Make a good O better or a poor D average?

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I think the O will be better, just because the OL’s healthier, and we’ll have Dak and Jarwin back. The D should be better because of Quinn, and his familiarity with the veteran depth added in the secondary. If they add a couple more quality pieces through FA and the draft, even more so.

Each improvement on D will in turn help the O, and vice versa. Of course, I’m an optimist (half way between Risen and Rockport, I guess), with a little PJG stirred in....

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Let's say the offense averages 27 to 28 points. Will getting another offensive weapon raise that to 35 points, I think not.

The defense gives up 27 to 28 points. But drafting for the defense can improve that to 21 points.

You can improve the team more by making the defense better. There is more opportunity on that side of the ball.

You need to draft defense. If the OL and Prescott can be healthy Dallas will have enough offense.

I think there is a discussion to be had here on how the cap is impacted by Gallup and what the future is for Smitty. Both of those Offensive situations could impact the draft. If either Penei or Pitts are there, I could see the team pulling the trigger. I'm not a fan of taking Pitts because I value a more complete TE but that doesn't mean anything. The team could place more value on him. Penei is a no brainer. You win with line play on both sides of the ball. That's where you invest if you want to be good in the NFL IMO.
 

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At this point, I honestly think making a poor D average would help.

An average defense could give our already good offense the ball more, giving them more opportunities to score.

Look no further than last year. The Cowboys were scoring just fine, but they were losing because they couldn’t stop anything or anybody. That must change.
 

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We all know the owner is a follow the ball GM and I certainly can't blame him, I think every owner would be that type of GM. That sells tickets and makes happy fans.

The question is how to use that 1st pick. Make what's good better or what's poor average?

My first inclination is if not now, when? When do they start to fix this defense? Used a 1st on a WR last draft, going to do that again with an OL or TE or even wackier, a WR? They could trade Gallup and use that 10 pick on Waddle or Smith. Do not put that past this WR loving GM.

But that's not the point. Can they accomplish more this season making that offense more potent than bringing that defense up to average? This offense has the signs of being one that can average 30 ppg and all they need to do is keep 10 of their opponents under that to win the East. I do think 10 wins takes it.

So, where I've been all about fixing this D and getting started on that asap, I question whether that is the right approach for this season. And this season is all I am talking about here, not the future, 2021.

This team will ride the offense as far as it can take them so are they better off to make it better and deeper?

I do not think Pitts or Sewell will be there but Slater, Waddle and Smith might be.

Is this a case of a repeat of the 1st in 2020? At 10, there really isn't a D player but there is at least one O player worthy of that pick?

Surtain is the only D player I've seen continually break the top 10 at 10. I think that is because of the perceived need of Dallas for a D player more than where he truly falls on most boards. Are Waddle and Smith better WR's than he is a CB? Slater a better OL than he is a CB?
The offense isn’t good. It’s excellent.
 

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So you can't get an offensive player that gets you a touchdown, but you can do the exact same thing on the defensive side of the ball?

What kind of skewed logic is that?
You're the one w/ the messed up logic, dude. No matter what facts we introduce to you, you refuse to even try to understand D. You really don't understand football.
 

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With pick #10 if a true Blue chip player is there you take him no matter the position. There are only 5 or 6 true Blue chip players in this draft. After that they are mostly good 1st round players. Take the one that fits best. If an over valued QB is still there trade back and still pick the best fit of the first round players. Also trench players are the bedrock of your team and that is where you focus first. I value OL/DL over CB, take the best there. Use the rest of the draft to fill in your other needs. If you are stout in the trenches then you can work with less talent on the edges. JMO
 

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I don't think Pitts or Surtain will be there. I'd love a trade down, but unless a QB falls, who'd be there for a trade-down opportunity?
Best trade prospect at 10 is Slater. When a team needs a LT, they need a LT. And I don't think we need much of a premium to trade out.

I don't see people moving up for Horn or Parsons.
 

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Let's say the offense averages 27 to 28 points. Will getting another offensive weapon raise that to 35 points, I think not.

The defense gives up 27 to 28 points. But drafting for the defense can improve that to 21 points.

You can improve the team more by making the defense better. There is more opportunity on that side of the ball.

You need to draft defense. If the OL and Prescott can be healthy Dallas will have enough offense.
I would love to see the metric,, jk,, hear you loud and clear, this draft cant get here fast enough.
Both sides need to be addressed, and both will, its a long draft.
Just dont reach when you dont have to.
 

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We all know the owner is a follow the ball GM and I certainly can't blame him, I think every owner would be that type of GM. That sells tickets and makes happy fans.

The question is how to use that 1st pick. Make what's good better or what's poor average?

My first inclination is if not now, when? When do they start to fix this defense? Used a 1st on a WR last draft, going to do that again with an OL or TE or even wackier, a WR? They could trade Gallup and use that 10 pick on Waddle or Smith. Do not put that past this WR loving GM.

But that's not the point. Can they accomplish more this season making that offense more potent than bringing that defense up to average? This offense has the signs of being one that can average 30 ppg and all they need to do is keep 10 of their opponents under that to win the East. I do think 10 wins takes it.

So, where I've been all about fixing this D and getting started on that asap, I question whether that is the right approach for this season. And this season is all I am talking about here, not the future, 2021.

This team will ride the offense as far as it can take them so are they better off to make it better and deeper?

I do not think Pitts or Sewell will be there but Slater, Waddle and Smith might be.

Is this a case of a repeat of the 1st in 2020? At 10, there really isn't a D player but there is at least one O player worthy of that pick?

Surtain is the only D player I've seen continually break the top 10 at 10. I think that is because of the perceived need of Dallas for a D player more than where he truly falls on most boards. Are Waddle and Smith better WR's than he is a CB? Slater a better OL than he is a CB?
Poor defense needs to be fixed. I feel strongly about that.
 

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With pick #10 if a true Blue chip player is there you take him no matter the position. There are only 5 or 6 true Blue chip players in this draft. After that they are mostly good 1st round players. Take the one that fits best. If an over valued QB is still there trade back and still pick the best fit of the first round players. Also trench players are the bedrock of your team and that is where you focus first. I value OL/DL over CB, take the best there. Use the rest of the draft to fill in your other needs. If you are stout in the trenches then you can work with less talent on the edges. JMO
I would say less, probably more like 1 or 2, but that doesnt mean this isnt a solid draft class,, this is a deep class, deeper than most have any clue how to evaluate properly.
 

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Best trade prospect at 10 is Slater. When a team needs a LT, they need a LT. And I don't think we need much of a premium to trade out.

I don't see people moving up for Horn or Parsons.
They will move up for Mac if he is still there,, philly wouldnt trade again to move up, but they are hoping that one of the receivers drops to them, why they took the trade back with Miami.
I hope even Waddle is off the board when philly picks.
 

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Let's say the offense averages 27 to 28 points. Will getting another offensive weapon raise that to 35 points, I think not.

The defense gives up 27 to 28 points. But drafting for the defense can improve that to 21 points.

You can improve the team more by making the defense better. There is more opportunity on that side of the ball.

You need to draft defense. If the OL and Prescott can be healthy Dallas will have enough offense.

The only offensive player that may give a massive improvement is Pitts as his height and athleticism would overcome some of Dak's weaknesses in accuracy in the Red Zone. I suppose it will be like floating a ball in the air to Gronk knowing he's head and shoulders taller than the cover.

.....and I dont know why we continue to mention him as he wont be there at 10th pick.
 
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