Video: ESPN: Marcus Spears - Dak Should leave Dallas go to 49ers

[fivetwos]

I watched this play out with Romo. You guys didn't pay attention. Please pay attention this time.

There is going to be massive holes somewhere on this roster with a QB thats paid. You would like to see that be at positions like WR and RB where we aren't spending a ton of money.. Instead we chose to invest in those positions.

So with a Oline declining, a defense in severe need of talent, a RB who is terrible value, please do tell me how we will field a roster that we can win with.

Because by a lot of you guys standard Dak was UH MAZIN this year and we were a watermelon kick from 0-4.

I respect your position on this. Your logic makes sense.

I also think it's right up there with hoping Jerry sells the team.

Dak is going to put up numbers wherever he goes. Hollow maybe, but irrelevant.

The rookie QB they get (Lawrence is out of the question) has at least a 50/50 shot of being Ryan Leaf.

That's exactly when and where the team falls off the map and they begin to lose fans and revenue noticeably.

Theres NO shot....NONE....that Jerry doesnt take the safe route there. He can much more easily sell hope with Prescott around.

I'm not saying this is what I would do or want, but I'm saying there's just next to no way they dont being back Prescott.

 

[IceStar-D7]

When is the last time we used a premium pick on a QB? Maybe there is a correlation?

Look around the league. There is a lot of good QB's. They're all pretty similar with only a few truly elite and a few truly terrible starters.

Troy Aikman. I believe. You make the point around the league at qb equals a few elite minus Homeboy are tested vets. I'd say Dak would be at worse a mid level quarterback. I think he's higher. Now minus the Viking guy...I call him that because he looks like a typical Hollywood Vikingfrom Clemson. Is the only guarantee. And he might turn out to be another Wentz. So Dak is the safest and best pick.IMO. If you can get the money right and Dak learns how to start faster. Offense is NOT our problem. With the Oline coming back next season? We'd be once again a top 3 offense. Starting over with even the Viking. Would be problematic at best. I'm the biggest OSU guy around. Fields is NOT ready! Just like the past OSU quarterbacks weren't. It's Lawrence or bust for the draft at qb. IMO. And he might turn out to be like our Lawrence at DE

 

[Carson]

I respect your position on this. Your logic makes sense.

I also think it's right up there with hoping Jerry sells the team.

Dak is going to put up numbers wherever he goes. Hollow maybe, but irrelevant.

The rookie QB they get (Lawrence is out of the question) has at least a 50/50 shot of being Ryan Leaf.

That's exactly when and where the team falls off the map and they begin to lose fans and revenue noticeably.

Theres NO shot....NONE....that Jerry doesnt take the safe route there. He can much more easily sell hope with Prescott around.

I'm not saying this is what I would do or want, but I'm saying there's just next to no way they dont being back Prescott.

Dak gets his entire offense back. All starting 11, + CeeDee, Pollard and Schultz. He knows he has a good thing here

 

[CATCH17]

I respect your position on this. Your logic makes sense.

I also think it's right up there with hoping Jerry sells the team.

Dak is going to put up numbers wherever he goes. Hollow maybe, but irrelevant.

The rookie QB they get (Lawrence is out of the question) has at least a 50/50 shot of being Ryan Leaf.

That's exactly when and where the team falls off the map and they begin to lose fans and revenue noticeably.

Theres NO shot....NONE....that Jerry doesnt take the safe route there. He can much more easily sell hope with Prescott around.

I'm not saying this is what I would do or want, but I'm saying there's just next to no way they dont being back Prescott.

I agree..

But...

What gives me hope is they haven't done a deal and they have made it known that they need to be able to have space to put players around him.

By the looks of this roster.. They are a long way off.

 

[Qcard]

I watched this play out with Romo. You guys didn't pay attention. Please pay attention this time.

I always pay attention and I REMEMBER TOO!

Aren’t you the same @CATCH17 whom post CeeDee Lamb was not “a great athlete”...you do understand this Forum has history and content search capabilities?

I also watched Romo, I was at the First preseason game Romo took his first Dallas Cowboys snap.

We paid attention...you created a myth. Romo 1-2 in play-Offs , Dak 1-2 ; Dalton 0-4

There is going to be massive holes somewhere on this roster with a QB thats paid. You would like to see that be at positions like WR and RB where we aren't spending a ton of money.. Instead we chose to invest in those positions.

So with a Oline declining, a defense in severe need of talent, a RB who is terrible value, please do tell me how we will field a roster that we can win with.

Because by a lot of you guys standard Dak was UH MAZIN this year and we were a watermelon kick from 0-4.

It appears you haven’t been paying attention.....remember the Cap Hell the Rams were supposed to face because of Gurley? That’s just a recent example. Cap hell is a myth spread by lazy Gms and cheap Owners to gullible fans. Good GMs find a way to adjust.

The Cowboys failure wasn’t a product of poor cap or a plethora of bad contracts. Injuries is 100% guaranteed. The teams that stay the healthiest win.

Romo Choked with Parcells...fans blamed Crayton on the play before the pick and Dez caught it. Romo isn’t the first Franchise QB to face adversity!

Don’t bring Romo garbage into our new situation.

 

[CATCH17]

Troy Aikman. I believe. You make the point around the league at qb equals a few elite minus Homeboy are tested vets. I'd say Dak would be at worse a mid level quarterback. I think he's higher. Now minus the Viking guy...I call him that because he looks like a typical Hollywood Vikingfrom Clemson. Is the only guarantee. And he might turn out to be another Wentz. So Dak is the safest and best pick.IMO. If you can get the money right and Dak learns how to start faster. Offense is NOT our problem. With the Oline coming back next season? We'd be once again a top 3 offense. Starting over with even the Viking. Would be problematic at best. I'm the biggest OSU guy around. Fields is NOT ready! Just like the past OSU quarterbacks weren't. It's Lawrence or bust for the draft at qb. IMO. And he might turn out to be like our Lawrence at DE

I'm not sold on Fields by any means but I think his game is so similar to Dak and he is a better athlete on top of that. I think his deep ball potential is better than Dak's too.

I hate his lack of anticipation on throws and how everything just looks mechanical at times.

 

[Risen Star]

I agree.

Does he need help moving his things?

 

[Praxit]

He should. For his own sake.

...might be best sane comment. Jerry Jones Cowboys seems more like quicksand for players then winning output.

 

[CATCH17]

I always pay attention and I REMEMBER TOO!

Aren’t you the same @CATCH17 whom post CeeDee Lamb was not “a great athlete”...you do understand this Forum has history and content search capabilities?

I also watched Romo, I was at the First preseason game Romo took his first Dallas Cowboys snap.

We paid attention...you created a myth. Romo 1-2 in play-Offs , Dak 1-2 ; Dalton 0-4


It appears you haven’t been paying attention.....remember the Cap Hell the Rams were supposed to face because of Gurley? That’s just a recent example. Cap hell is a myth spread by lazy Gms and cheap Owners to gullible fans. Good GMs find a way to adjust.

The Cowboys failure wasn’t a product of poor cap or a plethora of bad contracts?

Romo Choked with Parcells...fans blamed Crayton on the play before the pick and Dez caught.

Don’t bring Romo garbage into our new situation.

In terms of combine Testing Lamb was not that great of an athlete and that is why they have the combine for is to test athleticism.

I based that on facts presented by combine results and how we measure them as athletes and not skill players.

I'm also the guy that said he was the best WR in the draft.

I watched probably more Lamb in college than most of you and his big thing in college was catch and run. YAC. He's a rookie.. A very promising rookie. But we haven't seen him just dominate with YAC like he did in college or just go up and grab a football.

Paying Gurley was stupid.

 

[fivetwos]

I agree..

But...

What gives me hope is they haven't done a deal and they have made it known that they need to be able to have space to put players around him.

By the looks of this roster.. They are a long way off.

Another side note on that is your line of thinking also includes the ability to go out and spend the cap savings on defensive players. Figure two starters. Possibly three.

They NEVER use UFA as a means to acquire players. I mean second contract types....not dumpster diving.

You're asking them to go WAY outside their comfort zone in several areas and I just dont see it.

I also dont trust them to not screw up the signings.

I truly do understand your premise though....status quo means mediocrity at best and you want change....I cant see it happening, plus so many other things would need to go right, I'm not sure bringing back #4 and using hope as a plan on defense isnt a better option.

I mean...we are probably beat either way. No coaching staff can succeed here with the way the place is run.

It's a matter of which way we go down.

 

[aria]

Shannahan would be great for his career.

That team is young and hasn't been decimated by big contracts yet either so they can get by for a bit with paying Dak. Championship level though? I think their division is closing in on them quick and Seattle may finally recover from the Wilson deal.

Possibly but they may be and/or have been the most decimated trams due to injuries this year. That D can be really good, a couple key pieces on offense and I could see them being contenders next year.

Who knows, like everything, just speculation.

 

[aria]

In order for that to happen, Dallas would actually have to make the playoffs...

Lol, yeah, I think that’s why I may have said “may or maybe”. If I didn’t I certainly meant to.

 

[Flamma]

I think the problem with trading Dak is a team will not want to give up a 1 and also sign him to a huge contract. So Dallas may have to lower their asking price and take a 2 which is still a big W with money saved and re-opening a possible Superbowl window.

It's a bigger problem than you think. They'd have to tag Dak first, then trade him. And this is his second tag. How many teams want close to a 40 million dollar cap hit next year? That's on top of what you mentioned.

 

[Qcard]

In terms of combine Testing Lamb was not that great of an athlete and that is why they have the combine for is to test athleticism.

I based that on facts presented by combine results and how we measure them as athletes and not skill players.

I'm also the guy that said he was the best WR in the draft.

I watched probably more Lamb in college than most of you and his big thing in college was catch and run. YAC. He's a rookie.. A very promising rookie. But we haven't seen him just dominate with YAC like he did in college or just go up and grab a football.

Again, how could you have watched CeeDee Lamb on the FIELD in college then somehow deduce after the COMBINE that CeeDee is the best WR but not a great Athlete!!

CeeDee made one of the most athletic catch in history at the Combine. The 360 pirouette catch on the sideline on a corner route.

You also tried to tell us Dalton was similar to Dak. I bet you Dalton thinks CeeDee Lamb is a great athlete

Like I said you Dak Haters are weird.

 

[blueblood70]

Well, if the 49ers want to hand over two 1st for him be my guest.

why not a 1st and 3rd far more realistic we dump a contract and get good draft picks..

 

[IceStar-D7]

I'm not sold on Fields by any means but I think his game is so similar to Dak and he is a better athlete on top of that. I think his deep ball potential is better than Dak's too.

I hate his lack of anticipation on throws and how everything just looks mechanical at times.

Exactly. His reads are slow. He hesitates after his first read is taken away. And he used to hold onto the ball to long until the coach told him to just throw it away. Of which he has been doing. I hope he has a great career regardless. But I've watched him closely and I don't sadly think he's a top 2 quarterback in this years draft. To be honest. I don't see any qb in this years draft as a top 2 pick after Lawrence. But again to be fair. None of these guys had enough time this season to be at their best. Buyers beware for all these guys including Lawrence.

 

[CATCH17]

Again, how could you have watched CeeDee Lamb on the FIELD in college then somehow deduce after the COMBINE that CeeDee is the best WR but not a great Athlete!!

CeeDee made one of the most athletic catch in history at the Combine. The 360 pirouette catch on the sideline on a corner route.

You also tried to tell us Dalton was similar to Dak. I bet you Dalton thinks CeeDee Lamb is a great athlete

Like I said you Dak Haters are weird.

Because CeeDee Lamb did not test as a great athlete.

His body control in game is great.. I don't know how they would measure that but it jumps off the tape even college.

In terms of testing athletes.. Not so great.

BTW... I had him as the best WR in the class. I thought Ruggs might be the best fit for our team because of the speed element but in terms of best WR I had Lamb.

So if you have a problem with anyone then look at real NFL GM's who said Jeudy and Ruggs were better than Lamb because I had him at the top.

Lamb was the #3 WR taken. Ask them why. I had him #1.

 

[OmerV]

Today we are sitting at pick 4. So I don't think I said anything that isn't a realistic thing. Unless you think getting a 1 for Dak is not realistic which I could agree with.

What you said isn't wildly unrealistic. My comment was really more directed at the overall commentary and not just you, although it may not seem that way since I quoted you. What I find unrealistic the assumption that Dak can just decide to go to SF, or that SF would won't be satisfied staying with Garoppolo at his current salary structure.

And I agree that it would be hard to trade Dak for a #1 because Dak isn't under contract long term, and also because most good teams that can forgo a 1st round pick already have their QB, and most bottom teams aren't going to trade a pick at the top of the draft.

 

[John813]

why not a 1st and 3rd far more realistic we dump a contract and get good draft picks..

Said two firsts due to a team offer sheeting his franchise tag.

For a 1st and a 3rd, I would want that 1st to be a high pick.

 

[CATCH17]

Exactly. His reads are slow. He hesitates after his first read is taken away. And he used to hold onto the ball to long until the coach told him to just throw it away. Of which he has been doing. I hope he has a great career regardless. But I've watched him closely and I don't sadly think he's a top 2 quarterback in this years draft. To be honest. I don't see any qb in this years draft as a top 2 pick after Lawrence. But again to be fair. None of these guys had enough time this season to be at their best. Buyers beware for all these guys including Lawrence.

I've said all year that I think Fields being the #2 QB was in jeopardy while many have tried to tell me he is a better NFL prospect than LAwrence lol.

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