Does Dalton do anything better than Dak?

[ScipioCowboy]

Quicker release, maybe a little more raw arm talent, hence where the players were selected in the draft.

Most reasonable people would rather Dak start, but there are areas that might improve with Dalton, such as red zone passing.

 

[fivetwos]

Pocket awareness will be better (and will need to be).

Dalton will be a bit more accurate on short and medium passes.

Dalton will not, on the way to the ground on a sack, repeatedly attempt some dump off underhand pass, where the upside is a small gain, but usually results in a fumble.

If theres one thing that annoys me about Prescott is when he tries that crap when he needs to take the sack....or better yet....be gone out of the pocket already.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Just read through some of the pages here...some people think we upgraded in a major way!

 

[zrinkill]

Honest answer .......Dalton is probably a better pure passer in a laboratory situation. I think as far as passing goes, Dalton's highs are not as high and his lows are not as low as Dak's.

 

[conner01]

I just laugh at people that say Dalton is more accurate. Dalton has years of 14, 16, 17 and 20 picks and that's more accurate. Prescott's worst season is 11 and his best is 4. Prescott's completion percentage of passes of 20 and 40 yards is higher than Dalton and oh BTW last season until week 15 Prescott led the entire NFL for those, something Dalton never did. So just WHEN has Dalton been more accurate. Was in during his 5 winless tries in the playoffs?
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Perception and reality are rarely the same

 

[Verdict]

it has been mentioned that the offense will have to be tweaked to some degree now, like fewer if any RPO's, etc. With that, if certain plays are being pulled out, is there an opportunity to put more plays in that are Dalton's bread and butter? If so, what are they? What are his strenghts that can be played to? West Coast stuff?

Ask me after he plays with the same roster Dak has played with. Its hard to compare a QB playing om different teams during different time periods.

 

[Verdict]

You aren't wrong, but thats a very narrow way to look at accuracy. Dak doesn't get enough credit for how much he has improved in that department. he still struggles with more pinpoint accuracy, but throws a very catchable ball. Im not sure the results will be better, worse, or the same, but you'll see a different style moving forward.

Dak has improved with his accuracy but he often throws behind receivers.

 

[WillieBeamen]

@khiladi

 

[morasp]

It would be fun to the compare the yards after catch.

 

[CATCH17]

it has been mentioned that the offense will have to be tweaked to some degree now, like fewer if any RPO's, etc. With that, if certain plays are being pulled out, is there an opportunity to put more plays in that are Dalton's bread and butter? If so, what are they? What are his strenghts that can be played to? West Coast stuff?

Yes.. Throwing the football.. Reading defenses quicker.

The deep ball to Gallup down the sideline was thrown while the safety on that side was crashing down to the flat. He saw it instantly and didn’t need to see Gallup wide open before he threw it.

You see the matchup and you let it go.

 

[Red Dragon]

The only thing I can think of that Dalton has an advantage over Dak on would be

1) the deep ball; and
2) more experience. Dalton has 5 more years of experience under his belt than Dak - and did so by playing in a tougher division than Dak (the Steelers and Ravens are tough for opposing QBs.)

 

[gjkoeppen]

You aren't wrong, but thats a very narrow way to look at accuracy. Dak doesn't get enough credit for how much he has improved in that department. he still struggles with more pinpoint accuracy, but throws a very catchable ball. Im not sure the results will be better, worse, or the same, but you'll see a different style moving forward.

What do you think is a fair way to look at accuracy? Are picks not relevant? Are completion percentages not relevant?

Both the offense and defense played harder and better after Prescott's injury. They did that for Prescott and that kind of intensity won't last for 11 more games. It was sort of like when someone displays some kind of physical strength after something horrible happens like a mother lifting something because her child is trapped under it.

I think to try to limit what Dalton has to do that the Cowboys will first try to reignite a running game but with this current offensive line that's asking a lot. Unlike last week when Dalton HAD to throw those deep passes that Gallup made a couple of really great athletic circus catches, I think the the Cowboys will try to do a more west coast offense with short passes that Dalton won't have to hold the ball long. Unfortunately the defenses will also figure that the Cowboys will try to run the ball and stack the defense to stop that by doing run blitzes. If the Cowboys decide to pass those run blitzes will then be passing blitzes and again with this line won't be good.

I always hope the Cowboys win but looking at things with my mind and not my heart I don't see a rosy picture for the Cowboys.
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[Praxit]

......you might be able to say, he finally has a time to shine being on good offense. Red Derby might surprise the hell out of us.

 

[Established1971]

it has been mentioned that the offense will have to be tweaked to some degree now, like fewer if any RPO's, etc. With that, if certain plays are being pulled out, is there an opportunity to put more plays in that are Dalton's bread and butter? If so, what are they? What are his strenghts that can be played to? West Coast stuff?

Dunno but I am dying to see how he is in the red zone, specifically inside the 10 because I have always found that to be one of Dak's weaknesses.
Also I am curious to see how he pulls off the rpo or how he hands the ball off to Zeke. I always found the Dak-to-Zeke handoff to be done in a way that delays Zeke a bit and does not allow him to hit the holes with the proper momentum.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Ask me after he plays with the same roster Dak has played with. Its hard to compare a QB playing om different teams during different time periods.

You forget that Dalton had a top 5 receiver with A.J. Green yet he still threw 14, 16, 17 and 20 picks in a season. He also twice led the league in fumbles by QB's. The Cowboys now have had two backup QB's with fumbling problems. Kitna who I think holds record for career fumbles and now Dalton.
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[JJHLH1]

Wouldnt it be totally odd if with Dalton our offense is ranked 8th, but our defense were to somehow improve.

That would be a big drop off for the offense which is #1 currently by a large margin, crushing every other team in yards per game and 2nd only to Seattle in points scored.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team

 

[charron]

it has been mentioned that the offense will have to be tweaked to some degree now, like fewer if any RPO's, etc. With that, if certain plays are being pulled out, is there an opportunity to put more plays in that are Dalton's bread and butter? If so, what are they? What are his strenghts that can be played to? West Coast stuff?

He ran rpo's before. The difference in their ability to run is Dalton is not the big truck that Dak is, but they are very similar as far as speed and ability to extend with their feet. Dalton is a better passer than Dak.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Dunno but I am dying to see how he is in the red zone, specifically inside the 10 because I have always found that to be one of Dak's weaknesses.
Also I am curious to see how he pulls off the rpo or how he hands the ball off to Zeke. I always found the Dak-to-Zeke handoff to be done in a way that delays Zeke a bit and does not allow him to hit the holes with the proper momentum.

Your Prescott to Elliott handoffs make me laugh. If you were a former NFL coach or QB that said that I would tend to put more stock in that, but a fan wanting to sound like he is a coach, not so much.
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[SteveTheCowboy]

He prays better so Hail Mary's might get answered more often.

A being your good ol ray of sunshine self I see!

 

[PAPPYDOG]

it has been mentioned that the offense will have to be tweaked to some degree now, like fewer if any RPO's, etc. With that, if certain plays are being pulled out, is there an opportunity to put more plays in that are Dalton's bread and butter? If so, what are they? What are his strenghts that can be played to? West Coast stuff?

Nothing.....Dak is the best QB in the NFL and a shoo-in for the HOF!!