of glass, way past his prime, and planning on using him is an exercise in futility.
It is an unhappy reality we need to face. I have no doubt the fo is aware of it, too.
 

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My concern is that his injuries appear to be chronic. The weight lifting may very well be what caused the damage to his back and neck. If it’s chronic, where do we jump off?

His contract is Cowboys friendly, so the team is not looking to get out of it. Moreover his level of play is satisfactory when he actually plays. The big issue, as I see it, is that at some point he will no longer be able to play at all.

The Cowboys need to be prepared for that eventuality as it may be coming sooner rather than later, especially if we are going to pay Dak $40m per year with lots of guaranteed money.

They have to find a replacement before even thinking about what to do with Tyron.

It is understandable that they have not used an early pick on an OT. I would have drafted more OTs in the mid to late rounds.

Just take the final draft board rankings each year and move up all OTs ranked in rounds 4 to 7 up by a full round.
 

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I give them zero credit for drafting Jaylon. He was a huge risk and it did not pay off at all. They tried to be cute and it has blown up in their face. And they gave that spare a big extension.

No, that's not looking smart at all. Not from a draft standpoint, not from a contract standpoint, not from an on-field role standpoint.
 

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No. You can't easily replace guys like Smith, and you might spend tons of resources will no guarantee of return. We just need to find a good swing tackle. Knight might be it.
 

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We are only 2 weeks in here so we have to see what happens but yes it looks more and more that tyron is gonna be injury prone here in his later career years. I’ll give him the benefit of this doubt still on this year and hope he turns it around as it’s only week 2 and maybe proactively they wanted him to sit out.

curious tho and just hypothetically let’s say he comes back and stays healthy and plays 13 games or so at a high level- it may be a chance to gauge interest in him around the league. Not saying you bite but that’s a sell high opportunity for Dallas and I wonder what he’d be able to fetch.
I'm all for making business decisions but Tyron is off limits. He's EARNED the right to retire a Cowboy, hopefully a champion Cowboy.
 

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I give them zero credit for drafting Jaylon. He was a huge risk and it did not pay off at all. They tried to be cute and it has blown up in their face. And they gave that spare a big extension.

You could also give ZERO credit for drafting a guy like LVE who had injury concerns and I would think maybe some teams took him off their board all together. We need to draft a stud LB without huge red flags.
 

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No, that's not looking smart at all. Not from a draft standpoint, not from a contract standpoint, not from an on-field role

Contract wise they should've treaded Jaylon like Demarco Murray by making him an offer commensurate to his abilities & deficiencies and not going anywhere near the top end LB market. Then we'd have seen his true value on ANOTHER team without being saddled with that stupid contract.
 

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You could also give ZERO credit for drafting a guy like LVE who had injury concerns and I would think maybe some teams took him off their board all together. We need to draft a stud LB without huge red flags.

That's very true as well. And looking more true all the time.
 

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I know our FO is deserving of criticism, but we did draft Jaylon and LVE. It's not as if they ignored the Sean Lee dilemma. At the same time I have to wonder if they would consider moving LC to LT and replacing our RT position. In both cases we need LBs and Tackles next off-season, although the youngsters were surprisingly not terrible yesterday.

All depends upon the current new OL coach Joe Philibin.

- He may have a totally different mindset and view.. vs the departed Marc Columbo.
He may decide to keep Collins where he is, as Lael is left handed he could move him over to LT when Tyron departs.

-And then it goes to who he likes, and who may not care for as players, ala Conner McGovern.
Seems Philibin likes or prefer rookie Tyler Badazzz over 2nd year McGovern, as Conner M has yet to receive any
reps-snaps as sub fill OG.

- Williams who was on the ground a lot was actually subbed by Tyler at LG, instead of McGovern who was
game inactive vs Rams.

- It did me good to see not only Brandon Knight playing.. but actually starting at LT, when he only saw rookie action at RT vs Jets.
And though there were injuries to DE's Fowler and McKinney that limited their snaps, which damn sure helped our cause.
 

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Yeah I have no issue with how they handled it but in hindsight....they need to stay away from injury prone linebackers.You can get away with that at probably any other position but who takes more contact on the defensive side of the ball than the linebackers? You need to be durable to play that position.

I have no issue with the Jaylon pick. It was a risk...its debatable if its paying off. If LVE had injury flags that was too early to draft a guy with those neck problems.

Ditto here as well.

- Pre-injury Jaylon was long touted as the best LB in his draft but also a top overall talent. Per our own medical specialists it was recommended
that it would take some time, but he'd eventually recover enough to play again in the NFL.

My problem with Jay has nothing to do with his limited change of direction but more so his questionable instincts and lack of physicality.
Something that he apparently wasn't showing a lack of at the college level.

- With LVE, at draft time, i heard more concerns about his questionable shed-ability than the concerning neck injury, and it's assumed that the Cowboys
medical staff (just like jaylon's own pre-draft medical concerns) addressed the red flags that clear McClay & co. to draft Vander Esch.
And LVE responded with a rookie pro bowl year at that. But unfortunately injuries and questionable play has stunned his development.

One of my biggest concerns is how these LBs are so easily fooled by misdirection and wiped washed in traffic - and they don't
create turnovers (ala ATL's Foye Oluokun 's peanut-punch fumbles)
 

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Another Tackle? Add it to the list of a few more DEs, LBs amd DBs. I know it's looking far too much into the future, but there are a ton of expiring contracts coming up. Especially on the defensive side of the ball.
 

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isn’t he only 29?
age doesn't matter when you've had almost 140 starts in the NFL (regular season + playoffs)

You see this a lot in MMA. Dudes will go pro really young and get to the UFC in their early twenties but by the time they're 27-28 they're completely washed up
 
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Ahhh the whackamole attempt to have an All Pro at every position in Dallas...because no coach that Jerry will hire or will work for Jerry knows how to scheme around a weakness.
 
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