Trying to rank the DT's in the class

[Cowboyny]

Clearly the team needs major help at the DT position, along with Quinn's scheme calling for more of a 4T at LE, which is similar to playing a third DT.

Let's try to rank them based on the Cowboys specifically:

1) Barmore (hybrid can play 1, 3 or 4-best skillset as an interior rusher)
2) Onwuzurike (was dominate in 1 day of practice, might be the best pure 3 in the class)
3) Nixon (had a huge breakout season, is a 3T only prospect)
4) Tufele (another hybrid, did play some 4T at USC, but can play any spot)
5) McNeil (played 0T/NT and offers some pass rush abilities)
6) Wilson (might be too high, but was once considered a top 20 prospect)
7) Togai (can play the 1 or 4T roles, more of a 2 down player)
8) Shelvin (your prototype NT, who cannot be moved, but offers zero pass rush)
9) Tuipulotu (hybrid, potential 3 down player)
10) Slaton (see Shelvin)

Just missed the cut: Odighizuwa, Tonga

How would you rank them and who do you want?

 

[Carson]

Shelvin is what this team needs

 

[cnuball21]

Clearly the team needs major help at the DT position, along with Quinn's scheme calling for more of a 4T at LE, which is similar to playing a third DT.

Let's try to rank them based on the Cowboys specifically:

1) Barmore (hybrid can play 1, 3 or 4-best skillset as an interior rusher)
2) Onwuzurike (was dominate in 1 day of practice, might be the best pure 3 in the class)
3) Nixon (had a huge breakout season, is a 3T only prospect)
4) Tufele (another hybrid, did play some 4T at USC, but can play any spot)
5) McNeil (played 0T/NT and offers some pass rush abilities)
6) Wilson (might be too high, but was once considered a top 20 prospect)
7) Togai (can play the 1 or 4T roles, more of a 2 down player)
8) Shelvin (your prototype NT, who cannot be moved, but offers zero pass rush)
9) Tuipulotu (hybrid, potential 3 down player)
10) Slaton (see Shelvin)

Just missed the cut: Odighizuwa, Tonga

How would you rank them and who do you want?

I think a lot of it is going to come down to team preference and what they’re looking for. My favorites in the class are McNeil and Wilson bc I think there the most balanced.

Barmore probably has the most potential but he disappears at times and is mediocre against the run. Levi is solid but how is he going to hold up against the run at 290?

 

[Cowboyny]

I think a lot of it is going to come down to team preference and what they’re looking for. My favorites in the class are McNeil and Wilson bc I think there the most balanced.

Barmore probably has the most potential but he disappears at times and is mediocre against the run. Levi is solid but how is he going to hold up against the run at 290?

Our run defensive is the biggest weakness for the team, that has to be the #1 priority: McNeil, Wilson, Shelvin, Slaton. Since the 4T spot is like a 3-4 DE, you would think they may double dip at the position if the board plays out that way. The pure 3T's should come off the board first, but those two down run players could be ranked totally differently throughout the league.

 

[Cowboyny]

Shelvin is what this team needs

My worry with Shelvin, him taking a yr off, he could have eaten himself out of the league.

 

[cnuball21]

Our run defensive is the biggest weakness for the team, that has to be the #1 priority: McNeil, Wilson, Shelvin, Slaton. Since the 4T spot is like a 3-4 DE, you would think they may double dip at the position if the board plays out that way. The pure 3T's should come off the board first, but those two down run players could be ranked totally differently throughout the league.

I think Gallimore is going to turn into a solid starter...but I think he's a better pass rush type than run defender. We really, really need someone that can anchor and impact the run game as we've been ignoring that type for years.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Shelvin is what this team needs

After the 4th. Yes. Anything else is too high for a 2 down player

 

[Beaker42]

Clearly the team needs major help at the DT position, along with Quinn's scheme calling for more of a 4T at LE, which is similar to playing a third DT.

Let's try to rank them based on the Cowboys specifically:

1) Barmore (hybrid can play 1, 3 or 4-best skillset as an interior rusher)
2) Onwuzurike (was dominate in 1 day of practice, might be the best pure 3 in the class)
3) Nixon (had a huge breakout season, is a 3T only prospect)
4) Tufele (another hybrid, did play some 4T at USC, but can play any spot)
5) McNeil (played 0T/NT and offers some pass rush abilities)
6) Wilson (might be too high, but was once considered a top 20 prospect)
7) Togai (can play the 1 or 4T roles, more of a 2 down player)
8) Shelvin (your prototype NT, who cannot be moved, but offers zero pass rush)
9) Tuipulotu (hybrid, potential 3 down player)
10) Slaton (see Shelvin)

Just missed the cut: Odighizuwa, Tonga

How would you rank them and who do you want?

McNeil, Nixon, Tufele then all the rest

 

[visionary]

Give me Nixon it Barmore early

then McNeil or Togiai or Shelvin later
My own preference at 1T would be to sign Dalvin Tomlinson in FA to fix the position

 

[tm1119]

Our run defensive is the biggest weakness for the team, that has to be the #1 priority: McNeil, Wilson, Shelvin, Slaton. Since the 4T spot is like a 3-4 DE, you would think they may double dip at the position if the board plays out that way. The pure 3T's should come off the board first, but those two down run players could be ranked totally differently throughout the league.

Upgraded run defense is important...but we were also 8th worst in the NFL at pressuring the QB (hurries, knockdowns, and sacks combined). Staying put and just adding run stuffers will be like taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back. It's nearly impossible to have a successful D without getting to the QB. The need for players that can get to the QB is going WAY underrated here.

 

[Cowboyny]

Upgraded run defense is important...but we were also 8th worst in the NFL at pressuring the QB (hurries, knockdowns, and sacks combined). Staying put and just adding run stuffers will be like taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back. It's nearly impossible to have a successful D without getting to the QB. The need for players that can get to the QB is going WAY underrated here.

They have needs for both areas. However, there isn't just such player in this draft class for can effectively do both at this time.

I believe the priority is first finding that legitimate 1 Tech run stuffer as they don't have any such player on this roster. One who can anchor and take on multiple blockers to free up our linebackers. All we have is A. Woods and he isn't a great fit for that role and might not even be on the roster next season. Finding a quality two down player is absolutely necessary, getting pressure won't mean anything if teams continue to dominate us on the ground.

The 3T position is where the interior pressure must come from. Both our young prospects haven't shown much of consistency at the position thus far. Will the team add another young player to the mix? Will they add a veteran in free agency? Will they bring in another Tyrone Crawford type who can play both DE/DT? All good questions, but I think they cannot go into next season hoping either Gallimore or Hill breaks out, they need to add more talent to the position.

 

[Cowboyny]

McNeil, Nixon, Tufele then all the rest

I would like to draft one of those hybrids like a Nixon/Tufele to add juice to the DL, along with a 2 down NT. McNeil is my favorite prospect at the position.

 

[Mr_437]

Clearly the team needs major help at the DT position, along with Quinn's scheme calling for more of a 4T at LE, which is similar to playing a third DT.

Let's try to rank them based on the Cowboys specifically:

1) Barmore (hybrid can play 1, 3 or 4-best skillset as an interior rusher)
2) Onwuzurike (was dominate in 1 day of practice, might be the best pure 3 in the class)
3) Nixon (had a huge breakout season, is a 3T only prospect)
4) Tufele (another hybrid, did play some 4T at USC, but can play any spot)
5) McNeil (played 0T/NT and offers some pass rush abilities)
6) Wilson (might be too high, but was once considered a top 20 prospect)
7) Togai (can play the 1 or 4T roles, more of a 2 down player)
8) Shelvin (your prototype NT, who cannot be moved, but offers zero pass rush)
9) Tuipulotu (hybrid, potential 3 down player)
10) Slaton (see Shelvin)

Just missed the cut: Odighizuwa, Tonga

How would you rank them and who do you want?

The rankings are cool. I think Barmore is #1 but I don't like him best for DAL if that makes sense.
Favorite:
NT-McNeil
3T-Onwuzurike
4T-Barmore

Tufele is a player I like, he really moves well. I like the idea of Tufele as 4T and 3T.

 

[Malhavoc]

Give me Nixon it Barmore early

then McNeil or Togiai or Shelvin later
My own preference at 1T would be to sign Dalvin Tomlinson in FA to fix the position

Tomlinson would be the big prize in FA IMO. And we can certainly do it when you consider the players that we can release in 2022 to free up cap space. Absent this kind of move in FA, McNeil would be my guy.

 

[Cowboyny]

I think Gallimore is going to turn into a solid starter...but I think he's a better pass rush type than run defender. We really, really need someone that can anchor and impact the run game as we've been ignoring that type for years.

Couldn't agree more. That is the priority, then figure out what to do about the 3, especially in the base defense to stop the run. Your right Gallimore is more of a nickel rusher then he is stopping the run at this point.

 

[Cowboyny]

After the 4th. Yes. Anything else is too high for a 2 down player

In Dane's top 100, the majority of those two down players are listed the earliest as mid 3rd rd prospects.

 

[Cowboyny]

The rankings are cool. I think Barmore is #1 but I don't like him best for DAL if that makes sense.
Favorite:
NT-McNeil
3T-Onwuzurike
4T-Barmore

Tufele is a player I like, he really moves well. I like the idea of Tufele as 4T and 3T.

Agree with the fits. I see Tufele rated all across the board from as high as a 2nd rd prospect to an early day 3 one. Like the player as well as the other 3 mentioned.

 

[Cowboyny]

Give me Nixon it Barmore early

then McNeil or Togiai or Shelvin later
My own preference at 1T would be to sign Dalvin Tomlinson in FA to fix the position

Like the idea of signing Tomlinson, but it's not happening. Here in NY, both the GM and HC love the player. He isn't going anywhere, especially not to a divisional rival.

I'm greedy want a quality veteran 1T and a prospect drafted for the position. Question is will they double dip in the draft?

 

[Cowboyny]

What we know about the Cowboys front office over the years:

-They won't draft a high DT who is just a two down player. That could change, but need to see it to believe it. Players like Barmore, Onwuzurike, Nixon, Tufele all fit that criteria.

-Probably won't consider a DT1 until day 3, unless Quinn communicates how important the position is in his scheme.

 

[visionary]

Like the idea of signing Tomlinson, but it's not happening. Here in NY, both the GM and HC love the player. He isn't going anywhere, especially not to a divisional rival.

I'm greedy want a quality veteran 1T and a prospect drafted for the position. Question is will they double dip in the draft?

no matter how much they like him they will need to pay through the nose for Williams and there is no way they are paying top dollar for 2 DTs