MM was very good today

[AsthmaField]

Some of the biggest things that I look for to see if a team is well coached or not are showing that Dallas is a well coached team.

They are one of the better teams in limiting penalties.
They aren’t turning the ball over. They’re leading the league in turnover ratio.
They aren’t making many mistakes in their responsibilities and are playing relatively mistake free.
Both sides of the ball are playing well in the clutch.
They get better as the game goes along and look better as the season gets older.
They look better conditioned than the other team. Dallas clearly has been putting in the work.
They look more physical and fast than the other team.

All of these things historically show up on well coached teams. I don’t know if it is McCarthy or who it is… but very clearly someone is doing a very good job coaching the ownoys.

Having said that, there have been clock mistakes made and a couple of questionable decisions accepting (or declining) penalties that need to be cleaned up. The good news is that it can easily be rectified going forward.

The vast majority of what I want to see in a well coached team is there.

 

[Tabascocat]

McCarthy was spot on with those moves...I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise. The 2-pt conversions were a no-brainer to go for it on each of those instances. The 4th and 1 challenge was just a clever way to use a timeout.

The only bad move was declining the penalty in the 1st half to make it 3rd and 12 instead of taking the penalty and making it 2nd and 22. I understand the thinking that it's still 3rd and long but 3rd and 12 is nothing for NFL teams to convert these days. Push them back, see if you can force an even longer 3rd down.

This is where I sit, the call that irked me was declining the penalty. He was much better today than the previous weeks.

All I know is that Garrett would not have this team at 3-1 after these opponents. I trust in MM until I don’t

 

[TheDuke]

You can't convince many of the couch coaches here that a professional coach in the NFL knows more than they do. MM would make 99.9% of posters here - including me - look stupid in a serious, in-person conversation about coaching football.

100% accurate

 

[CarolinaFathead]

Funny but if we just hit one of those extra points - we up by 9 and wouldn't have to sweat out that last drive...

You do realize that going for two is more efficient right? On average, 2 point conversions are with .96 - .97 points and an extra point is, on average, worth .94 points.

you understand this, right?

 

[Bizwah]

he was hurt.

It wasn't just Diggs. Osa and Gregory both sat. Were they hurt too?

 

[JBond]

Sitting starters on defense and letting the other team make it close was horrible.

Sitting a second year guy that is playing at an all-pro level because of a back problem is horrible? Especially with the lead we had? Not picking on you, but I keep hearing these knee jerk reactions based on the in-game tv reporters reports. People would be furious if we lost him for 6-8 games due to additional injury when the game was already decided. Getting some looks and experience for his backup is a good thing. It's nice to have a real coaching staff.

 

[JBond]

It wasn't just Diggs. Osa and Gregory both sat. Were they hurt too?

Playing the backups keeps them football ready. The game was over. It will take some time for people to adjust to this idea. No offense intended.

 

[nyc-cowboy]

You do realize that going for two is more efficient right? On average, 2 point conversions are with .96 - .97 points and an extra point is, on average, worth .94 points.

you understand this, right?

Yeah and 9 points make it a 2 score game.

 

[tyke1doe]

Oh so no one argues my points, they just say "Diggs". Thats not MM's call. That is the defensive coordinators call. You guys need to learn more about this game.

Not the ole "You guys need to learn more about this game" line.

The only reason why those plays are being cited is because we won.

First, you DO NOT chase points that early. We should have kicked the extra point. We didn't and we didn't convert.
That put us behind at half-time. Fortunately, we had a monster third quarter, thus making the extra point irrelevant. But, ordinarily speaking, you kick the extra point in that case.

Second, the other 2 point conversion try was unnecessary because if you don't make it, you, again, are in the position of chasing points. You only go for two when you need the two to tie the game. That's what the Panthers were thinking at 36-21. They would have had to go for two if they had closed the gap at 36-28. Then the next score makes it 36-34. If they go for it before then and fail to convert, it's a three score game instead of a two score game.

Third, as for the 4 and 1, the Panthers DIDN'T jump off side. So whatever brilliance was supposed to be connected to that decision didn't materialize. The effort didn't really matter.

Sorry, but I don't see any flashes of brilliance. But if you're trying to defend Mike McCarthy and make him relevant, I guess you'll take anything you can get.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Funny but if we just hit one of those extra points - we up by 9 and wouldn't have to sweat out that last drive...

MM is an idiot. Plain and simple. Its like he has never played the game before.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You can't convince many of the couch coaches here that a professional coach in the NFL knows more than they do. MM would make 99.9% of posters here - including me - look stupid in a serious, in-person conversation about coaching football.

You say that, but the idiot cant even get the clock management right. Any fool can see he is bumbling it.

 

[windjc]

You say that, but the idiot cant even get the clock management right. Any fool can see he is bumbling it.

This thread really was just an IQ test. 110 and below and you make posts like this.

 

[windjc]

Not the ole "You guys need to learn more about this game" line.

The only reason why those plays are being cited is because we won.

First, you DO NOT chase points that early. We should have kicked the extra point. We didn't and we didn't convert.
That put us behind at half-time. Fortunately, we had a monster third quarter, thus making the extra point irrelevant. But, ordinarily speaking, you kick the extra point in that case.

Second, the other 2 point conversion try was unnecessary because if you don't make it, you, again, are in the position of chasing points. You only go for two when you need the two to tie the game. That's what the Panthers were thinking at 36-21. They would have had to go for two if they had closed the gap at 36-28. Then the next score makes it 36-34. If they go for it before then and fail to convert, it's a three score game instead of a two score game.

Third, as for the 4 and 1, the Panthers DIDN'T jump off side. So whatever brilliance was supposed to be connected to that decision didn't materialize. The effort didn't really matter.

Sorry, but I don't see any flashes of brilliance. But if you're trying to defend Mike McCarthy and make him relevant, I guess you'll take anything you can get.

Nah, you play to win. We won.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Not the ole "You guys need to learn more about this game" line.

The only reason why those plays are being cited is because we won.

First, you DO NOT chase points that early. We should have kicked the extra point. We didn't and we didn't convert.
That put us behind at half-time. Fortunately, we had a monster third quarter, thus making the extra point irrelevant. But, ordinarily speaking, you kick the extra point in that case.

Second, the other 2 point conversion try was unnecessary because if you don't make it, you, again, are in the position of chasing points. You only go for two when you need the two to tie the game. That's what the Panthers were thinking at 36-21. They would have had to go for two if they had closed the gap at 36-28. Then the next score makes it 36-34. If they go for it before then and fail to convert, it's a three score game instead of a two score game.

Third, as for the 4 and 1, the Panthers DIDN'T jump off side. So whatever brilliance was supposed to be connected to that decision didn't materialize. The effort didn't really matter.

Sorry, but I don't see any flashes of brilliance. But if you're trying to defend Mike McCarthy and make him relevant, I guess you'll take anything you can get.

And then how about the penalty on the Panthers offense down close to their GL that he decided to decline? Would have backed them up and to about the 5.

MM cant get out of his own way.

 

[CarolinaFathead]

Not the ole "You guys need to learn more about this game" line.

The only reason why those plays are being cited is because we won.

First, you DO NOT chase points that early. We should have kicked the extra point. We didn't and we didn't convert.
That put us behind at half-time. Fortunately, we had a monster third quarter, thus making the extra point irrelevant. But, ordinarily speaking, you kick the extra point in that case.

Second, the other 2 point conversion try was unnecessary because if you don't make it, you, again, are in the position of chasing points. You only go for two when you need the two to tie the game. That's what the Panthers were thinking at 36-21. They would have had to go for two if they had closed the gap at 36-28. Then the next score makes it 36-34. If they go for it before then and fail to convert, it's a three score game instead of a two score game.

Third, as for the 4 and 1, the Panthers DIDN'T jump off side. So whatever brilliance didn't materialize. The effort didn't really matter.

Sorry, but I don't see any flash of brilliance. But if you're trying to defend Mike McCarthy and make him relevant, I guess you'll take anything you can get.

Lol it’s not chasing points. It’s more efficient to go for two. .96 points (2 point conversion) versus .94 points (extra point). You guys REALLY have to get a grasp on the math behind these moves.

Carolina SHOULD have went for two as early as they possibly could so they would know what they needed if they were able to claw their way back in the game as it came down to the wire. This is the same damn thing MM did against ATL last year and it was the right thing to do.

It’s all about the math.

 

[CowboyRoy]

This thread really was just an IQ test. 110 and below and you make posts like this.

LOL...........proclaiming that MM had a brilliant day wasnt an IQ test, it was just plain dumb.

People are basically laughing in you face on here.

 

[Maxmadden]

MM wouldnt be the one to make that decision. The DC would. Just sayin.

Just like against SD it isn't MM 's job to get the Offense up there and do there job. If you are running a running play and even if you aren't. It is the OC job to get a second play called which should have already been called beforehand by the OC.

 

[CowboyRoy]

McCarthy was spot on with those moves...I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise. The 2-pt conversions were a no-brainer to go for it on each of those instances. The 4th and 1 challenge was just a clever way to use a timeout.

The only bad move was declining the penalty in the 1st half to make it 3rd and 12 instead of taking the penalty and making it 2nd and 22. I understand the thinking that it's still 3rd and long but 3rd and 12 is nothing for NFL teams to convert these days. Push them back, see if you can force an even longer 3rd down.

Yes, declining the penalty was dumb. Going for 2 was laughable.

 

[windjc]

LOL...........proclaiming that MM had a brilliant day wasnt an IQ test, it was just plain dumb.

People are basically laughing in you face on here.

Nope, I know it might be hard for you to count, but most people in this thread agree with me. Like I said, things are more difficult on the lower end of the bell curve.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Nope, I know it might be hard for you to count, but most people in this thread agree with me. Like I said, things are more difficult on the lower end of the bell curve.

MM was brilliant today.

He was about as brilliant as you and this thread are.